Large Normal 201 - House of Harmony - At The End(GAME OVER)

[Alisae]

And why would I defend Garry?

- You scumread ppl for attacking/scumreading him.
- He is on top of you townreads.
Can you explain your townread on him?

Good words coming out of this mouth. Also has some good posts.

Like every post where he comments about getting townread or wanting it

Also they don't really strike me as someone who's scared about getting lynched.

Can you quote me some posts that struck you as towny?

When I wake up tommorw cuz I sorta wanna go to sleep right now. So hold me to that shet.

[Alisae]

You ain't much better then me sucker. Stop thinking you can use other people as an excuse to call me shit.

LMAO I'm not calling him shit. I'm making a refrence to goodsh1t.dek
Also my theory has been shit as of late so....

Tho I agree Jaack had no reason to vote me, considering the lolfull playing of Ram.

LOL WTF

can we lynch alisae or transcend?

Not Voting -

PenguinPower, Lemon Tree, kuror0, ironstove, Elena Fisher, Clumsy

or at least cast votes the fuck already already

Light townread for you that'll probably change later.

[Alisae]

These two posts were supposed to be in opposite order but it doesn't really matter I guess.

The Jaack sh1t case:

I felt really uncomfortable about this slot for most of the game. I nullread it just mostly because tone was wierd. Then I figured that him being null read is sorta puts him a good position.

I can't really explain my tone to you. I mean, you can review the games in my wiki (it is 100% up to date!) to compare if you'd like.

*Jaack note - I am breaking up these paragraphs to respond by point*

He was mostly pushing Ramcius most of the game. Sure he probably has some good points up to where he votes Pep. If anything to me this seems like jumping on the Pep wagon at the wrong time if we consider Pep to be lynchbait. Plus I'm sorta getting the feeling that he doesn't really scumreads Pep as hard as he scumreads Ramcius in that post.

It is accurate that I did not and have never scumread Pepcho as much as I scumread Ramcius. But at the time I switched over to Pepcho, no one else really seemed to be interested in my Ramcius case, at least to the point of voting there. Especially in the first couple of days, I'd rather be voting for a weaker scumread that has traction than a stronger scumread that doesn't.

Also later he mentions something about Pep attempting to save his own skin when he should be trying to push Manuel. Ehh, I would agree if Pep was simply better at videa gamez, but I don't. I know Pep a bit more then ywall, I would probably describe him as a newbie. Still getting the swing of things and he doesn't really seem to know how to exactly deal with people who are SRing him yet alone not get SR'd.

I don't know anything about Pepcho aside from what I've read in this game. If the reason you disagree with my point is because you know pepcho, then you're judging me for not knowing things that I had no reason to know. Furthermore, you accepted my reasoning at the time, and even subsequentially voted pepcho yourself in a couple of pages.

There are enough stickling points where I'm still concerned with pepcho, even if I can see how he might be lynchbait.

I think it's around the time he produces his big readlist he starts to make me feel very uncomfortable. Like if I could put my finger on it, maybe it seemed like he was trying to pocket me in a really indirect fashion? Maybe it was that he was chainsawing me?

I townread you because you're wagon looked like a lazy wagon from RVS that stuck around for way to long. Also I mostly liked what you'd been saying and doing. But more so the first part.

After I convince him to get back on Ram, he starts pushing that again. His points on him are kind of strong.
Not to mention if he gets swayed from one of his scumreads to jump on the other he'll show his support for that lynch. I sorta do this too as town, but it seems hypocritical to attack Ram by saying that he doesn't care where his vote goes where Jaack's own vote acts sorta similarly.

I've been voting my strongest scumread that I think has traction this entire game (well except for my BYF vote I guess. That was because I enjoy manipulating yoshis into self destructing.

