Blitz 14: Murder on Madness Mountain GAME OVER!

[Rob14]

Soren,

town cop-enabler

, has been killed. Day four begins now, and ends in (expired on 2016-01-02 02:04:00). With four alive

it takes three to lynch

.

Your lying Rob. It said it took 3, not 2.

It takes 3 to LYNCH, not to NO LYNCH.

@Mod - In your ruleset, if there are 4 players alive, how many players does it take to no lynch?

If you plan to vote me on that, wait for the mod's answer. It will confirm what I'm saying.

[Firebringer]

When you have an even number of players, the number of players/2 is enough to no lynch (since if you have 4 players and 2 aren't voting, it's impossible to lynch). I assume that's where you got the "double voter" thing. I am not a double voter. It is no aspect of my role.

I have never heard of this thing.

[Rob14]

Let me find some games with this in the ruleset.

[Firebringer]

Why did you not want to claim that close to deadline?

I didn't want to be targetted so that a doctor would lose their power...

But I guess what you say is true, this whole setup was meant to fuck with us.

[Rob14]

Here's one example (first hit on Google from this site and a string of text related to the rule): http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=58821

[Rob14]

Well, first relevant hit - it's actually like the third or fourth because a lot of players say "no lynch" a lot.

[Firebringer]

I wish I had a gun and could just shoot you both. That would solve this problem.

Ranger, still waiting on a claim.

[Rob14]

The one thing that confuses me is why Ranger was posturing to play "gotcha" with me. I literally guessed and posted the setup in a previous day, in direct response to her. She also knew about and was thinking of the setup at the time, based on her posting.

Like ... if I was scum, I'd have had like half a week over the past day/night phases to think about a safe fakeclaim, as would she. If she were town, what would she expect to find?

Kind of wondering if she planned to counter-claim whatever I claimed? That would also explain the insistence on me going first.

[Firebringer]

I kinda expect she wanted to claim doctor because of my claim almost tbh lol.

[Ranger]

Right, so I'm a nurse. I hinted at this many, many times.
I'm almost positive the second scum is Firebringer. I'm going to lay out the reasons in a moment.

[Rob14]

Guess we just have to wait and find out though.

I finished reading Fire's ISO (well, fast reading, but still reading). The first day was bad, as I pointed out at the time, but I think that's just Fire's meta. There was real scum-hunting beyond that. Like, there's not any one thing I can point to as a "this is 100% town" post, but you were asking good questions, pressuring people where you needed to, etc. So it's a bit stronger than gut now, but still mostly gut.

[Rob14]

Right, so I'm a nurse. I hinted at this many, many times.
I'm almost positive the second scum is Firebringer. I'm going to lay out the reasons in a moment.

Quote the hints please.

And I'm all ears on Fire, but it will take lots of convincing. I'm pretty convinced it's you.

[Firebringer]

Right, so I'm a nurse. I hinted at this many, many times.
I'm almost positive the second scum is Firebringer. I'm going to lay out the reasons in a moment.

LOL

This is hilarious plot twist.

[Ranger]

The one thing that confuses me is why Ranger was posturing to play "gotcha" with me. I literally guessed and posted the setup in a previous day, in direct response to her. She also knew about and was thinking of the setup at the time, based on her posting.

Because if you were scum and claimed nurse, then I'd know it was you.
Nurse is, after all, a likely role in the setup. So it would be reasonable for scum without a fakeclaim (my working assumption being that they don't have one) to claim nurse. If you had, then I would have been wrong on Firebringer, but you didn't. So I'm pretty sure it's Firebringer.

[Firebringer]

Why would someone fake claim Nurse?

[Firebringer]

Besides now, I am thinking you are fake claiming it, because this setup makes no god damn sense

[Rob14]

The one thing that confuses me is why Ranger was posturing to play "gotcha" with me. I literally guessed and posted the setup in a previous day, in direct response to her. She also knew about and was thinking of the setup at the time, based on her posting.

Because if you were scum and claimed nurse, then I'd know it was you.
Nurse is, after all, a likely role in the setup. So it would be reasonable for scum without a fakeclaim (my working assumption being that they don't have one) to claim nurse. If you had, then I would have been wrong on Firebringer, but you didn't. So I'm pretty sure it's Firebringer.

Ok, that does make sense as a double-checking your reads thing.

[Firebringer]

This game sucks, and I want to just lynch Ranger and call it a day.

[Rob14]

I wouldn't vote there right now. At the very least, I'm willing to hear her out.

[Firebringer]

If Ranger was legit Nurse, wouldn't my role make the most sense though? So I don't see why Ranger was leaning on me being scum.

Like I don't get that either. "Doctor Enabler" seems to be like Vanilla Townie and so is "Nurse" with no Doctor.

The games roles are nonsensical and supposed to throw us off, like Rob said.

[Firebringer]

I wouldn't vote there right now. At the very least, I'm willing to hear her out.

I call bs, and I almost want to test it right now.

[Rob14]

Call BS on what?

Nexus is a VT too with these roles. It redirects everything but a kill, but there's nothing but kills.

>.<

[Firebringer]

The only role that actually doesn't "mesh" well with the others is actually Nexus.

We have role enablers, ascetics, all basically VTs.

Nexus doesn't mix well with them.

[Firebringer]

Call BS on what?

Nexus is a VT too with these roles. It redirects everything but a kill, but there's nothing but kills.

>.<

Its a VT, but it doesn't fit into what all the other roles are in this game.

Like we enable cop, and a Deputy.
Those compliment each other, why wouldn't it be Nurse and enabler doc?

[Firebringer]

Then again, Mafia could have a Nurse.