BT: Ready, Aim, Fire 2! (Beta) Team Camus Wins!

[Andycyca]

Deadline is tomorrow.

[Andycyca]

No more! Processing results...

[Andycyca]

Kranksville was full of anger and fish. Last time the plan didn't work out, but this time it would be different. (YARLY?)

Four guys picked their weaopns, ckillor readied his Tickle-me Elmo, ready to eat anything, PokerFace had an reinforced Noose, klebian was ready to suffocate things, Battle Mage aimed his Anti-Asshats gun...

Now this is a good time to think about all those good times with your friends, in a lake, eating noodle salad. ¿Remember those times? Those were good times. Too bad nobody here actually has those memories. Too Bad. Anyway, the Moose bit my sister and I had to sack those stupid Closed Caption engineers... and the people who sacked them

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Somewhere in the hills there was a loud Bang and everyone took cover. The dust settled down and everyone found klebian's corpse, who accidentally threw his Silliy Putty to himself

Ready to avenge his death, the Three of them fired at the same time...The Tickle-me Elmo began eating BM's brain, and the anti-asshats made several holes to ckillor's digestive tube...

What about PokerFace? His Noose was still flying, heading to the sky and beyond.

- At Last! Kranksville belongs to Team Camus!

TEAM CAMUS WINS!

Action List:

ckillor - BM
PokerFace - *Sky
BM - ckillor
klebian - (none)

[Flameaxe]

Yaus we win!

[Brutal Assassin]

Will go ahead and just paste my notes based on what I had recieved from people. These were the PMs I sent myself.

SETUP SPECULATION

Shanba got a team-mate
Max and Roach are on a team
Pokerface is on Camus
Bird1111 is on Sartre
Klebian got nothing
Sammich got a team-mate
ckillor got nothing
Flameaxe and Klebian are on a team
Crub is on sartre
OpposedForce got nothing
BA is with OpposedForce
oEJo got a team name
jdodge is on Camus

SARTRE

Bird1111
Crub
BM or oEJo or Jordan

CAMUS

Pokerface
jdodge
BM or oEJo or Jordan

Max and Roach are partners
Flameaxe and Klebian are partners
BA and Opposed Force are partners
Sammich and ckillor or
Shamba and

No info:

JordanA24
BattleMage

No message:

ckillor
Klebian
Roach
Opposed Force

SETUP FINAL (I THINK)

Shanba got a team-mate
Max and Roach are on a team
Pokerface is on Camus
Bird1111 is on Sartre
Klebian got nothing
Sammich got a team-mate
ckillor got nothing
Flameaxe and Klebian are on a team
Crub is on sartre
OpposedForce got nothing
BA is with OpposedForce
oEJo is on Camus
jdodge is on Camus

SARTRE

Bird1111
Crub
BM

CAMUS

Pokerface
jdodge
oEJo

Flameaxe and Klebian are partners
BA and Opposed Force are partners
Sammich and Shamba are partners (they are positive)
Max and Roach are partners (they are positive)

Jordan and ckillor are loners with no information, they are enemies.

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I was right with the exception of having Sammich+Shamba and Jordan+ckillor switched (I had to make some assumptions to come to that). Just needed to live on to day 2. I'm not sure how teams could have been pieced together from that, I guess Pokerface made some rather large assumptions there. I just figured that the 2 sets of pairs I had were enemies for the sake of even-ness, and told my partner (Opposed Force) everything I knew and told him to attack Klebian. In the end he didn't believe me despite my telling him a ridiculous amount of information. *shrug*

Oh well. Can I win too for having best gambit (in PMing everyone very quickly before any information could be shared)?

[Battle Mage]

lol gd game guys. I'm pretty pleased i managed to see off 3 of the 4 Camus people at the end, and i think its fitting that Pokerface won it for his team.

BM

[Andycyca]

@BrutalAssassin: O_o nice deductions! Later today I'll tell you how right/wrong you are. And yes, Prizes will be awarded today or tomorrow.

BM: Sorry, but you're nominated for fiercest in BTRAF2

DISCUSS

[Shanba]

YEEEAHAH! Die, everyone! Stick it to them!

I'm also pleased that I didn't give too much away to BA. Tricksy man, BA

[PokerFace]

Alright team! Go Camus! GG.