1. mkay gimmie a town game or two and a scum game or two.
2. Who the fuck cares if people are interested on your ramcius case? Hell saying this makes you look even more oppertunistic. Instead of trying to convince others to switch wagons you hop on the Pep wagon just because it's gaining speed. Really?
3. Gimmie a citation where I accepted your reasoning. I remember voting him because he slipped and he couldn't explain why he slipped or how I was supposed to intrepret the citation in question as not a slip.
4. Fine, how do I know you aren't trying to pocket me and hide under a reason and/or chainsaw me?
5. I know, I'm starting to think that's SvS. But I'm talking about when you so casually switched from Manuel to Ram. (Mo one blames you for your BYF vote)

[Alisae]

Holy shit, drealmerz is in this?

*ISOs*

That's a scum ISO from drealmerz. I've been playing a lot with him, and I'm calling it. He joins the scumbloc.

Really? Ok. Honestly I think you may know a bit more of drealmerz then I do so I might sheep this read and give him a light scumread. But most of what he has posted has been mostly early game stuff so idunno...
I might put him back to null. Probably gonna do that actually.

[Alisae]

Clum (Rem) town

Gerry Town

Con town

2 bad townreads but I will forgive u for voting iron

Multiball.
Look at Pere's reads and tell me if you like them or not.

[Alisae]

Who's him? What? And yes, I can agree with that.

Why the wtf tho? U drunk or something?

Um he wants the rope on you and a player I think you TR...how does this give you a reason to TR him. I genuinely don't like this post.

1. Jaack. And you aren't getting away with explaining why my theory is shit unless you can say why it is.
2. I do need to see more from the dude, and pine pointed them out so now they're back to null. But ~reasons~. And what's wrong for giving someone a light TR orgionally for them going after my own TRs and myself?

[Alisae]

Look at Pere's reads and tell me if you like them or not

Pere is town prob, but I'll check his reads in a sec

Don't need you to tell me that

[Alisae]

And Garry what is your read on Elena?
pedit: No, I think they are lynchbait

[Alisae]

You don't understand the 2nd because you don't know him.

[Alisae]

BTW Manuel
Garry's good posting:
456, 460, 494, 622, 732, 742, 783, 795, 809, 931, 956, 990, 996

[Alisae]

Yoshi what are your reads?

[Alisae]

Shit photoshop job Garry

[Alisae]

Anyhow Yoshi what have I done to make you feel better about me?

[Alisae]

Shit photoshop job Garry

ur just mad ur not my new best friend

No I'm satly because I actually do do GFX work and i iz pro with photoshop. Look at my pro skillz


I can post more if you want

[Alisae]

Tags:


Steam Avis:

[Alisae]

Wtf this is a mafia game, not animu bae

You just salty cuz you don't have sick Photoshop skillz like me

Who needs photoshop skills when you can design evil setups and let your puppets play them?
-S

[Alisae]

actually shit Pep is gonna start posting his.

[Alisae]

I might as well make an art request thread eventually tho recently I've been really lazy so yeah. In a future near you.

[Alisae]

Clumsy fun assignment. Go ISO your previous slot hold and gimmie your read on them.

[Alisae]

That is when you're done catching up.

[Alisae]

I feel like talking to you is quite useless since I'm very confident in your flip so go on and squirm it'll be fun to watch

Why not interact with your scumread to attempt to prove them wrong and look even more scummier?

At least you have started lowering the saturation, cuz it made your work like cancer artwork from the 90s.

OMGAWD XD
THAT BURN FUCKING HURTS

[Alisae]

So what if it's annoying?

[Alisae]

NVM Elena.
I forgot for a moment you were talking about Pep.

[Alisae]

Do you say that I'm bad? Cuz I'm gonna fight the shit out of you for that! Respect the God pls ^^

Sometimes I end up playing like lynchbait. That doesn't mean you're bad or anything.

[Alisae]

Also ya Photoshop skillz suck ass! I'm better

See this children. This is what we call a lie.

[Alisae]

tbh the last one is kinda decent.
Last are all meh cuz lack of shadows.

[Alisae]

OMGUS!
pedit: MOD PLEASE!

[Alisae]

OMGUS!
pedit: MOD PLEASE!

To who is this directed to?

You voting Elena.

[Alisae]

I'd be down for lynching Pep cosnidering the all kinds of information that that flip would tell us.

[Alisae]

I'd be down for lynching Pep cosnidering the all kinds of information that that flip would tell us.

