Application of WOTC

[Accountant]

p-edit: Do you know how petty it is to kick someone out of the game they were looking forward to for months and would have enjoyed just so you could enjoy it without them?

So because someone acts petty to you, you act petty to them? This behavior isn't becoming of you.

[-Grey-]

I am an un-person, am I right?

Where have I ever said that?

I don't even know you.

I've played in a couple games with your alt account, and you were bearable even if your shtick was a little annoying.

If you had not participated in this thread in the manner that you have, I'd have never known about this persecution complex that you seem to have because you're just one player among thousands to me.

But when you go lashing out at people that aren't even directing their posts specifically at you and making the discussion all about you instead of keeping the topic general in nature, you shape people's opinions of you before they even play a game with you.

[Yume]

Well, if you've been kicked out of nearly every game during the past year, you would have a persecution complex too.

[-Grey-]

Well, if you've been kicked out of nearly every game during the past year, you would have a persecution complex too.

No, I wouldn't.

I'd accept that my behavior was unacceptable and find ways to make amends. I wouldn't blame the world for rejecting me.

[Yume]

Well, if you've been kicked out of nearly every game during the past year, you would have a persecution complex too.

No, I wouldn't.

I'd accept that my behavior was unacceptable and find ways to make amends. I wouldn't blame the world for rejecting me.

Find ways how? If you were kicked out of Large/Mini/Micro queues and nearly every single game they have in sign-ups and it continues and Newbie/Normal/Open queues are too boring for you plus the fact that Newbie Queue doesn't allow alts, how exactly would you find a way to make amends? Enlighten me and I will follow your words of wisdom to the letter

Also keep in mind I don't like being VT when you reply.

[Accountant]

I am not redacting because I don't like them. I am redacting to protect their identity.

This makes absolutely 0 sense.

You're complaining that [redacted] is not getting punished but you are, even though you presumably both flaked. Then you say you're hiding [redacted]'s identity. How the hell are the mods/people reading this/whoever supposed to compare the two cases or tell you why [redacted] was not punished, or best case scenario, WotC [redacted] as well, if you don't tell us who they are?

Of course, that's leaving aside the fact that anyone who's read this thread/seen the threads you make probably knows damn well who [redacted] is, so this is merely a fig leaf to cover up the fact that you're intentionally being petty by refusing to speak their name and essentially acting like they're Voldemort.

[Accountant]

Also keep in mind I don't like being VT when you reply.

How is this the fault of game mods? Why should they design more role madness setups - infamously hard to balance and tricky to run - just because

you personally dislike

being the most common role in mafia?

[Yume]

I am not redacting because I don't like them. I am redacting to protect their identity.

This makes absolutely 0 sense.

You're complaining that [redacted] is not getting punished but you are, even though you presumably both flaked. Then you say you're hiding [redacted]'s identity. How the hell are the mods/people reading this/whoever supposed to compare the two cases or tell you why [redacted] was not punished, or best case scenario, WotC [redacted] as well, if you don't tell us who they are?

Of course, that's leaving aside the fact that anyone who's read this thread/seen the threads you make probably knows damn well who [redacted] is, so this is merely a fig leaf to cover up the fact that you're intentionally being petty by refusing to speak their name and essentially acting like they're Voldemort.

No, we didn't both flake. But he did make a game unpleasant for someone, which, by the post Nexus made, is also a reason to WoTC/punish him. Read my post more carefully next time.

[-Grey-]

Find ways how? If you were kicked out of Large/Mini/Micro queues and nearly every single game they have in sign-ups and it continues and Newbie/Normal/Open queues are too boring for you plus the fact that Newbie Queue doesn't allow alts, how exactly would you find a way to make amends? Enlighten me and I will follow your words of wisdom to the letter

Also keep in mind I don't like being VT when you reply.

Sometimes, you gotta do some things you might not specifically enjoy in order to accomplish something meaningful in life.

If playing in some games that are not specifically to my tastes allowed me to illustrate to the community that I was willing and able to participate in an acceptable manner, I would do so without complaint.

In the words of the great philosopher Jagger: You can't always get what you want.

[Yume]

Also keep in mind I don't like being VT when you reply.

How is this the fault of game mods? Why should they design more role madness setups - infamously hard to balance and tricky to run - just because

you personally dislike

being the most common role in mafia?

Then they should advertise their games in the vein of 'this is a normal game with a few twists' rather than 'this game is different from the rest with complex mechanics, so you should join in'. The second description automatically makes people thing 'role madness'.

[Yume]

Find ways how? If you were kicked out of Large/Mini/Micro queues and nearly every single game they have in sign-ups and it continues and Newbie/Normal/Open queues are too boring for you plus the fact that Newbie Queue doesn't allow alts, how exactly would you find a way to make amends? Enlighten me and I will follow your words of wisdom to the letter

Also keep in mind I don't like being VT when you reply.

Sometimes, you gotta do some things you might not specifically enjoy in order to accomplish something meaningful in life.

If playing in some games that are not specifically to my tastes allowed me to illustrate to the community that I was willing and able to participate in an acceptable manner, I would do so without complaint.

In the words of the great philosopher Jagger: You can't always get what you want.

And how long would you have to participate in those games before site as a whole acknowledges you've improved? Because I tried being active in a game and succeeded and yet I was still being kicked out.

[Papa Zito]

Keep fighting the good fight Yume.

[-Grey-]

And how long would you have to participate in those games before site as a whole acknowledges you've improved? Because I tried being active in a game and succeeded and yet I was still being kicked out.

"A game"?

Did you wreck your reputation in "a game"?

No?

Then why do you expect it to be fixed in "a game"?

When problem behaviors are established over a pattern of games, it will take a pattern of games without those behaviors for redemption.

I'm not going to sit here and dictate your behavior or demand a certain number of anything, because it's not my place to say such things and you need to learn to self-regulate.

[Yume]

Actually, yes, my reputation was ruined in a single game, the one that started this whole vicious circle, back in 2015.

[-Grey-]

Nah, not buying that.

I don't for a second believe any player would be banished from everybody's games over a single bad performance without also just flat getting site banned.

[vonflare]

hey can you guys take this argument to a private topic or something I'm tired of this thread being bumped in my egosearch thx

[-Grey-]

hey can you guys take this argument to a private topic or something I'm tired of this thread being bumped in my egosearch thx

Hi vonflare.

[Accountant]

No, we didn't both flake. But he did make a game unpleasant for someone, which, by the post Nexus made, is also a reason to WoTC/punish him. Read my post more carefully next time.

If the point was a rebel, you'd be a Stormtrooper. Regardless of exactly why that person sucks, we can't address your complaint about how the two of you are treated unequally unless we understand who they are and what they have done.

[Yume]

Nah, not buying that.

I don't for a second believe any player would be banished from everybody's games over a single bad performance without also just flat getting site banned.

And that's what happened.

[Annadog40]

Got any proof?

[Infinity 324]

Yume, all you need to do is post actively and contribute in the games you join. If you can't do that, don't join games. It's really that simple. If you think you'll be able to post actively but can't, that's ok as long as it's not almost every game.

[Yume]

Yume, all you need to do is post actively and contribute in the games you join. If you can't do that, don't join games. It's really that simple. If you think you'll be able to post actively but can't, that's ok as long as it's not almost every game.

Tell that to the people who WoTCed me out of the games I could have played till the end.

[Infinity 324]

Well you're still able to join some games. If you make a pattern of participating in games you play in, then people will probably stop WOTC'ing you.

[Accountant]

She can't because she gets sick every time she plays

[Annadog40]

Maybe the games are the cause of sickness.