Open 623 (White Flag) - A Moment in Time (Over)

[TheCow]

Do you object to my posting a reads list?

It's not the fact that you posted a reads list, it's that it was so early in the game and you didn't give reasons for why you were reading people the way you were. Still, it's content and content is useful, so object isn't the right word.

Pedit @Cow: I'm just looking at it for now--null/weak scrum. It was the first thing that jumped out at me as scummy, but other people were already pointing it out and there wasn't any focus on SirCakez, who seems way scummier.

Those two reads are -- as of right now -- mutually exclusive, I presume?

@AI: SS+Rhaz->PC->Cakez (?)

[pistachi0n]

What do you mean by mutually exclusive? That I don't think they can't both be scum? I'm not going to do associatives until there's a scumflip. I think Cakez is scummier so that's where my vote is.

[TheCow]

What do you mean by mutually exclusive? That I don't think they can't both be scum? I'm not going to do associatives until there's a scumflip. I think Cakez is scummier so that's where my vote is.

That is, those two reads are unrelated to each other at this time. You have one read in one box, and another read in a second box. Either box could go either way right now, but they can't affect each other at this time, being in two different boxes.

Though that last sentence answers my next question, thank you.

[AlwaysInnocent]

@AI: SS+Rhaz->PC->Cakez (?)

What?

[Something_Smart]

I don't like Cakez because he's making unsupported statements while overly explaining his actions. He gives the feeling of scum trying not to stand out.
VOTE: SirCakez

[SirCakez]

Now that's definitely a scum vote.

[TheCow]

@AI: SS+Rhaz->PC->Cakez (?)

What?

Your read progression.

[Something_Smart]

Now that's definitely a scum vote.

if you mean a vote on scum then yeah sure

[SirCakez]

Nope other way.
You too easily changed votes for someone who was previously so invested in their Rhazh scum read. Scum opportunistically jumping on a wagon that looked to take pressure away from them.

[TheCow]

Ah Titus I understand your pov now.
SirCakez feels off to me.

I don't like Cakez because he's making unsupported statements while overly explaining his actions. He gives the feeling of scum trying not to stand out.
VOTE: SirCakez

What motivated this flip?

[Something_Smart]

It wasn't a flip. "Off" means "not right". And Cakez you just said I was scum because of the scum motivation that you presupposed my posts would have, rather than looking at the actual motivation that they have. That's scum logic.

[SirCakez]

The actual motivation they have is getting a counterwagon off of your scum butt.

[TheCow]

The actual motivation they have is getting a counterwagon off of your scum butt.

Please rephrase this in a way that makes sense. "They" and "your"?

[SirCakez]

Whoops typed they instead of you
"The actual motivation you have is getting a counter wagon off of your scum butt."

[RhazhBash]

VOTE: Rhazh
Attacking people without voting to support it, making unprompted references to what the scum want or do, inconsistencies in play. Overall feels like he is trying to fit in and play like everyone else is.

I'm sorry I'm more used to a different site where the meta isn't to vote whoever you push. Speaking of I'd like to see if there actually are any associative tells against me in 3 pages, because I sure as hell don't see them.

[Yonom]

I kinda have to agree with SirCakez and PC here, Something_Smart seems to be jumping on conclusions too fast and too randomly.

VOTE: Something_Smart

[TheCow]

Speaking of I'd like to see if there actually are any associative tells against me in 3 pages, because I sure as hell don't see them.

what

I think that's L-2

[TheCow]

maybe they should role claim

[PhantomCobalt]

L-2: mixtape by PhantomCobalt

Produced by fire records

[Titus]

Bm attacked me in RVs by lynch Titus b4 she goes into VCA.
When pressured he claimed joke.

ThT is Sudoken

Sorry phone post fucked up because driving.

Blackest Magic attacked me in RVS (random vote stage) by saying let's lynch Titus before VCA.

When he was pressured for it, he claimed joke. He was scum.

That was Sudoken mafia. Scum "joking" like that hasn't let me wrong.

[TheCow]

Cerb, SS and Rhaz did the same "joking" tell BM did in Sudoken.

Join me.