What kind of information would it give actually?

If you are town, we could analyze the wagon to find out if you're lynchbait or not and who pushed that hard.
If you're scum, it gives me information about someone I'm not listing right now for ~Reasons~

[Alisae]

1317 is up trans.

[Alisae]

dw Pep I'll say why eventually.

[Alisae]

Ay nice 10k posts bro.

[Alisae]

Garry why don't you come onto the Mick wagon

[Alisae]

And those people are?

Lowkey hijacking this post for LEET purposes.

[Alisae]

knowing me I'll get mine in a few months from now or some shit.

[Alisae]

BTW Manuel
Garry's good posting:
456, 622, 742

I already talked about this in my reasoning to scumread gerry.
First he sees no reason why BYF should have so many votes later he scumreads him for something he did before gerrys post where he questioned the votes on BYF.
How do you get a townread from that?

460

Pep already gave his thoughts on Transcends read on him. An attempt to look like he is scumhunting that shows that he probably just skiped over the thread.

494

Defending himself and throwing shade at the same time. What do you like about this post?

732

Also something i had in my reasoning about gerry. I dont like how he calls him lynchbait instead of answering the question.
What exactly do you like about his answer?

783
795
809

What exactly do you like about gerry trying to throw shade on someone that just mentioned a scumread on him?
He asked me about my read on him and i explained it yet he didnt argue about any of the points i made. Instead alle he did was trying to discredit my reads by calling them "artificially and carefully crafted as scum"
I fail to see how that is a towny reaction.

931

I already said that it was similar but not the same. What exactly struck you as towny in this post?

956

He tries to show us his "scumhunting" he shows 3 quotes the 2nd is part of the first so he basically shows us 2 instances of him scumhunting.
Both are reactions to someone scumreading him.

990

What exactly do you like about this post?

996

He throws more shade without showing why he thinks like that by quoting a post that makes him think so.
What do you like about this post?


I look at those posts and see no townmotivation in any of them.

First off it's not a particular post, it's all of his good posting combined to add up to a TR.
you get he's defending himself in 494? I get that he's showing no attempt to defend himself in 494. Mostly because it shows that he doesn't really believe there is pressure on him.
in 732 he answered the question and gave his thoughts on it. Now you're just misrepping him. Sure he may have not said why but given Garry's current posting I don't see him to be the kinda guy that has super content heavy posts.
in 783 I agree with him that your SR on him came out of nowhere. in 795 +809 he has a good case on you and he's trying to convince people that he thinks you are scum and he wants to get you lynched. To me that looks like scumhunting.
I forget why I included 931 in there. But that answer doesn't seem to be scummy for me. Maybe it's just a good response.
990 I like his focus on someone he is SRing.
996 is a good post because he's basicly saying that your pushes are fake and I agree with that.

[Alisae]

you get he's defending himself in 494? I get that he's showing no attempt to defend himself in 494. Mostly because it shows that he doesn't really believe there is pressure on him.

He starts with "It wasnt me" thats already a defence in my books. If he doesnt care about it why is he scumreading everyone that mentions a scumread on him?

in 732 he answered the question and gave his thoughts on it. Now you're just misrepping him. Sure he may have not said why but given Garry's current posting I don't see him to be the kinda guy that has super content heavy posts.

No instead of giving a read on Pep he calls him lynchbait. What does that mean? This looks like he is giving an answer when he is actually not.

in 783 I agree with him that your SR on him came out of nowhere. in 795 +809 he has a good case on you and he's trying to convince people that he thinks you are scum and he wants to get you lynched. To me that looks like scumhunting.

What exactly is good about his case on me? To me that looks like OMGUS. His "scumhunting" is only directed at ppl that mention a scumread on him.

I forget why I included 931 in there. But that answer doesn't seem to be scummy for me. Maybe it's just a good response.

So you are satisfied with him saying "lol i am town roflmao" every time he gets the chance because he thinks its funny? I dont get the joke maybe you can explain to me whats funny about it?

990 I like his focus on someone he is SRing.

Again he is just reacting to someone voting him. What about this is scumhunting?

