In post 948, lilith2013 wrote:Yes, and I'm not totally sure if I think both of you are scum. I'm waiting to hear more from jester, because I don't want to rule him out yet.
Okay, want to go into why you think I am scum at all?
Cause so far multiple people have said I am scum, yet no reasons given. Its really annoying.
In post 926, lilith2013 wrote:Okay MOHIS, explain why you are voting NM if you don't think he claimed doctor.
The most recent thing:
One head went and voted NM thinking it was a hammer but your other head kept defending him, saying that he never claimed doctor. The only two people who didn't immediately place NM as confscum for CCing were Snarky and you. So I think one of you two is Fire with NM.
All of the following is assuming that MOHIS is about 15% fire mafia, snarky is 85% fire mafia and Jester is 100% ice mafia. They are in order of preference.
1) If we lynch me or lilith, Jester will know for certain that he will be NKed. If he decides that fire mafia should win or tries to have town win and picks wrong fire mafia fire mafia wins, so my original post was wrong.
2) If we lynch MOHIS, we get a game theory win. If he flips town both mafia should try to kill each other and we win, and if he flips fire then we lynch jester the next day. The problem with this is that if he flips town, for each mafia, their kill picks which team loses and they have no chance of winning. I think there is a fair chance of one of them picking the other mafia over town, and in the end I think that given that we have better options we shouldn't trust the game to the mafia players.
3).If we lynch Snarky we get the same thing but with better odds
4).If we lynch Jester, then we get a standard lylo situation between Snarky, MOHIS and 1 of me or lilith. There is no chance of mafia sabotaging this.
5).If we lynch no one, then we get the same situation as killing town but with more of a buffer. Jester will always be killed by fire mafia, if he chooses me or lilith we get put in the lylo situation, if he chooses MOHIS or snarky town always wins.
There is 1 feature that you can argue 4 is better than 5. If you relax assuming that lilith or me can't be ice mafia, then killing jester and having him flip town will put us in the 2v2 which is still a game theory win for town. Every other 1 of these theories we will lose if ice mafia is outside of Jester, so this is a good contingency.
So I will support only a jester or no lynch today.
I wanted to correct myself because I realized that what I had suggested was the worst possible move for town. You didn't even consider game theory before you voted, and you still haven't explained that vote.
Sorry, finals week hitting me hard. I'm inclined to think itle is town, and you haven't left so great of an impression on me Snarky. Where did MOHIS go? I'd like a response to my last post.
In post 65, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Okay, this is the town head speaking.
random seems town.
Jester is town
Diego I'm thinking town.
Not too much for the first 3 pages going on apart from people being petty.
@itlepip - Talk to me about DiamondSentinel. You think that this is scummy?
I wouldn't consider that self meta. It's just someone ducking the RVS stage (null tell).
I don't get the point of his reaction test, nor why he picked itle in particular.
Random's entry post also confuses me.
He placed a vote and gave what looked like a reason for the vote in the same post. I wanted to know if the reason was sarcasm, and therefore RSV, or an actual reason that I was going to analyze.
In post 25, Diego1487 wrote:He placed a vote and gave what looked like a reason for the vote in the same post. I wanted to know if the reason was sarcasm, and therefore RSV, or an actual reason that I was going to analyze.
It was literally the 3rd post of the game. Did you really expect him to have a serious reason?
No that was why I would have had an issue with it had he said it was serious.
VOTE: Diego1487
to easy
apricity safing lillith2013 yes no what
notmafia use asalt to diego1487
Fire has no way of scumreading me. If the hydra were voting me seriously this early, it would probably come from Vedith because I have played with him before. Also, from what I know, Fire and Vedith have similar playstyles (e.g, unserious/trolling). Therefore, I doubt Fire's vote on me was serious or had any reasonable basis. --> trolling
It had nothing to do with him not sharing reasons.
fear yes
In post 94, lilith2013 wrote:
In my view, trolling = not serious. Not necessarily a bad thing. I do think you both are not always serious and use a lot of sarcasm, which is trolling to me. In terms of being able to scumread me, I seriously doubt Fire would be able to say right off the bat, while I was obviously RVSing, whether I was scum. Because we haven't played together before.
fear
In post 102, lilith2013 wrote:I believe I've read through one or two of his games, which gave me a general idea of how he behaves and his posting style. As I only have one finished game onsite, I doubt anyone would know enough about me to know my playstyle.
What kind of play would lead you to form a legitimate reason to vote someone you'd never played with before?
fire has no way of scumreading me
in terms of being able to scumread me i seriously doubt fire would be able to say right off the bat whether i was scum
dont think ive played with fire before
because we haven't played together before
what play lead you form legitimate reason vote someone you never played with before
ever played before
repeat you fear yes
Koggz I love how you are going about this, but understand that I can't understand at all what you are saying, so at some point make sure to formally ask questions and make reads so we can interact with you.