Spoiler: quotes

AI must be a godplayer, three scumgets in three pages

I'm the bestest scumhunter in the world.

AI isn't voting scum. I caught two since post 18.

Whatever SS is at, he needs to die like now.

Was me.

I told myself I wouldn't hydra slip with this account. Lmfao.

Lynch SS.

If he flips scum, lynch Rz.

If we cooperate, we may win by post 200.

SS and Rhazh are you two scumgets here, I presume? The first quote here implying that those two, with Cerbs, are your three scumleans/reads?

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Posting and driving is unsafe, try to avoid dying.

[Something_Smart]

SirCakez's posts are reading very cautious and contrived. And he's still ignoring my reasons in favor of a straw man.

[SirCakez]

Because your points are wrong. My statement are supported by the posts and nothing has been overly explained. Really, I've only explained what I've been questioned over.
I also find it interesting that Pistachion is accusing me of not explaining while SS is accusing me of overexplaining.

[TheCow]

Spoiler: post 14

I love your avatar, Titus

Question for everyone:
Given that this setup is white flag, what do you think of bussing in this game? Will scum do it? More importantly, would you do it if you were scum?

I loathe bussing, I feel it is inelegant and I prefer to win perfect games. With that said, scum might do it?

What I'm interested in though, is why you're going out of your way to make us especially aware of the bussing possibiity, especially in a game where the setup is named after such tactics. Usually when someone pushes someone elss, it's because they believe they're on opposite teams, but here you're kind of making it seem like a push on someone is just as likely to be a bus attempt as anything else.

Hmm. I don't like the way I phrased the last sentencex but I think you know what I mean.

Cerberus, why no RVS?

I don't vote unless I have a compelling reason to. RVS is dumb, and I also find D1 to be rather uninspiring. I work off hard data that is, flips and dayplay/nightplay when taken in conjunction with the flips we have, to determine which players have taken lines which make compelling arguments that the are scum/others are town, so they must be scum through PoE.

Barring a need to absolutely push a lynch through towards deadline, or someone outright contradicting themselves, it's unlikely you'll see me put a vote down today or develop a hard read on anyone.

Not impossible, mind you. Just unlikely.

-Cerb

This here quote made me interested in Cerberus. The wording a tone plus the length. Ending it on "-Cerb", too.

Spoiler: posts 69,74,86

AI must be a godplayer, three scumgets in three pages

I'm the bestest scumhunter in the world.

AI isn't voting scum. I caught two since post 18.

Whatever SS is at, he needs to die like now.

Was me.

I told myself I wouldn't hydra slip with this account. Lmfao.

Think of it as helping Drixx be a better moderator, now this game will show up for him even when he's in hydra with you.

Also, Titus, I'm pretty sure you're doing that thing I hate where you go off of like, nothing at all, and just decide a buncha people are scum. :-/

Speaking of Titus, who here is familiar with her, besides myself? And SS I guess, since she did say something about not being their IC anymore.

PC, Cow and Titus can go in the town pile.
SS and Rhazh can go in the scum pile.

Cerberus can be in the null pile alone.

YES! SUCK IT BITCHES, I HAVE A ROOM TO MYSELF!

Anyways, so you're buying titus' conclusion that scum totally slipped on P1 of D1?

pedit: hmm. Noted. I need to remind myself of what the hell that was, cause BM was kinda nailed to the wall for a lot more than just one post.

Do you object to my posting a reads list?

84 post reads list. *sigh* This should be entertaining. :p

Weird that you'd ask if anyone objects, I mean...everybody likes getting more content from people that's actually meaningful, town so they can sort them, scum so they can twist it. *shrug*

TheCow: I'm at work, and this is kinda my lowest priority if ya know what I mean.

Ask me stuff though and I'll gladly talk to you about whatever though.

The format is similar, but those things I found interesting are gone. 84 came later with the emotes. I found this bit strange.

The conclusion I drew was that post 14 is far more worked than the other posts an was supposed to be catchier, be this a conscious decision or not. The "-Cerb" bit looks like a habit from playing in hydras. Oddly bulky first post (based on previous games) so the decision was likely conscious. Requires further reading.

[Something_Smart]

SirCakez how did you think I would read you? As town?