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[Spiffeh]

Xtoxm the most important take away from all this is Davsto's complete 180 when he realized I was dead set on voting for him.

"My theory is Xtoxm is the last scum" to "omg spiffy your role makes SO much sense as scum and here are the many reasons why" is not a natural progression

He planned justifications for going after either of us so he could appeal to whoever would be easier to convince

[Xtoxm]

dav mate

why are you orange

[Xtoxm]

i was thinking about what dgb said in the hood and the way spiffs role functions and realised he's probably town

but i don't want to rush this decision

[Xtoxm]

Also, I don't honestly think you think I'm scum. I'm fairly sure you've played with scum Davsto before (correct me if I'm wrong). If so, you know I'm fucking awful as scum, fairly consistently lynched D1 or D2. My play this game has been many things. But not my scum play.

this comment bugs me

we know you're a capable scum player from GBA

so why are you trying to say you're incapable as scum

i want to apply LAL to this comment

[Xtoxm]

spiffeh also has no reason to play this in the way he has as scum

literally chosen the hardest route to victory

from what he's seen of me he thinks im a weak player who is unlikely to reevaluate

yesterday i tried to lynch him

with fire as my 2nd choice

leaving dav alive and voting him before i even post leaving himself trying to convince me to change my mind on him

is not how i expect scum-spiff to approach this lylo

[Davsto]

dav mate

why are you orange

idk

Also, I don't honestly think you think I'm scum. I'm fairly sure you've played with scum Davsto before (correct me if I'm wrong). If so, you know I'm fucking awful as scum, fairly consistently lynched D1 or D2. My play this game has been many things. But not my scum play.

this comment bugs me

we know you're a capable scum player from GBA

so why are you trying to say you're incapable as scum

i want to apply LAL to this comment

Disagree. When it comes to actual day-play, behaving townily, I did pretty much awfully apart from that one thing I did. I spent most of that game coasting on a vigilante claim. That's how the game is in my head.

Compare my actual play here to there, or any other of my scum games. I'm not scum here. It should be obvious.

[Davsto]

spiffeh also has no reason to play this in the way he has as scum

literally chosen the hardest route to victory

from what he's seen of me he thinks im a weak player who is unlikely to reevaluate

yesterday i tried to lynch him

with fire as my 2nd choice

leaving dav alive and voting him before i even post leaving himself trying to convince me to change my mind on him

is not how i expect scum-spiff to approach this lylo

You're saying Spiffeh would have made an odd choice here if he were scum

But if I were scum, I killed the player townreading me the most (Firebringer) while leaving alive the player most likely to push me (Spiffeh, who had already stated that I were the scum if not Aristophanes and that he was almost certain you were town).

[Davsto]

spiffeh also has no reason to play this in the way he has as scum

literally chosen the hardest route to victory

from what he's seen of me he thinks im a weak player who is unlikely to reevaluate

yesterday i tried to lynch him

with fire as my 2nd choice

leaving dav alive and voting him before i even post leaving himself trying to convince me to change my mind on him

is not how i expect scum-spiff to approach this lylo

Actually

After some thinking in the shower

I can't help but feel this is exactly what scum!Spiffeh would do.

Firebringer, as well as being a huge wild card in lylo, could easily have been considered conftown by others. Not worth pushing a lynch on.

So, it's between me and you to push. He had already stated that you were basically confirmed town to him, while I was his second choice after Aristophanes town. If he were scum

the only way for him to look consistent would have been to push me today

.

So, he kills Firebringer who would probably have never voted me, and neighbourises you.

[Xtoxm]

I spent most of that game coasting on a vigilante claim. That's how the game is in my head.

