Open 622 - Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[jmo16mla]

This game is dying. Let's quicklynch someone.

UNVOTE: whoever I'm voting
VOTE: snarky

I don't fully see the case here, but I don't

not

see the case. As good as anything. I'll also accept ricastle (who is sad that I caught him so easily) or Armageddon (who asks silly questions to look like he's participating.

LYNCH!

This really is a terrible post... Why didn't I see that earlier.

[Karnage]

is that supposed to be me defending macrell?

[jmo16mla]

I notice the karnage wagon is stalling. No one really defending him, per se, just sort of stuck.

This is a good sign, IMO.

Two more, please.

Two more votes, cookies, what?

Also why is it stalling good?

Lowell just prodging and telling us to vote Karnage. Seems scummy, buf from what I can tell is also typical Lowell. Willing to vote if it continues, but for now isn't enough.

The slip:

Nevermind. I'm an idiot. I was waiting for you to say snarky then i was going to ask how me, snarky, and Lowell could all be scum but I forgot about the mafia traitor.

I'm guessing what he's getting at is that most people would assume 3 scum in a game with this many players. There's only going to be two people in scumchat due to the traitor, so it makes sense for scum to slip up and forget about the traitor when counting the number of scum in the game.

Also, Zulfy's probably the Traitor.

Karnage was going to ask how I could think three people were scum. This implies that he believed the scumteam consisted of less than 3 people. He corrects himself by remembering the existance of a traitor.

What townie would assume there were two scum in a 12P if they forgot a traitor existed, let alone a townie with multiple years on-site experience?

Obviously, the traitor isn't mentioned in the other scum's role PMs, and isn't in their PT. This would make it easy for one of those two scum to forget there was a traitor and

then

assume there were only two scum. This is the only standpoint from which his assumption makes sense.

He read 209 where I accused him of assuming there were only two scum, and brushed it off as an honest mistake, with no further attempt being made to clarify his post's true meaning. If what you say were correct, I think he would have made it clear by now.

Fair, but I was mostly referring to the traitor's name. Also, this is an open so it would be easy for them to find that basic information out anyway. Without a name to associate with the role, it's much more possible to forget about it.

Why? What have I said that is wrong?

You wanted to end that line of questioning after you lost the punchline so you wouldn't have to awkwardly drop it later.

But let's say you're town. Why did you think there was only two scum?

Here, because you're making up slips.

Still here, hi.

Hello.

Nobody put Karnage at L-2, we don't need a quickhammer today. Or almost any day.

So you are ok with 115 and 170 where he voted/unvoted Mario without commenting on either?

I mean it isn't entirely desirable but early day1 I don't see too much scum in this. If it puts someone to L-1 or hammers or something yeah, but these votes happen all the time.

VOTE: Ricastle Answering questions for someone else isn't good. Refuses to move off the scumslip line despite it being horrid. Probably realized that, won't back down because people might suspect him for it. That or he's just dedicated to pushing Karnage until lynch with this. Either way, scumny.

Here.

[jmo16mla]

is that supposed to be me defending macrell?

No, I went back looking for marcrells posts that I saw last night and found that one from Lowell in the process.

[Karnage]

ok, so lets assume I'm scum (which I'm not). we have 2 weeks left in the day so lets find my partner in the mean time and we can lynch either them or me closer to the deadline. That way if I'm mislynched the day wouldn't have been a complete waste.

[jmo16mla]

roflcopter

Karnage

MarioManiac4

Persivul

Ricastle

Marcrell

Lowell

Armageddon

Zulfy

jmo16mla

SnarkySnowman

Gendaberry

This is our supposed town list.

2 scum left, 4 players to chose from.

[Persivul]

Arma and Mario top my list.

[SnarkySnowman]

I bodyguarded Ricastle -___-

Since he said he blocked Grenda N1, my guess is mafia used their strongman to kill roflcopter (who was my N1 target). Then I'm guessing Ricastle blocked me, not trusting my claim :///////////

Grenda, any results?

Persivul, there's definitely a ninja still out there so not going anywhere is the same as inconclusive.

[SnarkySnowman]

VOTE: Karnage by the way. I agree with jmo's assessment of the interaction between him and marcrell. I still think mario is town, and I want to see more from arma before I decide to go on the lynchpath for him. jmo still gutreads scum but just about all his posts read strongly town-motivated.

