Please note that I'll be in Atlantic City until Sunday.Votecount wrote:2 appleof88 (Elmo, Ripley)
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2 wank (Andycyca, Sikario8)
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12 alive; 7 to lynch.
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I like this answer from Glork.Glork wrote:I'm trying to decide if it's indicative of anything... hence the probing questions.
Shanba pretty much answered what I was going for... you ask for explanation to get a sense of motive or thought process. His declaration was obviously not-random, so you have to seek further information yourself.
I want toFoS Shanbasince thats what I figured all three of them had done, just leaped on someone for proclaiming it odd.
I'm personally of the opinion it wasn't indicative of anything in the long run. I would consider it a null tell, unless you really consider it buddying up, or bolstering a scumbuddy... I think Shanba was just attacking someone insitinctively. Not actually sure if this is THAT suspicious of Shanba.
I willVote:Andycycathough. Post 42 is essentially repeating questions, even though they were already answered.
Applesauce and his omgus voting in post 44.FoSUntrod Tripod (7:27:18 PM): you enjoy whoring
xcaykex (7:27:24 PM): yes
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It sounded like a first vote, not a second vote. First votes frequently have little or no reason, or are plain random, or jokey, and are basically made for no other reason than to get things going. But when someonewank wrote:Please elaborate on "felt wrong".changestheir vote, well, there's usually some kind of reason behind the change, because things are already moving, and replacing one silly vote with another is futile. Even if there's no real game reason, there's usuallysomething- even if the change of vote is made just to accompany a witticism. Here there wasnt anything. And also, appleof88 moved his vote to a player who'd been put on 2 votes just three posts earlier, which caught my attention a bit more than it would have otherwise.
Possible motives:
1. Advancing a bandwagon on IH
2. Keeping up up a post count without actually saying anything helpful
3. Establishing himself in our minds as someone who does entirely pointless things, in order to lower our expectations of his play
4. A decision to follow Glork, who looks like being an influential figure in the game.
Of course, he may simply be someone who does entirely pointless things, and had no thought at all beyond basking in the joyful uselessness of the moment, in whuch case he was just acting in character. At this stage, who knows?- IH
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How do you feel my reply is substantially different from Glork's?IH wrote:
I like this answer from Glork.Glork wrote:I'm trying to decide if it's indicative of anything... hence the probing questions.
Shanba pretty much answered what I was going for... you ask for explanation to get a sense of motive or thought process. His declaration was obviously not-random, so you have to seek further information yourself.
I want toFoS Shanbasince thats what I figured all three of them had done, just leaped on someone for proclaiming it odd.
I'm personally of the opinion it wasn't indicative of anything in the long run. I would consider it a null tell, unless you really consider it buddying up, or bolstering a scumbuddy... I think Shanba was just attacking someone insitinctively. Not actually sure if this is THAT suspicious of Shanba.
(10:50:24 PM) xcaykex: GODDAMNIT I DONT WANNA GET RID OF MY TENTACLE RAPE PORN
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wow alot of thought went into that postRipley wrote:
It sounded like a first vote, not a second vote. First votes frequently have little or no reason, or are plain random, or jokey, and are basically made for no other reason than to get things going. But when someonewank wrote:Please elaborate on "felt wrong".changestheir vote, well, there's usually some kind of reason behind the change, because things are already moving, and replacing one silly vote with another is futile. Even if there's no real game reason, there's usuallysomething- even if the change of vote is made just to accompany a witticism. Here there wasnt anything. And also, appleof88 moved his vote to a player who'd been put on 2 votes just three posts earlier, which caught my attention a bit more than it would have otherwise.
Possible motives:
1. Advancing a bandwagon on IH
2. Keeping up up a post count without actually saying anything helpful
3. Establishing himself in our minds as someone who does entirely pointless things, in order to lower our expectations of his play
4. A decision to follow Glork, who looks like being an influential figure in the game.
Of course, he may simply be someone who does entirely pointless things, and had no thought at all beyond basking in the joyful uselessness of the moment, in whuch case he was just acting in character. At this stage, who knows?
but shamefully, no motive behind it, just poops and giggles
i wish i had as stated above, a game plan. makes me look more on edge
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Yeah, I'm surprised that Ripley didn't suggest "5. Hey, it's still the fairly random stage of the game"... did this explanation cross your mind at some point, Ripley?appleof88 wrote:
wow alot of thought went into that postRipley wrote:
It sounded like a first vote, not a second vote. First votes frequently have little or no reason, or are plain random, or jokey, and are basically made for no other reason than to get things going. But when someonewank wrote:Please elaborate on "felt wrong".changestheir vote, well, there's usually some kind of reason behind the change, because things are already moving, and replacing one silly vote with another is futile. Even if there's no real game reason, there's usuallysomething- even if the change of vote is made just to accompany a witticism. Here there wasnt anything. And also, appleof88 moved his vote to a player who'd been put on 2 votes just three posts earlier, which caught my attention a bit more than it would have otherwise.
