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Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:20 am
by Titus
I'm hosting Mass Effect Mafia. Y'all should join.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:26 am
by Raskolnikov
PTs please?
Thanks for modding metrion!

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:47 am
by Dwlee99
Ohhh a traitor! Gg :D

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 7:49 am
by Dwlee99
Thanks for hosting! I dont think I did much since replacing in, I was against the raskol/kirro lynch but eventually I thought it was kirro. idk, again, gg

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:02 am
by implosion
I really did not enjoy this game very much. When I got my role PM I was excited for a role I hadn't been before but being fake-innoed as a traitor kind of sucks. I had no strong motivation to look town anymore because my lynch was off the table and I couldn't win the game on my own. Ostensibly my only imperative was to make Synd look town and it's not really fun playing in that way of only caring how someone else is perceived. It also isn't fun being more or less forced into a specific tactic because nothing else benefitted my cause (obviously I had no reason whatsoever to bus after GR flipped and only nominal motivation if that before).

Regardless of that, gg.

I am actually ironically probably the most curious about the scum PT because I'm curious how obviously I was the traitor to scum <_<

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:04 am
by Raskolnikov
In post 2153, Dwlee99 wrote:Thanks for hosting! I dont think I did much since replacing in, I was against the raskol/kirro lynch but eventually I thought it was kirro. idk, again, gg
That's okay.
Voting kirroha there instead of me was important since if I had been lynched d4 kirroha almost certainly would've been mislynched in lylo.
Technically you being right on me and being wrong on kirroha isn't any more or less wrong than nino being right on kirroha and wrong on me, but because of the specific situation this game your views being different from nino's was one of the things that allowed us to win in the end.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:05 am
by Dwlee99
Yea that is true. Lynching you would have been bad

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:09 am
by Metrion
I'm just glad that some people enjoyed the game being continued, so it was worth it to salvage. It was really slow at times so I was worried that it wasn't worth the effort.

Unfortunately, I have been given no power over the PTs. So I think N or someone has to do something about those.

Spoiler: For Implosion
In post 99, Syndesis wrote:PST.

did I just see an implosion traitor crumb
In post 103, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 100, Golden Robster wrote:
In post 999, implosion wrote:siiiiiilent niiiight
hooooooly niiiiiight
Was this not the traitor crumb?
In post 104, Syndesis wrote:no?
In post 1014, implosion wrote:I wonder to some extent if it's possible
both scum
are in there. Or if scum are less likely to be in there since so many people were online and we still couldn't reach a lynch.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:17 am
by Raskolnikov
@That does suck to hear, I'm sorry you had to play that role.
It explains a lot too, especially when I was looking back and didn't see any associations from you d1-3.
Combined with an actual feeling you gave off of not knowing what was going on it was really throwing things off when I tried to read you for most of the game.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:17 am
by Raskolnikov
*@implosion

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:18 am
by implosion
oh dear god did i really scumslip >___________<

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:20 am
by implosion
the only thing that I really did that was trying to crumb traitor at all was when I outed kirroha earlier. I was trying to look to scum like I was helping them role fish. I'm actually not sure whether or not I'd have done something similar as town.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:23 am
by Raskolnikov

Code: Select all

implosion - town- I think scum discussed kirroha's crumb, whereas implosion is ignorant/st

This is literally my day 1 note on you, since daytalk was explicitly enabled :lol:

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:26 am
by implosion
Yeeeeeeah.

Most of my play as scum revolves around trying to emulate my play as town. If I were regular scum I certainly would have mentioned the translation in the PT, and I would have figured out what to do in-thread by trying to figure out what I'd have done as town (possibly mentioning that I decoded the crumb but not saying what it was).

Incidentally I actually spent like an hour trying to solve tojam's crumb (I essentially just ran it through a couple of algorithms to see if it was any of the common roles on the wiki) to no avail. I did notice that it was 13 letters long and thus likely vt (which I also would have mentioned in the scum PT if I had been scum).

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:28 am
by MagnaofIllusion
That reminds me - this game demonstrates that bread-crumbing VT is a bad idea outside of a few rare circumstances.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:29 am
by implosion
(Also just to be clear, no hard feelings at all toward either GR or synd, although I do have some towards shortcut/taisho :|)

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:32 am
by RadiantCowbells
ftr, I don't look down on the fact that Kirroha was lynched considering that the people voting her weren't around in the actual early game and when you're not there for something like that you don't get the same kind of townread that me and Raskol did.

that said, if Raskol had gotten lynched after his play on D4 and D5 I would have been astounded and disgusted.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 8:55 am
by MagnaofIllusion
In post 2132, Titus wrote:Totally didn't expect hammer there.
If I may ask - any reason why?

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 9:01 am
by Raskolnikov
Idk, apparently my d4d5 was super scummy desperation play. Which makes me wonder if the townier looking thing would've been to be apathetic :?

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 9:38 am
by Dwlee99
In post 2166, RadiantCowbells wrote:ftr, I don't look down on the fact that Kirroha was lynched considering that the people voting her weren't around in the actual early game and when you're not there for something like that you don't get the same kind of townread that me and Raskol did.

that said, if Raskol had gotten lynched after his play on D4 and D5 I would have been astounded and disgusted.
Kirro's early.posting was what made.me think they were town

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 11:32 am
by GuyInFreezer
Sorry for flaking out of the game

I could've sworn I sent a V/LA PM to the mod but apparently I didn't send one and got kicked out <.<

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 12:37 pm
by I Am Innocent
Not my best game ever as far as reads goes, so thanks to all those who helped me get a town win.

Nice props to rask for not giving up there at the end I could feel his frustration lol

And thanks to the backup mod for reviving this game.

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 1:06 pm
by Killthestory
we won?

how did we won?

what?

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 2:20 pm
by Dierfire
This game went on for so long that I twice forgot whether I had been Town or Mafia. Maybe that has more to do with the fact that I never got to post, though.

@Mod

Thanks for running (and rescuing) the game!

Posted: Wed May 11, 2016 2:49 pm
by Titus
In post 2167, MagnaofIllusion wrote:
In post 2132, Titus wrote:Totally didn't expect hammer there.
If I may ask - any reason why?
Slow play on your part. I wasn't expecting a five second hammer there. I started to think well maybe Mag is scum lol.