NY 192: Game Shop Mafia (Over)

[pieguyn]

fire needs to announce his JK target first

[AngryPidgeon]

Vote Count 6.3

Golden Robster (3) - JarJarDrinks, Firebringer, pieguyn

Not voting (4): Golden Robster, Political Clout, Errant Parabola, DeathNote

(expired on 2016-02-25 11:59:59)

[Firebringer]

Going to JK Errant Parabola.

[pieguyn]

i feel pretty sure GR is scum here even outside of Fire. i cannot emphasize enough how ass Zulfy's RC interactions were. his posts outside of that were meh at best, and i'm thoroughly meh on GR's posts, so i think he has a fairly above-average chance of being scum via POE regardless.

the only thing even remotely making me think it could be town is Zulfy's replace out

[pieguyn]

EBWOP: k, i'm fine with ending day here

[JarJarDrinks]

the only thing even remotely making me think it could be town is Zulfy's replace out

UNVOTE: for now. This just reminded me about how RC faked a redcheck on Zulf. Want to reread some stuff

[JarJarDrinks]

OK since that all happened AFTER RC countered to get nero killed, I dont think we can read too much into it since RC may have already just assummed he was getting lynched.

I think this post from day 1 makes the Zulfy slot look pretty bad.

Some music to set the mood

Frozen Angel is scum

Frozen Angel has done very little (effective) scumhunting, excusing the scumvibes she's been giving off to her personality and emotional state. Bunch of bullshit.

The one coherent defense in her favor came from her good old buddy RC, aggregated in JJD's post:

Spoiler:

RC, tell me again how this was town frozen.

Yeah, so you've just proven by asking that question that you don't understand her meta at all.

Her AtEs as scum frozen are absolutely terrible and see through and basically ignorable and she avoids pressure by bogging everything down in lengthy arguments and focuses on defending herself hyper logically while spending more time throwing out accusations than doing any sort of analysis.

She's town here, 100%.

FA can't ate this effectively as scum.

That's the end of the discussion, basically.

Try reading the Netherspite mafia in Coney Island where she flipped out exactly like this when I pressured her.

No, the one with Netherspite as the mod.

Textbook FA town.

Well, that's your prerogative.

I'm positive she's town right now though.

I've played more games with FA than anyone else on site and have yet to misread her.

Keep that in mind.

I've also actually been scumpartners with her, so I know how she operates as scum.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64156

Does this look like her scum game at all?

Scum FA is very rigorous and gets really invested into the logical side of things, somewhat similar to my own scum game in that she tries to leave a trail for all the shit she does but she basically doesn't AtE, at all.

As town she's really AtEy and it's hard to follow her cases as a logical sequence. This is absolutely the latter.

She did AtE like once in 37 but it was one of her scummiest lines of the game because of how poorly done it was.

I can't see her pulling off this rage thing effectively as scum at all, not against me who is particularly good at seeing through fake rage. (See: making the AFB scum team forfeit in 167 with my fake cop claim on scum)

Pretty okay meta defense yea?
Here's the thing tho, RC this is where you come in:

I think you're scumFA's buddy.

Now this makes complete and utter sense to me. A scum RC tells a scum FA to ham up her playstyle and he'll just convince town that hey, that's just FA being FA, whaddayagonnado? It's

meta

, man.

The fuck is with people and citing shitty meta defenses for their play?

Good question RC!

FA gets kinda flustered with the heat she's been getting tho, sorta resenting the plan RC has strongarmed on her.

I'm not your blind follower RC.

Complete and utter sense to me.
So my suggestion is to lynch this girl, see how she flips and then lynch RC accordingly.

He's calling RC scum that is defending his scumbuddy FA. But he pushes for a FA lynch. I'm still very much townreading the FA/mollie slot. So I basically feel like this is designed to make RC look good once FA flips.

like this quote in particular:

So my suggestion is to lynch this girl, see how she flips and then lynch RC accordingly

Is just so bad now that we know RC is scum.

VOTE: Robster

[Golden Robster]

OK since that all happened AFTER RC countered to get nero killed, I dont think we can read too much into it since RC may have already just assummed he was getting lynched.

I think this post from day 1 makes the Zulfy slot look pretty bad.

Some music to set the mood

Frozen Angel is scum

Frozen Angel has done very little (effective) scumhunting, excusing the scumvibes she's been giving off to her personality and emotional state. Bunch of bullshit.

The one coherent defense in her favor came from her good old buddy RC, aggregated in JJD's post:

Spoiler:

RC, tell me again how this was town frozen.

Yeah, so you've just proven by asking that question that you don't understand her meta at all.

Her AtEs as scum frozen are absolutely terrible and see through and basically ignorable and she avoids pressure by bogging everything down in lengthy arguments and focuses on defending herself hyper logically while spending more time throwing out accusations than doing any sort of analysis.