996 is a good post because he's basicly saying that your pushes are fake and I agree with that.

I welcome everybody to show me where my reasoning on him is wrong yet noone did so up to this point. All i get is "your case is bad/scummy" but noone shows me where my case is bad.
Feel free to be the first one to show me an argument why you disagree with the points i made on him.

1. Fine to the first part. To the second maybe it's because he felt like scum was attempting to push him?
2. What made you think I was asking specificly for a read? Tho to be fair, that is a good point.
3. Maybe he's just paranoid? Hey, I have an idea. Let's ask Garry. And I just like the case cuz I also feel like your SR on him was fabricated.
4. You're basicly attempting to pin him down for someone that was dismissed earlier as not meant to be AI.
5. He's making his SR look worse.
6. Huh...Now that you point out that observation that is wierd. It's sorta like what Garry is saying about Ironstove. I guess...



Hey Garry, reads please.

[Alisae]

Everyone

[Alisae]

Why is Kuror0 up there with Elena?

[Alisae]

Responding to my own quotes.
1. I believe he was taking the initiative with his case on you and the reaching to see if anyone will follow
2. Fair. TBH I did sorta want a read, but I asked what made you think I assumed for it. I also do find it wierd he never really gave me a read.
3. ok
4. ok I just disagree.
5. Yeah he did.

[Alisae]

A lot of Alisae's posts around 600-700 look good on the surface, but something is rubbing me wrong there. Feels like scum trying to look like they're game solving, but asking questions that don't lead anywhere or can just be used to throw shade.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

[Alisae]

That legit feels like a reason to say "Hey, I just want to find a reason to SR someone."

[Alisae]

A lot of Alisae's posts around 600-700 look good on the surface, but something is rubbing me wrong there. Feels like scum trying to look like they're game solving, but asking questions that don't lead anywhere or can just be used to throw shade.

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

You remind me of me

ikr

[Alisae]

{drealmerz7, PeregrineV, kuror0, Gamma Emerald, PenguinPower, Lemon Tree}

That's an enormous and terrible null pool btw

And it's also from 20+ pages ago, where most of them haven't posted more than a handful of times. Be patient, jeez

ooooooh ok

[Alisae]

743 is his case on Iron.
And idunno if his reaction upon your SR on him was to SR you. Timing just seemed to be interesting. Also another thing I want to mention is I don't remember Garry TRing you before you came up with your SR on him.

pedit: Yeah Clums

[Alisae]

13 pages to go.

THIS EXPLAINS EVERYTHING!

[Alisae]

Clumsy give me a case on me, Pep, Yoshi, and Iron.

[Alisae]

Nah Clums. Get some sleep if you need it. I want you to come at me full power.

[Alisae]

Have you considered the possibility that I know Pep a bit more then you do?
I'll go read through it.
No the fact you're not trying to push anything concerns me.

[Alisae]

All my TRs want Ironstove...
Am I missing something?
Like he's on V/LA...

[Alisae]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

[Alisae]

Transcend plays with me the most on and off this site. I think you should trust his read on me if you TR him

I play with Alisae off site and I can tell ya...this bitch still is almost unreadable to me day 1 lol.

That was before I came here

You are still the same ol' bote tho.

Smarter and more educated then I was months ago.

[Alisae]

Not answering that question till post game.

[Alisae]

I don't know much about the iron wagon, and I'm lazy to read his ISO atm. Tho I highly belive it might be lynchbait. If so, there are at least 2 scum on it. I see my top 2 scumreads on it, so I'm not sold out on the iron wagon.

You don't have a life and it's like 12 posts or something.
Go ISO it.

[Alisae]

Alright...Yeah, considering Pep's response to it, I think I might consider an ironstove wagon even more now.

At first Pep was like "Eh, I don't really wanna do it, he's probably lynchbait" which comes off as "eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scumbuddy."
Then I tell him to do it and he has no excuse.
And now he's like "Eh, he's scummy I guess but I rather lynch Clum and Elena more."
To me this comes across as he never really cared about Ironstove until he was forced to take a stance on it.
Yeah no.

[Alisae]

Just because ywall are lynchbait does not make ywall town aligned.