Also
GG Battle Mage, you are a worthy opponent.
GG Brutal Assassin your antics of pming everyone encouraged me, a guy that only wanted semi discussion, to do the same.
GG Everyone else as well.

I have but one regret from this game. I sent this message too ckillor and Klebian during round three.

Everyone sky shooting failed so now we use logic instead of WIFOM. Here is some math. BM can shoot 5 things: self, sky, me, ckillor, klebian. If he shoots sky, me, ckillor, or klebian he is open to an attack. There are 4/5 times we can kill him and win. I say one of us shoots him each round and the others hit the sky. Worst case scenario we loose one guy. All other case scenarios we may still loose one but we win. and this way we choose who we loose and don't give him the choice. BM does not have the advantage we do! We must go on the offensive. Who wants to shoot him first?

My one regret is that last sentence. Ckillor volunteered to shoot him this round. Had no one volunteered I would have done it myself so I regret insuating I wanted someone to volunteer by saying that sentence. I had thought of pming ckillor and telling him I'd do it but I figured if BM was going to shoot anyone it would be ckillor. Of the three of us left on camus the one newest to the site was ckillor. And I assume he also knows BM the least. So he was least likly to shoot himself and most likly to be BM's target. I could have PMed ckillor and told him to shoot himself but had I been wrong he would not let me forget it I bet.

After all I am sure he is glad he took BM down with his last breath, payback. Yet I still wish I had hung someone other than myself/crub using the same team name claim thing I did in BTRAF1.

Oh well. Camus still won and I must dance victoriously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg
No its not me but it is better than my rhythmless self

[ckillor]

Wow, that video was awesome. and i don't mind dieing because i gave the winning blow.
Amazing job pokerface and everyone else

[Battle Mage]

lol no offence but that wasnt the best logic-especially taking into account the fact that my natural impulse in RAF is always to shoot myself (which i do about 75% of the time). I would never have shot air. I'd say the odds of me being killable was about 50% at best.
On the other hand, you did well to perceive that i would shoot Ckillor. I was hoping that after our discussion, you might be WIFOMed into shooting yourself, but in the end you gained more, by learning my way of thinking.

Yup, gd game. Most fierce player is a good thing right?

Alright team! Go Camus! GG.

Also
GG Battle Mage, you are a worthy opponent.
GG Brutal Assassin your antics of pming everyone encouraged me, a guy that only wanted semi discussion, to do the same.
GG Everyone else as well.

I have but one regret from this game. I sent this message too ckillor and Klebian during round three.

Everyone sky shooting failed so now we use logic instead of WIFOM. Here is some math. BM can shoot 5 things: self, sky, me, ckillor, klebian. If he shoots sky, me, ckillor, or klebian he is open to an attack. There are 4/5 times we can kill him and win. I say one of us shoots him each round and the others hit the sky. Worst case scenario we loose one guy. All other case scenarios we may still loose one but we win. and this way we choose who we loose and don't give him the choice. BM does not have the advantage we do! We must go on the offensive. Who wants to shoot him first?

My one regret is that last sentence. Ckillor volunteered to shoot him this round. Had no one volunteered I would have done it myself so I regret insuating I wanted someone to volunteer by saying that sentence. I had thought of pming ckillor and telling him I'd do it but I figured if BM was going to shoot anyone it would be ckillor. Of the three of us left on camus the one newest to the site was ckillor. And I assume he also knows BM the least. So he was least likly to shoot himself and most likly to be BM's target. I could have PMed ckillor and told him to shoot himself but had I been wrong he would not let me forget it I bet.

After all I am sure he is glad he took BM down with his last breath, payback. Yet I still wish I had hung someone other than myself/crub using the same team name claim thing I did in BTRAF1.

Oh well. Camus still won and I must dance victoriously
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMH0bHeiRNg
No its not me but it is better than my rhythmless self

[PokerFace]

hmmm. If one were to meta your RAF history I am not sure they would come up with the same percents based on your play, but you are undoubtly an unpredictable/X factor. (I wonder what percents someone like Roach would get on you...) Nonetheless I agree, I had no chance of predicting your every move. So I decided to try and ignore your hints or any WIFOM best I could.