No. 1 problem with this game existing: I will no longer be able to get a "well why would he do that" or "as scum he wouldn't have the balls to do that" kind of read on me because I literally got a scum partner to kill themselves for a gambit like fuck what should I do

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7355112

you fake towned pretty good in that game too

[Xtoxm]

I can't help but feel this is exactly what scum!Spiffeh would do.

why are you still talking like you don't 100% know hes scum

[Xtoxm]

can you go through exactly what your role is

paraphrase pm details etc

[Xtoxm]

But if I were scum, I killed the player townreading me the most (Firebringer) while leaving alive the player most likely to push me (Spiffeh, who had already stated that I were the scum if not Aristophanes and that he was almost certain you were town).

i was townreading you most out of everyone yesterday too

so this doesnt really mean much

and i pushed spiff a lot harder than fire did

[Xtoxm]

Compare my actual play here to there, or any other of my scum games. I'm not scum here. It should be obvious.

you can quit this useless ate crap i say this every time im scum

[Xtoxm]

Up to p30ish

All the dead scum are hardcore lurking so I'm not getting much out of this

But lots of dead town scumread dav

And lots of dead town townread spiff

[Xtoxm]

I feel like Spiffeh's deliberately trying to grab towncred constantly in the same way I do as scum.

It gives me really bad feels.

Hopefully he's town, hopefully get nked, hopefully I'm wrong; but if he is still alive the day before LyLo I want him gone no questions.

;-;

dav

why did you pick aris yesterday over spiff when i gave you the decider

[Spiffeh]

spiffeh also has no reason to play this in the way he has as scum

literally chosen the hardest route to victory

from what he's seen of me he thinks im a weak player who is unlikely to reevaluate

yesterday i tried to lynch him

with fire as my 2nd choice

leaving dav alive and voting him before i even post leaving himself trying to convince me to change my mind on him

is not how i expect scum-spiff to approach this lylo

You're saying Spiffeh would have made an odd choice here if he were scum

But if I were scum, I killed the player townreading me the most (Firebringer) while leaving alive the player most likely to push me (Spiffeh, who had already stated that I were the scum if not Aristophanes and that he was almost certain you were town).

I was obviously the most mislynchable one left yesterday and that's why you kept me alive.

[Spiffeh]

Xtoxm I am glad you are seeing things my way

[Davsto]

I spent most of that game coasting on a vigilante claim. That's how the game is in my head.

No. 1 problem with this game existing: I will no longer be able to get a "well why would he do that" or "as scum he wouldn't have the balls to do that" kind of read on me because I literally got a scum partner to kill themselves for a gambit like fuck what should I do

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p7355112

you fake towned pretty good in that game too

Again, that (the post you linked) was all to do with role actions. As far as I remember, my actual day behaviour was mediocre at best and led to me being the most popular following lynch, or at least would have done had the game not been abandoned.

I can't help but feel this is exactly what scum!Spiffeh would do.

why are you still talking like you don't 100% know hes scum

I'm seeing things from your viewpoint, where you don't know 100% that he's scum. I know he's scum; but just going "I'm not scum so he must be" over and over isn't gonna convince you of that truth.

can you go through exactly what your role is

paraphrase pm details etc

I'm a Flourescent Townie. I target one player each night. They get a message telling them that a player is flourescent and wishes for them to know. Basically flavoured fruit vendor/visitor role kinda thing.

Compare my actual play here to there, or any other of my scum games. I'm not scum here. It should be obvious.

you can quit this useless ate crap i say this every time im scum

It's the best defence I have beyond you reading through the game and seeing I'm not scum.

I feel like Spiffeh's deliberately trying to grab towncred constantly in the same way I do as scum.

It gives me really bad feels.

Hopefully he's town, hopefully get nked, hopefully I'm wrong; but if he is still alive the day before LyLo I want him gone no questions.

;-;

dav

why did you pick aris yesterday over spiff when i gave you the decider

Remember that theory I came out with at the beginning of the day regarding power roles that made me think you were scum? I had already thought of it at that point - if I lynched Ari and Spiff wasn't nightkilled, at that time I thought I had a fairly certain scum candidate.

Also, in terms of my 180 at the beginning of the day, I was kinda forced; no way was Spiff gonna think you were scum by the way he was acting, so either he was scum or we had basically already lost. Therefore, best move was to assume that Spiffeh was scum.

[Spiffeh]

hi Dav

[Davsto]

yo Spiff

[Spiffeh]

I hope Xtoxm votes for you and not me

[Davsto]

I hope the opposite

<3

[Spiffeh]

But I said it first so mine is better

[Davsto]

yeah well mine had a <3 under it so it was nicer

[Spiffeh]

But you're scum and I'm not

so ha