[Gendaberry]

Investigated Karnage, and he's not a goon.

I pretty much agree with jmo on Karnage/Marcrell. At this point, Arma/Karnage are my preferred lynches.

VOTE: Armageddon

[Gendaberry]

Arma and Mario top my list.

Reasoning for Mario?

[Armageddon]

Arma and Mario top my list.

Explain why I top your list, what exactly makes me scummy?

[Karnage]

roflcopter

Karnage

MarioManiac4

Persivul

Ricastle

Marcrell

Lowell

Armageddon

Zulfy

jmo16mla

SnarkySnowman

Gendaberry

This is our supposed town list.

2 scum left, 5 players to chose from.

FYP

[Karnage]

Arma and Mario top my list.

Explain why I top your list, what exactly makes me scummy?

do you think he is scum trying to frame you?

[Armageddon]

Arma and Mario top my list.

Explain why I top your list, what exactly makes me scummy?

do you think he is scum trying to frame you?

No, I just want to know what makes me so scummy, because I genuinely have no idea, is it my lack of posting? or is it something that I did? I have already explained my Day 1 votes, or were my explanations not good enough?

VOTE: Lowell

He's still by far my top scum lead, his posting was terrible and I'm surprised it took jmo so long to see that, when I saw it ages ago.

[jmo16mla]

Arma and Mario top my list.

Explain why I top your list, what exactly makes me scummy?

You're scummy to ME because I feel like you haven't contributed much at all and you're just kind of gliding along.

[Karnage]

I bodyguarded Ricastle -___-

Since he said he blocked Grenda N1, my guess is mafia used their strongman to kill roflcopter (who was my N1 target). Then I'm guessing Ricastle blocked me, not trusting my claim :///////////

Grenda, any results?

Persivul, there's definitely a ninja still out there so not going anywhere is the same as inconclusive.

So twice you chose to protect the person that was nk'd and twice your protection failed. you are simultaneously the best and worst bodyguard in history. or you could be scum.

[jmo16mla]

Scum snarky wouldn't surprise me.

He claimed late. Filling the last possible spot for a power role.

[Lowell]

I just showed up to LOL at ricastle for how scummily he bussed his partner yesterday. Scummy as hell.

So, plan B: someone remind me how many powerroles there are if scum recruited traitor (which I strongly believe they did, because it seems obviously stupid not to). Arma can feel free to jump in and say "oh nice try pleading ignorance, scum" as well if he wants, so long as someone answers the question.

[Lowell]

Nevermind I see it on the first page

[Lowell]

Scum snarky wouldn't surprise me.

He claimed late. Filling the last possible spot for a power role.

I can... sort of... see this? As a way for traitor to signal to the mafia, who would know how many powerroles there are.

Except that if there is a strongman, wouldn't that mean there IS another power role and make this play a bit risky?

Arma is scum. I hate to be the OMGUS guy, but it's clear his attacks on me at this point are just "oh, this guy doesn't do much, so he's an easy target (unfortunately, true, I've been busy)"

[Lowell]

Scum snarky wouldn't surprise me.

He claimed late. Filling the last possible spot for a power role.

Actually, wait. What are you saying here? Why is this the last possible slot for a power role, scumguy?

[jmo16mla]

Scum can only chose so many roles. Town get 2plus however many scum pick, which is three.

I'm wasted right now so inn not even going to argue with your stupidity.

[MarioManiac4]

hi im here now, my internet was down last night. catching up.

[MarioManiac4]

my read on karnage feels old and dusty tbh. i cannot, however, townread his recent posts or even scumread them. jmo seems to be trying to take the lead which could be a scum thing; it is no secret mafia are between a rock and a hard place and they need to strongman lynches to win. confirming himself as town is also weird.
arma is still unreadable. he pops up, says hi, votes someone and gives a burst of reasoning and he rarely differs from this cycle.

lowell continues to be lowell.

but i still do want to lynch snarky as well. i stand by the fact scum with daytalk could have given SS, who wasn't considered town and was struggling, a readlist but forgot to exclude ss. the null bit has no reasoning and it isn't organic. i think that is our scumlip.

VOTE: SnarkySnowman