[Alisae]

Clumsy I got a bed time story for you.

The cats nestle close to their kittens now.
The lambs have laid down with the sheep.
You’re cozy and warm in your bed, my dear.
Please go the fuck to sleep.

The windows are dark in the town, child.
The whales huddle down in the deep.
I’ll read you one very last book if you swear
You’ll go the fuck to sleep.

The eagles who soar through the sky are at rest
And the creatures who crawl, run, and creep.
I know you’re not thirsty. That’s bullshit. Stop lying.
Lie the fuck down, my darling, and sleep.

The wind whispers soft through the grass, hon.
The field mice, they make not a peep.
It’s been thirty-eight minutes already.
Jesus Christ, what the fuck? Go to sleep.

All the kids from day care are in dreamland.
The froggie has made his last leap.
Hell no, you can’t go to the bathroom.
You know where you can go? The fuck to sleep.

The owls fly forth from the treetops.
Through the air, they soar and they sweep.
A hot crimson rage fills my heart, love.
For real, shut the fuck up and sleep.

The cubs and the lions are snoring,
Wrapped in a big snuggly heap.
How is it you can do all this other great shit
But you can’t lie the fuck down and sleep?

The seeds slumber beneath the earth now
And the crops that the farmers will reap.
No more questions. This interview’s over.
I’ve got two words for you, kid: fucking sleep.

The tiger reclines in the simmering jungle.
The sparrow has silenced her cheep.
Fuck your stuffed bear, I’m not getting you shit.
Close your eyes. Cut the crap. Sleep.

The flowers doze low in the meadows
And high on the mountains so steep.
My life is a failure, I’m a shitty-ass parent.
Stop fucking with me, please, and sleep.

The giant pangolins of Madagascar are snoozing.
As I lie here and openly weep.
Sure, fine, whatever, I’ll bring you some milk.
Who the fuck cares? You’re not gonna sleep.

This room is all I can remember.
The furniture crappy and cheap.
You win. You escape. You run down the hall.
As I nod the fuck off, and sleep.

Bleary and dazed I awaken
To find your eyes shut, so I keep
My fingers crossed tight as I tiptoe away
And pray that you’re fucking asleep.

We’re finally watching our movie.
Popcorn’s in the microwave. Beep.
Oh shit. Goddamn it. You’ve gotta be kidding.
Come on, go the fuck back to sleep.

[Alisae]

Pep I think you're swimming up a river named Denial.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Ironstove
Yeah, I'm down for this now BECUASE of Pep.

[Alisae]

And even if this flips town, we could probably look back at the earlier wagons and see who tried to push it right away.

[Alisae]

Ay Pep.
Did you know,
that I'm a Noivce 1-Shot Desperado.
You know what this means?
This means if you're town, I'm going to die.
And if you're scum, you are going to die.

Bombard: Pepchoninga

[Alisae]

Pep or I iz gun git rekt

[Alisae]

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE

[Alisae]

I mean yours not mine.

[Alisae]

So is Pep lmao

[Alisae]

Pep is Ded.
Like Zed.
Cuz Zed is Ded bby.

[Alisae]

Pep, my desperado is real.

[Alisae]

Cuz it happens at the end of the day.

[Alisae]

Anything you would like to tell the town before one of us dies?

[Alisae]

Yeah Pep, you can give us your reads atleast, maybe we can use those to find the scum on the other team!

[Alisae]

Yeah this is scum!Pep.
I feel like once scum!pep has been caught he just ignores the thread.
I feel like town!Pep would have rubbed it in my face some more.

[Alisae]

The desperado is still real so it should work out in the end.

[Alisae]

/me highfives Pine

[Alisae]

Yes Pep, it's fake. Key word in that shot is the word Novice.
Someone that is a Novice can't use their abilities N1/D1

[Alisae]

Ay Pep.
Did you know,
that I'm a Noivce 1-Shot Desperado.
You know what this means?
This means if you're town, I'm going to die.
And if you're scum, you are going to die.

Bombard: Pepchoninga

Why aren't you ded den o_O

Pep Believing it

Cuz it happens at the end of the day.

