***Mini Normal 1744 - Country Music Mafia - Game Over***

acryon · Post Post #2750 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:54 am

In post 2748, Dierfire wrote:I like the sound of "you didn't lose" but I'm afraid of the "you'll see why later" part.

Me too

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2751 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:55 am

I was really town

I was really drunk

and you were really like scum acryon

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2752 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:56 am

In post 2749, bji wrote:I call it a tie personally because the mod error. We were told that RC was cop even though we shouldn't have been told that because of ascetic.

what was your team?

acryon · Post Post #2753 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:56 am

In post 2751, Frozen Angel wrote:I was really town

I was really drunk

and you were really like scum acryon

Eh I probably pushed on you too hard, but honestly, please don't play when you are drunk because that messed up a good bit of stuff for town.

bji · Post Post #2754 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:56 am

In post 2752, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2749, bji wrote:I call it a tie personally because the mod error. We were told that RC was cop even though we shouldn't have been told that because of ascetic.

what was your team?

Dwlee - MM4 - bji

bji · Post Post #2755 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:57 am

And after we were told RC was ascetic cop we told the mod that we thought he made a mistake and he said he'd go check with N to see what to do, and that the game would probably have to end. Then I thought the game was definitely going to end so I thought I'd have fun with RC and claim godfather which was my real role.

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2756 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:58 am

In post 2753, acryon wrote:
In post 2751, Frozen Angel wrote:I was really town

I was really drunk

and you were really like scum acryon

Eh I probably pushed on you too hard, but honestly, please don't play when you are drunk because that messed up a good bit of stuff for town.

I never did after that , and I never would

acryon · Post Post #2757 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:58 am

In post 2754, bji wrote:
In post 2752, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2749, bji wrote:I call it a tie personally because the mod error. We were told that RC was cop even though we shouldn't have been told that because of ascetic.

what was your team?

Dwlee - MM4 - bji

Ugh I should have looked into your unwillingness on bji a little more. But honestly I just made the decision to trust you either way so we were screwed.

bji · Post Post #2758 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:59 am

Also don't feel bad about losing, I don't blame any town for that, not even RC. This game is like super hard to figure out, I think most town wins are luck anyway and most town losses are bad luck.

acryon · Post Post #2759 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:00 am

Yeah, I mean we did get beat a bit by variance this game, but two townies fakeclaiming along with several town lurkers didn't help ><

Frozen Angel · Post Post #2760 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:01 am

In post 2759, acryon wrote:Yeah, I mean we did get beat a bit by variance this game, but two townies fakeclaiming along with several town lurkers didn't help ><

continue blaming me for that.

continue doing that

I don't care about game result

if I knew you were town I would have vote you for this

acryon · Post Post #2761 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:01 am

Oh well always something to learn from. And bji/MM4 especially played this last day really well.

bji · Post Post #2762 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:02 am

I was shitting bricks trying to think of how I was going to explain being in a three way with Acryon and FA at the end, which is where I thought the game was going.

acryon · Post Post #2763 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:02 am

In post 2760, Frozen Angel wrote:
In post 2759, acryon wrote:Yeah, I mean we did get beat a bit by variance this game, but two townies fakeclaiming along with several town lurkers didn't help ><

continue blaming me for that.

continue doing that

I don't care about game result

if I knew you were town I would have vote you for this

I understand you didn't do it on purpose, but fakeclaiming as town in 99.9% of circumstances is still a mistake, and still bad for town. I'm not trying to make you feel bad for something that already happened, but everybody should walk away from this game with a firm reminder to not fakeclaim as town.

acryon · Post Post #2764 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:03 am

In post 2762, bji wrote:I was shitting bricks trying to think of how I was going to explain being in a three way with Acryon and FA at the end, which is where I thought the game was going.

Haha yeah I mean there's always the WIFOM of leaving you alive to make us suspect you, but TBH I probably would have voted you if we got down to the 3 of us. FA was down to my #3 at the end there.

Dierfire · Post Post #2765 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:04 am

I'll say that bji deceived me even before I knew Radiant's result. This was a game that he played well and deserved to win.
Dwlee, do you ever draw Town? I wanted to vote for you but I couldn't shake the feeling that I was biased by our previous games, and then Aquanim's statement that he and Mala would have known if you were Mafia really bothered me on that count. Your decision to shadow Frozen at the end was a good one because it threw me off of MM4.
Speaking of MM4, the reason that I didn't present my case on you was because it was so weak--I was thinking that an inactive player who hadn't replaced out had to be Mafia, but I couldn't find any good evidence to support that.

Well played, everyone!

@Mod (and @Backup Mod)

Thanks for running the game! I enjoyed it.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #2766 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:05 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KvNLFiNWGM

Spoiler:

Seriously though; ITT: why godfather is a bad role.

acryon · Post Post #2767 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:06 am

Yeah still a fun game, because even the frustrating parts do make things really interesting.

bji · Post Post #2768 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:06 am

I thought RC's fake claim was actually OK up until he added BP into it, which RolePlay correctly pointed out was completely bogus. It was a decent gambit to draw scum out. He certainly drew me out, I even claimed my role. I think town quick hammering RC was the really bad part of that. TheCow kinda has to shoulder some of that blame.

pedit: I was going to try to argue that the hints I had been putting in place about how I would vote Acryon over FA in a three way ("Acryon is 1000x more likely than FA") were what kept me alive because FA wanted me alive in three way because those hints would suggest she'd win by getting me to vote Acryon. And then pull a switch and propose voting VA because I figured that Acryon might be more willing to trust me than FA. And I put a kinda dumb bread crumb thing in post 2684 (first letters of first two words of each sentence spell out the message) that I thought I might refer back to as supporting evidence.

acryon · Post Post #2769 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:07 am

In post 2766, MarioManiac4 wrote:
Seriously though; ITT: why godfather is a bad role.

lol well I mean we really got beat bad by our ONE cop check being an inno on the GF.

Dierfire · Post Post #2770 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:07 am

What roles did the Mafia have? I'm curious as to what the balance looks like for a Voyeur there.

MarioManiac4 · Post Post #2771 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:09 am

In post 2769, acryon wrote:
In post 2766, MarioManiac4 wrote:
Seriously though; ITT: why godfather is a bad role.

lol well I mean we really got beat bad by our ONE cop check being an inno on the GF.

Dwlee was encryptor, BJI was godfather, I was rolecop.

bji · Post Post #2772 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:09 am

Also we had scum chat the whole time. Dwlee was encryptor. Helped alot with coordination.

pedit: yeah, your luck could not have been worse. Mario investigated the ascetic cop and we were told he was cop even though we shouldn't have been. Ascetic cop investigated the godfather. Town lynched the doctor and we lucked into a NK of the only other significant town role (Keyser).

bji · Post Post #2773 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:10 am

Well maybe not lucked in. Mario picked the NK and it was a good one.

acryon · Post Post #2774 (ISO) » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:11 am

In post 2772, bji wrote:Also we had scum chat the whole time. Dwlee was encryptor. Helped alot with coordination.

pedit: yeah, your luck could not have been worse. Mario investigated the ascetic cop and we were told he was cop even though we shouldn't have been. Ascetic cop investigated the godfather. Town lynched the doctor and we lucked into a NK of the only other significant town role (Keyser).

lol yeah this was not great for us. Our first mistake was the quickhammer D1 before giving SC a chance to claim.