In post 81, Sharky5x wrote:diego may have possibly just done something stupid rather than scumslipped or anything, would like to move on from it. so many people jumped on him its kinda odd
In post 65, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:Okay, this is the town head speaking.
random seems town.
Jester is town
Diego I'm thinking town.
Not too much for the first 3 pages going on apart from people being petty.
@itlepip - Talk to me about DiamondSentinel. You think that this is scummy?
I wouldn't consider that self meta. It's just someone ducking the RVS stage (null tell).
-Vedith
town 3 yes
safing town of diamondsentinel yes no
town 3.5
In post 86, My Other Head Is Scum wrote:78 - Man of many words. This also makes me think Diego is town more. I think that the votes are in the wrong place.
what i see aftor kill you see now yes
town 4
man of many words fire mafia
diego may have possibly just done something stupid rather than scumslipped or anything, would like to move on from it. so many people jumped on him its kinda odd
Why are you apologising? It's normally a sign of scum trying to get town onside for me.
I like the rest of the post though.
In post 84, DiamondSentinel wrote:If someone is at L-1 and gives me a decent reason for voting, then I will vote. Otherwise, I will not be voting anytime soon.
No. UNVOTE: Whoever VOTE: Diamond
Still on page 4. This is going to be a fantastic game.
Jester - Where's the spam?
-Vedith
misguided townie i understand voting him but diamondsentinel town
what diamondsentinel intent talk to say not talk
diamondsentinel make to easy this trap
139 most talk on any
In post 83, The_Jester wrote:Sharky, do you think there's scum on Diego's wagon?
while I think he could equally be a misguided townie as weak scum, I can understand voting him, as the question was not useful in any way and could be contrived as scum wanting to appear like he's scumhunting. I do think scum on his wagon is a possibility, but I'm not going to bank on that just yet
In post 84, DiamondSentinel wrote:If someone is at L-1 and gives me a decent reason for voting, then I will vote. Otherwise, I will not be voting anytime soon.
why?! is the first day so pointless we shouldn't gather any information on it whatsoever?
how bout we put you at l-1 for "no participation"
decent reason enough?
weak weak asalt
you folo My Other Head Is Scum
you want easy asalt you no vote what you intent
this i no like
I checked the one other full game he played on this site. he was active, just took him hella long to vote anyone. I still disagree with his view and I want to see his response to my post
fast you 88 to 91 on 13 minut
you want asalt you want no asalt what intent you
In post 92, duppin wrote:I actually don't like the Diego train. While I didn't agree with what he said, I don't find it scummy at all.
like this
In post 92, duppin wrote:There are a couple of players I'd like to look at actually, but at the moment I am going to keep my vote on Diamond. I don't mind you avoiding RVS, but we aren't in RVS anymore so I'd like to hear from you now. No thoughts on the game?
In post 61, duppin wrote:VOTE: Unvote VOTE: Vote: DiamondSentinel
no no why you here
is for easy you intent or no
Alright, get us out of RVS then.
In post 62, duppin wrote:Erh, apparently I typed vote as well in the previous post. Just to be sure:
In post 25, Diego1487 wrote:He placed a vote and gave what looked like a reason for the vote in the same post. I wanted to know if the reason was sarcasm, and therefore RSV, or an actual reason that I was going to analyze.
It was literally the 3rd post of the game. Did you really expect him to have a serious reason?
No that was why I would have had an issue with it had he said it was serious.
Why? Do you think it would've been a scumtell if he was serious?
is sneaky question
like an not like
is intent analyze or intent asalt
or asalt fore analyze
can sneaky good or sneaky bad
In post 94, lilith2013 wrote:In my view, trolling = not serious. Not necessarily a bad thing. I do think you both are not always serious and use a lot of sarcasm, which is trolling to me. In terms of being able to scumread me, I seriously doubt Fire would be able to say right off the bat, while I was obviously RVSing, whether I was scum. Because we haven't played together before.
Who on Diego's wagon do you think is scum?
As I said, anyone can suspect anyone in a game... I've read 2 or 3 posts of people before and thought that I knew their align. Is it probably wrong? Good chance, but it's still there.
If I haven't played with someone, there's certain things I look out for as a general play to help me decide.
However, what concerns me here with you is this.
In post 72, lilith2013 wrote:Also, from what I know, Fire and Vedith have similar playstyles
In post 94, lilith2013 wrote:I seriously doubt Fire would be able to say right off the bat, while I was obviously RVSing, whether I was scum. Because we haven't played together before.
So you are saying that you can have an opinion on him even though you have never played with him, but his opinion on you would be false?
-Vedith
this on good talk
why is lilith2013 know similar playstyles
lilith2013 can opinion in never played with
my other head is scum not can opinion in never played with
or this false?
yes no yes