You for real? I know you like to fake things.

AND NOW YOU'RE CALLING IT FAKE
LOLOLOLOLOL
BULLSHIT.

[Alisae]

Yeah this is scum!Pep.
I feel like once scum!pep has been caught he just ignores the thread.
I feel like town!Pep would have rubbed it in my face some more.

I was eating ffs! >.<

Also yeah, faking your actions all the time just make you look more and more dumb. Scum pep doesn't do shit like thst, sorry.

It's a meme child.
Adapt.

[Alisae]

Yeah Iron, if you were town I would believe that you would attempt to catch up on what you missed, address people's concerns that they have about you, then attempt to redirect your pressure somewhere else. You aren't doing that.

[Alisae]

But Dad!

[Alisae]

Yeah Iron, if you were town I would believe that you would attempt to catch up on what you missed, address people's concerns that they have about you, then attempt to redirect your pressure somewhere else. You aren't doing that.

I said I'm going to do it tomorrow when I get home, I'm interacting with people right now that are responding to me at this very moment.

You're also making yourself look worse while you do that.

[Alisae]

Hai frog, you're at L-1 and I'm gonna hammer if you don't respond.

Why u always lyin'

And why you ruining the reaction test.

[Alisae]

Kinda disappointed we're escaping rvs and didn't get a large wagon from it. O well. Maybe next massive ass game.

Let's fix that

VOTE: Yoshi

If you're town vote for Yoshi.

If you're mafia, then don't.

Ughhhhh, ok, now I see. His RVS posting is lolfull. If he flips red, I'm SRing Yoshi.

In the words of Alisae:

WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?

Don't worry, just a meme.

No, it's not a meme. Your pre-flip association is shit.
Not to mention it forgets to consider fucking MULTIBALL

[Alisae]

VOTE: clumsy

Been reading. This dude is scum

At the very least, clumsy and iron don't appear to be aligned (just ISO clumsy and you'll see what I mean)

FINALLY SOMEONE AKNOWLEDGES HOW SCUMMY THE DUDE IS.

We've all been doing it...
We just haven't been voting there yet.

[Alisae]

Watchu wanna talk about Frogger? I'm trying to do catchup of what I missed over night.

[Alisae]

Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.

[Alisae]

I know right, he's absolutely disgusting.

[Alisae]

/me offers you a beer.

I don't like em.
I don't really think he's done anything to improve the slot of the previous placeholder.
Also their SR on me feels like he has to come up with an SR on me for some reason. It's like "Ehhhhhhh, they're doing town things but they're scum."

[Alisae]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

[Alisae]

Wat -_-
That's awkward...

[Alisae]

Here, let me get chu some tea.
/me gets you some tea.
Frogs like tea?
I like tea.

Beer please.

Oh yeah, I like you even more now! All hail beer!

You're underaged.

[Alisae]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

Bad and wrong. I said that iron seem like he could be lynchbait since my 2 top scumreads were on his wagon. Also I hadn't seen much from the guy. Then I read his ISO and saw why y'all vote him. He is scummy. But not nearly as scummy as the Ram slot and Elena. So please.

It's multiball. You're forgetting that your SRs could be genuinely catchign scum.

[Alisae]

Also I remember him saying that he didn't really want to push anyone at one time, which sorta looks bad.

pedit: I don't think he's scummy for voting iron, most of my TRs are also on it keep in mind and I hopped on after my reaction test with Pep cuz Pep was like "Ehh, I don't really wanna ISO them, and I think they're lynchbait" and then they say that they're scummy and to me that comes off as "Eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scum buddy"
What is your opinion on Mack + Pep.

Also yeah I'll wagon them with you
VOTE: Clumsy

Bad and wrong. I said that iron seem like he could be lynchbait since my 2 top scumreads were on his wagon. Also I hadn't seen much from the guy. Then I read his ISO and saw why y'all vote him. He is scummy. But not nearly as scummy as the Ram slot and Elena. So please.

It's multiball. You're forgetting that your SRs could be genuinely catchign scum.