She's town here, 100%.

FA can't ate this effectively as scum.

That's the end of the discussion, basically.

Try reading the Netherspite mafia in Coney Island where she flipped out exactly like this when I pressured her.

No, the one with Netherspite as the mod.

Textbook FA town.

Well, that's your prerogative.

I'm positive she's town right now though.

I've played more games with FA than anyone else on site and have yet to misread her.

Keep that in mind.

I've also actually been scumpartners with her, so I know how she operates as scum.

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=64156

Does this look like her scum game at all?

Scum FA is very rigorous and gets really invested into the logical side of things, somewhat similar to my own scum game in that she tries to leave a trail for all the shit she does but she basically doesn't AtE, at all.

As town she's really AtEy and it's hard to follow her cases as a logical sequence. This is absolutely the latter.

She did AtE like once in 37 but it was one of her scummiest lines of the game because of how poorly done it was.

I can't see her pulling off this rage thing effectively as scum at all, not against me who is particularly good at seeing through fake rage. (See: making the AFB scum team forfeit in 167 with my fake cop claim on scum)

Pretty okay meta defense yea?
Here's the thing tho, RC this is where you come in:

I think you're scumFA's buddy.

Now this makes complete and utter sense to me. A scum RC tells a scum FA to ham up her playstyle and he'll just convince town that hey, that's just FA being FA, whaddayagonnado? It's

meta

, man.

The fuck is with people and citing shitty meta defenses for their play?

Good question RC!

FA gets kinda flustered with the heat she's been getting tho, sorta resenting the plan RC has strongarmed on her.

I'm not your blind follower RC.

Complete and utter sense to me.
So my suggestion is to lynch this girl, see how she flips and then lynch RC accordingly.

He's calling RC scum that is defending his scumbuddy FA. But he pushes for a FA lynch. I'm still very much townreading the FA/mollie slot. So I basically feel like this is designed to make RC look good once FA flips.

like this quote in particular:

So my suggestion is to lynch this girl, see how she flips and then lynch RC accordingly

Is just so bad now that we know RC is scum.

VOTE: Robster

I can't speak for my predecessor and his actions but I'm not sure that

[Golden Robster]

I'm not sure how that only applies to Zulfy being scum. Town Zulfy could easily make that statement as well.

You're assuming that Zulfy has to be scum because he had "prior knowledge" of FA's flip.

[pieguyn]

my issue with the Zulfy interactions is more that his read on RC looked really really strained - i think he was going for a distancing play there and not realizing just how forced it was coming across.

posts like 1508, for instance, just read like he was coming up with bullshit for the sake of looking like he had more material to push RC with, cos there was, and is, no logical reason for it. there was nothing RC said that could have seriously been interpreted as a "scum slip" without severe mental gymnastics. and then, after he mentioned it, he didn't even remotely push it in a way i would expect from town who thought they found a slip. he should have been all over people getting them to see what they was seeing if he actually found a slip, he didn't even so much as _explain_ it. there are a lot more like this that i found in my original pass of the game which i laid out in a previous post.

[DeathNote]

Why jail errant? If you want to hit someone in the hood, wouldn't i be a better target?

[JarJarDrinks]

Why jail errant? If you want to hit someone in the hood, wouldn't i be a better target?

Why would you be a better target?

[Errantparabola]

my issue with the Zulfy interactions is more that his read on RC looked really really strained - i think he was going for a distancing play there and not realizing just how forced it was coming across.

really? zulfy's interactions are the one thing that redeems GR for me. Titus/GR are nowhere close to town.

[DeathNote]

Because I'm the accused sk, not him.

[JarJarDrinks]

Because I'm the accused sk, not him.

But you're NOT the SK right? So how is you recommending yourself for detainment gonna help the town?

[Golden Robster]

I'm protesting my innocence for the last time but it seems slightly futile.

Thoughts before I flip.

1. Is DN really the BP townie?
2. There is probably going be at least one scum on my wagon so make sure to do a VCA.

[Firebringer]

Because I'm the accused sk, not him.

But you're NOT the SK right? So how is you recommending yourself for detainment gonna help the town?

What this says...

[DeathNote]

I'm mostly pointing out that jailing someone in hood seems less good

[JarJarDrinks]

i'm fine with ending day here

[DeathNote]

vote: Golden Robster

I am still for you jailing someone not in the hood.

[pieguyn]

golden robster posting online and not checking in here makes me feel optimistic it was a scum lynch

[pieguyn]

now we just need to wait for mod

[Firebringer]

I am optimistic as well.
Pie. How you doing?

[pieguyn]

i'm still awake at 5 AM for some ungodly reason. i need to sleep

[Firebringer]

Arizona and its damn "We don't like Daylight savings"

Its only 4 am in the rest of the PST!