Mini 1806 : DotA Mafia [Round 1 - SD] (Game Over ?!)

[Frozen Angel]

We lost because we didn't lynch the obv scum Dunnstral and Masquerade who was sitting on the middle ground.

The claims just added to it.

you can't deny the way shiro made himself a target with the way he claimed and the way bane lost all of his functionality by claiming.

I know you failed to lynch the scum and thats the reason you lost Obviously. I'm trying to see if the reason is setup or the way it got played out.

was anyone feeling their hero is weak in any manner for countering the other heroes in game?

I think many roles needed added utility so that they can function for both sides in a good fashion?
I found it difficult to pick my hero because I felt the other heroes abilities were anti town or not very useful?

I have no idea, didn't really like my hero either in general.

I'm going to make mortal strike and similar abilities universal. I felt your hero is to tided up.

Your hero is designed in a way that forcing the player to activate the vampiric arue when they cleared all the players in their team. you were to focused on other team and activated it fast which was against the point I wanted it to be

[Frozen Angel]

which heroes were weak?

[Frozen Angel]

let me post the game tables though first. I'm here to discuss

[Masquerade]

The only thing that was awsome and proved how much not claiming is beneficial was the way Scum team were assuming thenewearth is Rubik and killed only from dire.

100% true

THE THING IS RUBICK WAS IN MY DRAFT

Ye we figured that because you kept mentioning him.

@Fire: I've had a supereasy win as scum before because of Day 1 massclaim. I just let town decide what to do with my power and confirmed (and then killed) all the townies. Also, once there are more roles created for this game, discards will be announced because there will still be a huge pool of roles left.

@Frozen, I posted somewhere earlier about DK, where maybe the loved status from dragon blood I think it is, is only for town and godfather ability for scum, to prevent scum from being unlynchable in mylo/lylo. I needed 6 votes today, because I was also strength.

/pre-in for next run

[Firebringer]

Your hero is designed in a way that forcing the player to activate the vampiric arue when they cleared all the players in their team. you were to focused on other team and activated it fast which was against the point I wanted it to be

I didn't even get vampirir aura did i?
I thought I had the other two abilities....

[thenewearth]

It wasn't my intention anyways

Plus, Rubick or not in my draft, He's the only protective role I can think of

[Frozen Angel]

I saw that.

DK role was a speed change before game start to just make the game unbreakable!

It needs to be balanced in so many ways but I think the loved modifier wasn't so much game breaker.

[Firebringer]

@Fire: I've had a supereasy win as scum before because of Day 1 massclaim. I just let town decide what to do with my power and confirmed (and then killed) all the townies. Also, once there are more roles created for this game, discards will be announced because there will still be a huge pool of roles left.

Doubtful.

[Firebringer]

I have only seen day 1 mass claims in role madnesses helping town tbh.

[Frozen Angel]

It wasn't my intention anyways

Plus, Rubick or not in my draft, He's the only protective role I can think of

enchantress was another protective as well. there were so many blockers as well

not sure what you mean

[Firebringer]

like poe your role Masq would get lynched near end of the game because it makes no sense for scum to keep your hero alive.

[thenewearth]

Yeah but Rubick was the only one I truly read pre-game

So he's the only one I'd mention

[thenewearth]

Also its worth noting that Rubick is one of my favorite heroes (Particularly because of FY)

[Frozen Angel]

I just finished the games first post

god I hate endgames >.>

[Frozen Angel]

Mod topic is released :

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=90&t=67085

[Frozen Angel]

Username	Hero	Alignment	Level	Abilities	Max Vote Power	Max Vote treshold	Vote Casts	Action Casts
Masquerade		Mafia	3	Dragon Blood Breath Fire	1	+3	7	2
Dunnstral		Mafia	5	Fiery Soul Dragon Slave [2->4] Light Strike Array	2+1	0	11	1
Vedith		Survivor	1	Rot	1	+1	4	1
thenewearth		Town	3	Press the attack Moment of Courage	1	+1	8	0
Fire Assassin		Town	2	Vampiric Aura Mortal strike	1	+1	7	0
hiplop		Town	2	Sprout Nature's Call	1	0	7	0
Radical Rat		Town	5	Enfeeble[2->4] Brain Sap Nightmare	1	+1	12	1
SnarkySnowman		Town	1	Agility [Even cycles]	1	0	0	0
Ircher		Town	1	Fissure	1	+1	14	1
Shiro		Town	2	Crypt Swarm Spirit Siphon	1	+2	5	2

[Masquerade]

Oh in case you are waiting for this, I'm ok with the release of our scumthread so if Dunn is fine with it you can release it.

[Frozen Angel]

Mod Points :

1 . Vedith activated Rot on night 1 but masqeurade (his killer) didn't start day 2 with a vote on himself. The mystery is because of DNAR. according to night action resoloution a kill goes before the rot activation and when some one dies his casted actions will fail.

2 . I'm SO happy nosferatu didn't pick Riki although it was in his draft. (you may see the drafts at mod topic btw) It was a pregame won basically. he just needed to stay alive till day 2 to win ...
Riki is definietly going to change for next runs

3 . I'm sad nature prophet role never got used

4 . I was like near to death scared that masq had +3 vote threshold during day 2. I have something to do with these stuff and I will

5 . Shiro thought that his ability soul siphon will put people in a same naighbour hood. The design of that role is in a way to not letting the dead know the caster is death prophet or the new incoming hero. the designed hero was intended in a way to not put them in same neighbourhood. The wording of role pm was poor and I owe an opplogy to Shiro , hiplop and snarky and the rest of the town respectfully.

6 . As explained Brain sap was designed to let bane transfer even the not visible votes to the caster but moment of courage of legion commander is a passive to get triggered when LC omguses and will only transform the main games (visible) votes of a player. the wording of role pm's were poor again and I owe another apology here.

[Frozen Angel]

Oh in case you are waiting for this, I'm ok with the release of our scumthread so if Dunn is fine with it you can release it.

My policy is to w8 24 hours for any objection before releasing the pt's but if al the involved players confirm its all ok I will publish them sooner

[Frozen Angel]

guys lol upick mafia of RC is in mini themed and will be withdrawed if not filled tonight.

It only require one more player to fill.

I will be thankful if anyone of you sign for it.

and in another note my first large game modded by Fire bringer and me (the dragon age mafia) is signing up (link in my sig) and it needs 8 more players to fill. I will be honored to host another game for you guys.

[thenewearth]

You know you've made it as a MOBA/ARTS player when a dota thread is advertising LoL

[Frozen Angel]

its not about the game itself!

RC is my friend and I don't like the game to be dropped . I don't have lol information myself and I can't play it myself with my own condition

[Radical Rat]

Well, !@#$.

I think this is actually the first game I've played on-site where I was just 100% wrong. Live and learn I suppose.

Still, it was fun, if a bit frustrating at times.
Thanks for the swaggin' setup Frozen, and thanks for making it a good time everyone else.

If it's alright, I'd like to
/pre-in
for the next round.

[Frozen Angel]

I need to count the pre in's omg

[Frozen Angel]

funny thing all the death were from Dire.

No Radiant member died!