Possible motives:
1. Advancing a bandwagon on IH
2. Keeping up up a post count without actually saying anything helpful
3. Establishing himself in our minds as someone who does entirely pointless things, in order to lower our expectations of his play
4. A decision to follow Glork, who looks like being an influential figure in the game.
Of course, he may simply be someone who does entirely pointless things, and had no thought at all beyond basking in the joyful uselessness of the moment, in whuch case he was just acting in character. At this stage, who knows?
but shamefully, no motive behind it, just poops and giggles
i wish i had as stated above, a game plan. makes me look more on edge
but nay, just mucking around
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Glork wrote:
Yeah, I'm surprised that Ripley didn't suggest "5. Hey, it's still the fairly random stage of the game"... did this explanation cross your mind at some point, Ripley?appleof88 wrote:
wow alot of thought went into that postRipley wrote:
It sounded like a first vote, not a second vote. First votes frequently have little or no reason, or are plain random, or jokey, and are basically made for no other reason than to get things going. But when someonewank wrote:Please elaborate on "felt wrong".changestheir vote, well, there's usually some kind of reason behind the change, because things are already moving, and replacing one silly vote with another is futile. Even if there's no real game reason, there's usuallysomething- even if the change of vote is made just to accompany a witticism. Here there wasnt anything. And also, appleof88 moved his vote to a player who'd been put on 2 votes just three posts earlier, which caught my attention a bit more than it would have otherwise.
Possible motives:
1. Advancing a bandwagon on IH
2. Keeping up up a post count without actually saying anything helpful
3. Establishing himself in our minds as someone who does entirely pointless things, in order to lower our expectations of his play
4. A decision to follow Glork, who looks like being an influential figure in the game.
Of course, he may simply be someone who does entirely pointless things, and had no thought at all beyond basking in the joyful uselessness of the moment, in whuch case he was just acting in character. At this stage, who knows?
but shamefully, no motive behind it, just poops and giggles
i wish i had as stated above, a game plan. makes me look more on edge
but nay, just mucking around
Also, lulz @ IH.
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I'm not proud of it, just pointing out that in my experience it's actually fairly common.Shanba wrote:
You know, that's not something you're supposed to feel proud of :\Crub wrote:
Never played with a Village Idiot?IH wrote:So you've intentionally posted stupid things so someone wouldn't listen to you?
unvote; vote andy
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Thats the second time you've asked me to comment further on this issue. I gave you a detailed account of my thoughts about appleof88's post 32 in my post 53, and as a result have already been accused of overthinking and "reading too much into things". Quite a nice one-two wank and appleof88 have going there; one gets you to expand on your original post, you oblige by replying in as much detail as you can, then the other attacks you for providing the detail that was requested. Cute.wank wrote:Comments ripley?
Why don'tyoushare some comments of your own with us? So far we've heard exactly nothing from you.
At the start of pretty much any game there's a period where most of the posts are essentially flippant. If we're ever to start catching scum, somebody has to be willing to try to find something suspicious in these early posts, and by definition that something is almost certain to be pretty small, a fact which leaves that player open to attack. The self-righteous brigade invariably kick in with "you're making a mountain out of a molehill" (at this early stage there are only molehills; we have to look at the molehills with suspicion or we'd never get anywhere) - or "He was just joking around", or some such. Another common tactic used to undermine the prodder of molehills is "where's your sense of humor", though happily since appleof88 didn't even attempt a joke in the molehill in question, we've been spared that one this time.
Now consider this sequence:
Ripley, Post 53, final paragraph: of course it's possible that appleof88's post 32 was just random meaningless silliness.
appleof83, Post 63: yeah, it was random meaningless silliness.
Glork, Post 65: Wow, I wonder why it never crossed Ripley's mind that appleof88's post was random meaningless silliness?
appleof83, Post 68: Finally someone understands me!
appleof83, Post 69: (apparently too carried away with joy at being understood to remember that he's voting for me) yeah! FOS Ripley!
I defy anybody to arrange these statements in an order where they make any sense. And just why did Glork see the need to chip in at that stage?
I'm happy to leave my vote on appleof88 at present. He reacted with an OMGUS vote and OMGUS accompanying text which he later said wasn't serious, this making, by his account, three non-serious votes so far, followed by a FOS on the player he's already voting... maybe that theory of establishing himself as a village idiot isn't so far off after all. Oh, and:
Have things truly come to this? That the premier example of an experienced Mafia elder that occurs to a new player is -Sikario8 wrote:not so much that they wouldn't listen to me as much as it was my establishing that i was, in no way, form, or fashion, a Battle Mage or mneme or any other experienced player.Battle Mage? - Ripley
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