You 'could' think of it this way. Why do such coments exist? Obviously they are there to sway my opinion in some way. If you read them plainly the seem to suggest me to either shoot you or shoot myself. Most likly they aren't there to get me to shoot the sky so you can shoot me. And even if they were there for the purpose of lowering my defence, ckillor would have won the game for Camus because me and you would both be dead. I suppose the one upside of that asking for volunteer thing is it allows us the decide who we would loose if you shot yourself. As long as only one of us shoots you, we only loose one guy. This is of course if I relied on WIFOM. Which i did not.

This is more reason why I did not prevent Ckillor's volunteering. He chose to shoot and was therefore ready to die if necessary I guess. But it was better to think about it like this. The most logical flaw in your

Vote: PokerFace

is that you can only vote/shoot one person. And if you are focussing on only one person in a 3 on 1 situation then the others can become our x facter or advantage. Also anyone focussing on one person in a situation where they must fight three is simply ilogical. So because focussing on only me is illogical, I figured I would be safe at the very least.

We choose who we loose and have 4/5 which is high win condition. Which are good things to have when taking on an unpredictable opponent like Battle Mage. Sure they don't grant 100% victory, but they are useful logic in a difficult situation where you have the power to kill us all should we recklessly charge at you unorganized. If this was a semi conversation game I think things would have been more difficult for us.

[Andycyca]

Nice game everyone. Any comments/suggestions on the setup/modding?

[PokerFace]

Coments/Awards

Best Mod: Andy

BTRAF1 MVP: Kinetic

BTRAF Last Kill Award for 1 and 2: Ckillor

BTRAF2 Fiercest Player Award: Battle Mage

BTRAF2 MVP: Me I hope?
BTRAF1 Fiercest Player Award: Edion?
Fiercest mean survivor or for their determination in face of peril?

Vote: Semi Discussion

in next one

Also I have good idea for SK's advantage. That 1 guy knows only that which was sent to everyone in rounds so far. Doesn't know everything, unless everything has been sent out or pieced together from what was sent out! This way they have advantage but not total advantage since they need to be alive long enough to use there power of all the pieces to put them together well enough.

Edit: We could all vote on awards or Andy could give them out like fiercest to BM

[Shanba]

the full discussion worked well here, I felt.

Vote Full discussion

[Max]

Next time maybe make more teams, and have partners in a few cases may make it more interesting

[Andycyca]

Suggestions are welcome for the next categories:

MVP (for BTRAF 1 & 2)
Fiercest
Worst death
Luckiest

Send suggestions via PM.

BTW BTRAF 3 will start very soon!

@PokerFace: I have to admit I never thought about that. Could be a nice idea, if there's an SK next BTRAF

@Max: Next one WILL have more then 2 teams

[Battle Mage]

the full discussion worked well here, I felt.

Vote Full discussion

Seconded.

[Andycyca]

Hey! Save the voting for later! I'm creating BTRAF3 thread right now!

[PokerFace]

I'm not sure how teams could have been pieced together from that, I guess Pokerface made some rather large assumptions there. I just figured that the 2 sets of pairs I had were enemies for the sake of even-ness, and told my partner (Opposed Force) everything I knew and told him to attack Klebian. In the end he didn't believe me despite my telling him a ridiculous amount of information. *shrug*

Oh well. Can I win too for having best gambit (in PMing everyone very quickly before any information could be shared)?

yes I made alot of assumptions. Funny I sent oposed forced the question...(Can't remember exact words but his reponce is posted earlier)

"So you have a connection of people you feel you're associated with on a team. Am I in this conection? Did BA pm you too?"

I doubt that made him think you were betraying him. He told me nothing useful as mentioned earlier. And since he said nothing nicly I chose not to shoot him because I thought I could get some use out of him later. He should have trusted you. One should be more trusting. And yet...

Its not what they tell you, but what they don't tell you. Sammich told me practically nothing but said I think I'm on your team. Did BA PM you to?

According to BA, Sammich got no info. I assumed he was on my team cause there was no disdain in his words. And because he blindly hinted you were with him. Giving someone info they did not ask for made me think he was genuine. I wonder if he assumed everything I said was right simply because I presented him with no disdain and even more info. A business deal where no one checked the others creditials. Is that why he shot BM?

Well Net gain...