I'm not. I said that iron IS scummy. I'm not excluding the possibility of him being scum and my scumreads hunting him. But I find both Elena and Clumsy more scummy. Hence I think they are a better lynch day 1.

You know what Multiball even is, right?

[Alisae]

Jaack has one maf game and in that maf game he didn't bus.
Reason why I asked for his other games was to see if he was a busser.
So far I think he could have attempted to bus Pep, but I dunno if that's the case or not.

[Alisae]

shameless prodge. I will catch up tonight or probably tomorrow cuz I'm way too tired

You're at L-1

[Alisae]

Town

[Alisae]

btw @Pine is it normal for drealmerz to lurk?

[Alisae]

The two posts above me are Beatlejuice

[Alisae]

#rippagetop

[Alisae]

any content you would like to give?
pedit: DO IT LMAO

[Alisae]

got any SRs atleast?

[Alisae]

Oh, your vote is still on me.

[Alisae]

Also ya got any TRs?

[Alisae]

How do I imagine things again? Like this:

[Alisae]

Or like this:

[Alisae]

love you drealmerz.

[Alisae]

who?

[Alisae]

who?

[Alisae]

Thanks for giving me a new show to watch
pedit: FLCL came out exactly in the year 2000. I also know Revolutionary Girl Utena. Also I saw Grave of the Fireflies with my dad and that was an interesting experience.
Also I've been meaning to get to Neon Genesis Evangelion for awhile now.

[Alisae]

Okey!

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

the best part about that gif is the unregistered hypercam part lmao

[Alisae]

You don't need to remind me of how much a dick mario is. XD

[Alisae]

Yoshi it's a bit big, hold on I got PS open, I'll resize it for you.

[Alisae]

And for some reason Yoshi when I resized in in photoshop there was a white border that ruined everything, #RIP
Let me try somethin else.
Also new avi for me

[Alisae]

Alright here you go Yoshi:

[Alisae]

Frogger this is most of what Clumsy is saying atm

Am I right, or am I right?

[Alisae]

Elena what do you make of the Clumsy wagon?

It's the counter wagon to scum. Simple really

So who's scum on the Clumsy wagon?

Can I answer this?

[Alisae]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

[Alisae]

I think I'm also one of the few people that actually is SRing the Jaack slot.

[Alisae]

{me}
{Trans, Pine, Frogger, Pere, Garry, Yoshi}
{Elena}
{Lemon, Manuel, Kuror0}
{Gamma, Iron, Drealmerz}
{Mick, Clum}
{Pep}

[Alisae]

I asked Elena about who is scum on the Clumsy wagon. You asked to answer (and did, which is stupid because I asked Elena). Then Manuel asked Transcend.

Was just funny it all happened at once

She's still obligated to answer the question, right?
Quite frankly if she doesn't answer because I answered that's scummy.

[Alisae]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

[Alisae]

Alright here you go Yoshi:

Make me a cool gif avatar too. I'm starting to get bored by Micky.

I don't make them lmao

[Alisae]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

No the reaction was out of character for you.

[Alisae]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

[Alisae]

tbh I don't like how Pine is lining up lynches, but I sorta wanna do the same considering I have some pretty strong scumreads (tbh I think drealmerz is scummier then I just listed him to be thinking about it a bit more and should be a lot lower with mick and clum).

pedit: CABD! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI!

[Alisae]

Yo I'm a mason with Cabd

OMGAWD I LIKE HOW YOU REPLACE IN WHEN I SAY THIS AS THE FIRST LINE LOL XD.

I CAN SEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE FUUUUUUUUUUTRE

[Alisae]

Pep you only have one game completed on this site, no?

[Alisae]

tbh I don't like how Pine is lining up lynches, but I sorta wanna do the same considering I have some pretty strong scumreads (tbh I think drealmerz is scummier then I just listed him to be thinking about it a bit more and should be a lot lower with mick and clum).

pedit: CABD! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI! HI!

Drealmerz is my strongest town read

Really? I don't think this is his towngame lmao. It's mostly off of gut tho not to mention the beatlejuice thingy.

