I'll pick up where I left yesterday:
In post 30, Expedience wrote: In post 28, The Silver Bard wrote:Having someone vote me for wanting to stop the random votes is probably the most desirable result I can get from stating it. As it gets the discussion going between me and the player who votes me.
If that was the most desirable result, was it really a good action to take?
You have a reason for voting me, and I can question your reasons, and start making my mind up about you.
So I ask you again. Do you find it scummy that I don't want to random vote? And that I want to end the random vote stage?
That question is slanted in a way that makes it difficult for me to answer. Instead I'll answer the question "Do you find
14 scummy?".
I find
14 scummy, in part but not entirely because you don't want to end the random vote stage. The fact that you are discouraging RVS is to some extent anti-town, but I can conceivably see why you wouldn't want to do it in the Blitz setup.
As I said in
19, it also had to do with the fact that your post seemed some kind of attempt to guide the conversation in a certain direction by making a "hypocritical mediator type" comment. It could be used by scum to establish themselves as some kind of leader without them actually doing what they ask others to do.
The tone of your post was rather antagonistic as well which encouraged me to vote for you, although I don't think this is scummy.
If that was the most desirable result, was it really a good action to take?
In my opinion it is, as it gets the discussion rolling. Having a wagon on myself isn't bad unless I actually get lynched, and even then it can be helpfull to town as you can analyse those on my wagon.
I find 14 scummy, in part but not entirely because you don't want to end the random vote stage. The fact that you are discouraging RVS is to some extent anti-town, but I can conceivably see why you wouldn't want to do it in the Blitz setup.
So if I understand you correctly your opinion is that the RVS stage is pro-town? If so I can understand why you would think someone wanting to end it is anti-town. But in my opinion the RVS is completely useless, it gives zero information at all, as everyone can pick their target randomly, and because no one will get lynched because of a RVS wagon. Some will say that some players are more inclined to not vote their scumpartner in RVS, but that is just WIFOM.
A random lynch on the other hand is something completely different. This can provide a lot of information. As long as the player targeted is truly random and it can be proved, and the target is provided at the same time as the random lynch is proposed.
As I said in 19, it also had to do with the fact that your post seemed some kind of attempt to guide the conversation in a certain direction by making a "hypocritical mediator type" comment. It could be used by scum to establish themselves as some kind of leader without them actually doing what they ask others to do.
Am I not doing what I ask others to do? Am I RVS'ing? Am I not trying to discuss? What is it that I am not doing that I am asking others to do?
