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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:45 am
by kraska77
yeah i was just going to say
unless im missing something this seems snide
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 1:56 am
by PJ.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:02 am
by PJ.
nom wisdom for Battle Mage
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:17 am
by Accountant
Wouldnt little boat builder be more sensical then
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 2:29 am
by PJ.
No
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:23 pm
by Shaziro
Nom Accountant: Re-Educator
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:25 pm
by Accountant
You need to explain the reasoning behind the title.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:28 pm
by Shaziro
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25870
There ya go. For those who aren't interested in scrolling into that, Accountant is fairly well known for his views, which are seen as extreme by many. Some of the more prominent views, at least as far as I've seen, are that people should be, in an ideal society, re-educated to agree with said views. This, combined with his eagerness to educate people on his views in threads like the Donald Trump thread, make it fitting IMO.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:30 pm
by Not_Mafia
Kim Jong Unbelieveable
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:31 pm
by Postie
In post 0, Chevre wrote:5. Titles shouldn’t insult, harass, or abuse ANY player.
This, after all, is part of the site rules! Users do have to accept a title nomination, so don’t bother suggesting something that isn’t going to get accepted anyway.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:32 pm
by Shaziro
I don't think Accountant finds it insulting? Insulting would be suggesting a title relating to crusades or North Korea, which I specifically avoided. If he does find it insulting, I'll gladly retract it.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:36 pm
by Postie
Are you saying the title you suggested honestly reflects something you appreciate about Accountant and wish them to be recognised for, rather than being intended as a jab at their views?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:37 pm
by Shaziro
I don't have to appreciate his views to think that they are a notable part of his personality that deserves a title.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:38 pm
by Shaziro
For example, I don't like the idea of Marxism, but I think that BRO having a reference to it in his title is very fitting.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:42 pm
by Postie
The difference is that "Expert Marxman" isn't intended to have negative connotations.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:46 pm
by Shaziro
Marxism has a lot of negative connotations to a lot of people. I am one of those people. I think him wanting to re-educate people is a large part of his personality on this site, and he's specifically talked about it rather than me taking things he's said and trying to use a phrase with negative connotations. Again, if he feels it's insulting I'll recant it, that isn't my intention.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:47 pm
by Nahdia
make it into a pun and we'll talk.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 7:49 pm
by Shaziro
But I'm too tired for puns!
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:00 pm
by Accountant
In post 2307, Shaziro wrote:http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... ct[]=25870
There ya go. For those who aren't interested in scrolling into that, Accountant is fairly well known for his views, which are seen as extreme by many. Some of the more prominent views, at least as far as I've seen, are that people should be, in an ideal society, re-educated to agree with said views. This, combined with his eagerness to educate people on his views in threads like the Donald Trump thread, make it fitting IMO.
As the world's foremost leading expert on Accountant's views, I can say that re-education is not the most prominent amongst my views. It's certainly a significant part of it and something I think needs to be done, but it's not something that's relevant or influential to the MafiaScum community as a whole, nor is it my most defining personality trait. If you wish to award me a title based on my views, wouldn't it make more sense to pick an axiom?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:02 pm
by Shaziro
I more meant that it seemed to me to be the one that is most prominent to others, but fair enough.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:04 pm
by Accountant
Basically I'm not convinced that "re-educator" is a good way of summing me up. It doesn't even express a particularly important part of me - it's just a natural follow-up off other views I have. Wouldn't it make more sense to award a title based on the source views instead?
PEdit: I'm not so sure about that, either. My views about justice and idealism are often seen as more prominent in my experience. I know Nati likes making justice puns at me, and KTS suggested a title based on my idealism.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:04 pm
by Postie
Right, but the title isn't
intended
to have negative connotations.
What you're suggesting is a title that reflects a part of Accountant's views that you don't like, following a discussion you had in which you openly mocked said views, which suggests to me that this nom is intended to specifically showcase something you perceive as a negative thing about Accountant or Accountant's views.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:05 pm
by Accountant
In post 2310, Shaziro wrote:I don't think Accountant finds it insulting? Insulting would be suggesting a title relating to crusades or North Korea, which I specifically avoided. If he does find it insulting, I'll gladly retract it.
I don't find titles relating to crusades or North Korea insulting, and I won't reject them out of hand if I see a convincing explanation as to why it's a good title for me. Same with the actual proposed title about re-education.
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:08 pm
by Shaziro
In post 2321, Postie wrote:
Right, but the title isn't
intended
to have negative connotations.
What you're suggesting is a title that reflects a part of Accountant's views that you don't like, following a discussion you had in which you openly mocked said views, which suggests to me that this nom is intended to specifically showcase something you perceive as a negative thing about Accountant or Accountant's views.
I don't know how I can convince you otherwise, other than just saying that no, that isn't my intention? I've been trying to find title suggestions that are actually good for a while to contribute to making this thread more productive, and this is one I found.
An alternate title for Accountant could be
Ideal > Real
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2016 8:11 pm
by Accountant
I have no objections to that title.