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Post Post #825 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:13 pm

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And thats why youre silly.
I literally cant make my position any clearer.

Our best option is to kill the VTs. Do you have a retort to my point that the NK of N1 makes no sense without me?
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Post Post #826 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:15 pm

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Or do you somehow think it was all an elaborate hoax perpetrated by my masterful planning?

Because if thats what you think, I should introduce you to my good groupies Salamance and RC.
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Post Post #827 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:20 pm

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What was that stuff about N1 NK again? I'm getting a bit lost here.
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Post Post #828 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:21 pm

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The Night 1 Night Kill (NK) is missing. I am literally the only role that could have accounted for that, with the exception of the scum roleblocker. And Im positive he didnt roleblock his buddy.
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Post Post #829 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:21 pm

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I docced Expi, because he said he would shoot himself.
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Post Post #830 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:26 pm

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So. We're getting the rest of those flavor claims, and then we're making a plan on if Im actng tonight and who gets roped.
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Post Post #831 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:51 pm

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Fire, pisskop almost certainly isn't scum.
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Post Post #832 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:51 pm

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See, my problem is the stuff you say about Expedience doesn't actually
have
to be true. I mean, scum could've abstained from using NK N1, right? I know it's unlikely. But it could've happened for whatever reason.

I've ISOd Expedience to see if he crumbed in any way your role. Unfortunately, I haven't found much.

He did say that:

In post 312, Expedience wrote:
In post 294, Makoto Nanaya wrote:So first things first, gameplay is probably town. If I had to guess, the scum are trying to force us into a second D1 with that No kill.

I don't really see this as likely, how would the scum benefit from "a second D1", wouldn't D2 with one less town member be inherently better? I guess that could happen at MyLo or something, but nobody has died yet.
I think that they attacked someone.


That would indicate he knew about the night target.

Expedience almost didn't interact with you at all, apart from this:


In post 428, Expedience wrote:
In post 427, pisskop wrote:We arent doing this. Fire, claim and/or die.

He said in code that he is unlynchable, but that his role PM doesn't necessarily say if the unlynchableness is one-shot or not.

He said that he tracked Klingoncelt last night but she went nowhere.

Do you believe his claim?


He may have asked you cause he trusted you.

He did slightly townread you, despite the lack of interaction, which favors your story:

In post 466, Expedience wrote:I can try to sort them in order if you want but it won't be that informative.

Town

Expedience
The Silver Bard
A Royal Saint
pisskop

Firebringer (replaces gameplay506)
Klingoncelt
Ranger
The_Jester
Makoto Nanaya
Scorpious
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davesaz
Davsto

Scum

Makoto / Scorpious would be a nullish kind of area below which slight townreads become slight scumreads.

I actually have a lot of townreads, but I think that's good because there are only 2 scum in this setup.


But he's also townread you before your alleged PT conversation happened:

In post 127, Expedience wrote:
In post 123, davesaz wrote:It's a playstyle thing. Some people are confrontational, others use a more oblique approach. The trick is reading how people respond.
Lots of game links available on my wiki page, feel free to compare.

Well, I read some of your ISO in this one in which you were town. And surprisingly meta actually seems to be vaguely useful for once and I see your point. Like, I probably would've called you scum for the same reasons if I was in that game but you flipped town.

Looking at you as scum here, you actually seem more aggressive which is the opposite of what I would expect.

I am still not convinced that this makes you town, becuase meta can be changed, and you kind of ignored the other aspect of my accusation: the shallow pseudo-scumhunting. I'm not sure how to pursue this further, but I am not scumreading you much any more. I will retract my vote for now.

UNVOTE: davesaz

At the moment I am seeing Ranger, The Silver Bard and pisskop as town.


Maybe we should just lynch gameplay or Davsto or something, most of the active people actually seem pretty town to me. Davsto is not doing much and he just voted for someone who I am pretty certain is town.



So it may seem like he was intentionally ignoring you not to bring the attention on you. But at the same time he could've just assumed you're town early on and focus on other people.

Apart from you, no one else claimed having been in a PT with him though, and he surely must've used his power so that's a plus for you.

Still, it's not 100% conclusive to me. Sigh.
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Post Post #833 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:53 pm

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I dont have any fapterbation gifs on hand, but try to imagine what one might look like.
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Post Post #834 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 8:54 pm

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Scum is almost certainly in Fire/TSB. TBH Id rather doc the scum tonight but Ill settle for a lynch.
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Post Post #835 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:00 pm

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Okay then.

VOTE: TSB
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Post Post #836 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:56 pm

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Klingoncelt actually fucked up big time. But with her gone my plan is no longer needed.

I did claim VT, but I am not, I am actually a doc and it was me who saved Expedience night one. The reason why I didn't claim doc at first was that I wanted one chance to save either Davsto or Firebringer next night if my plan didn't come true.

I have been suspicious of pisskop since he claimed, since it doesn't make sense with two docs in this game. If pisskop was CPR doctor I would have expected someone to die night 1-3. But with the chance of Klingon and The_Jester being scum I needed him alive for my plan to work, and for us to win this without a theoretical chance for scum. Now that Klingon is dead scum is either pisskop or The_Jester.

I think pisskop is the scum and this is why:
- He claims doc and I am doc. It is unlikely that there is 2 docs in this game.
- The_Jester got a guilty on him.
- He was in the neighborhood with Expedience the night I saved Expedience. It would make sense for scum to try to kill the neighborizor if they knew who he was.
- There have been no traces of his nightactions, he blames this on being roleblocked.

So pisskop dies today.

VOTE: pisskop


My actions was like this:
- Night 1: Heal Expedience.
- Night 2: Heal ARS (got roleblocked).
- Night 3: Heal Firebringer.
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Post Post #837 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 9:58 pm

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Official Vote Count


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(2): pisskop, Davsto

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Post Post #838 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:06 pm

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Fuuuuck.
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Post Post #839 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:07 pm

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Good. TSB can die.
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Post Post #840 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:07 pm

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vote: TSB
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Post Post #841 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:08 pm

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Look at it this way jester.

I can confirm my role tonight. shitmonkey mcsuddenly a pr cant.
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Post Post #842 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:12 pm

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In post 841, pisskop wrote:Look at it this way jester.

I can confirm my role tonight. shitmonkey mcsuddenly a pr cant.


A) If your claim is true and you do a nk tonight and miss scum wins.
B) If you are scum you just NK someone and claim that you held your shot not for A to happend.

Either that or you got some trick up your sleeve that will just end the game if you get a mislynch now that we are down to 5 players.
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Post Post #843 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:13 pm

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We could no lynch. I can confirm my role that way too.

You, on the other hand, are climing to be roleblocked.
the same way I was?


how do you know you were roleblocked?
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Post Post #844 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:14 pm

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Im not engaging you retard.
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Post Post #845 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:14 pm

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Go back to lurkering. We beat you.
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Post Post #846 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:16 pm

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VOTE: pisskop

I'm taking the blame if I'm wrong.
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Post Post #847 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:16 pm

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Good. You silly newb.
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Post Post #848 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:16 pm

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What part of I HAVE A FUCKING POST RESTRICTION was just not raising red flags?
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Post Post #849 (ISO) » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:27 pm

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That quickhammer.

Either this is game and we have won.

If not I fear that The_Jester might be the remaining scum and have some nightability that straight up wins the game.
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