[Alisae]

While I go dig and do #research
from what I heard, he does a lot more tunneling and posts a lot more.
Like he becomes a PL lynch basicly. I'll go get some games tho, but I think Pine might have some better examples since I think he played with drealmerz a bit more.

[Alisae]

wat...I don't get it...
I mean, I think obvscum Pep is on it, but I also think Jaack is scum that's on that wagon.

How am I obvscum tho? I contributed to the game a lot more then half of the players and put myself in the open too much? Do you think that's my scum game?

The Desperado Reaction test claims all the souls of poor, innocent Peps.

That reaction test was bad? Why? Because you did it out of all context. Also, my reaction was perfectly fine. I truly belived it and was calm about it. If it was real, you were a dead man. This would clear me and give weight to my opinion on the game. In turn we get a conftown. Was it a good option? Probably. Was it the best? Not.

No the reaction was out of character for you.

How's that?

The way you origonally responded to it seemed like you were giving up scum. tbh I expected you to rub it in my face a bit more that I killed myself to attempt to kill you.

[Alisae]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

Ummm, I was "ignoring" the thread for like an hour at best. I belive I can do that without being suspicious, right? Or I suspect that me having launch with my mom is scummy as fuck.

I did belive it, but I also have seen your fake claims enough times to not fully belive you. That's why I asked the mod. Knowing you, I belive my actions were the best I could've made in this situation. Now don't be a bitch about an hour and go get some actual arguments.

oh now you come up with an excuse! Nice!
You believe it, but you don't fully believe it? WTF child. It's either you do or you don't.

[Alisae]

While I go dig and do #research
from what I heard, he does a lot more tunneling and posts a lot more.
Like he becomes a PL lynch basicly. I'll go get some games tho, but I think Pine might have some better examples since I think he played with drealmerz a bit more.

Wait, so you're saying this isn't his town game without actually knowing if it's his town game?

I skimmed them awhile back. Here have some games.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=69509
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69351

pedit: kay comin up. They're all towngames.

[Alisae]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69290 - First game on site
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=69704

Replaced in for the last two:
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=69588
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=69420

[Alisae]

I have no maf games completed on site.

[Alisae]

LOL THE MOD LOCKED THE THREAD JUST FOR IT

[Alisae]

Also you legit ignored the thread after you saw it and I mentioned it was at the end of the day. Then you suddenly appear again and say that it's fake?
Yeah no.
You're scum.

Ummm, I was "ignoring" the thread for like an hour at best. I belive I can do that without being suspicious, right? Or I suspect that me having launch with my mom is scummy as fuck.

I did belive it, but I also have seen your fake claims enough times to not fully belive you. That's why I asked the mod. Knowing you, I belive my actions were the best I could've made in this situation. Now don't be a bitch about an hour and go get some actual arguments.

oh now you come up with an excuse! Nice!
You believe it, but you don't fully believe it? WTF child. It's either you do or you don't.

I didn't come with an excuse baby, I'm just a humanz being dat niids fuud. Like cmon, I don't live here. If you don't belive it don't. If you do, stop using it as your only shitty argument ~.~

So you decide to attack the excuse part instead of the 2nd part, which is a lot more important?
Ok.

[Alisae]

I have no maf games completed on site.

So, without compromising any ongoing games, you just think this is not his towngame because why???

He's not tunneling anyone.

[Alisae]

Like, if he's town he becomes PL-able.

[Alisae]

atleast that's how I understand it.

[Alisae]

Okaaaaaaaaay, now you're just confusing me.

pedit: Okay so you believed it but it seemed fishy to you. There's something with this sentence, I can't figure it out.

[Alisae]

Oh wait, I the the word I am looking for starts with a C and ends with ONSISTENCY!

[Alisae]

OH WAIT! THE WORD I AM LOOKING FOR IS "CONSISTENCY" ALL ALONG! SILLY ME! LOL ECKS DEE!

[Alisae]

Anyway Frogger, if you scumread me, I'm going to have to ask for a case.

[Alisae]

It's foundation Frogger. I'm not pushing it that hard because Meta is all I have currently, but it's a slot that I'm concerned about it, let's just say that.

[Alisae]

Oh wait, I the the word I am looking for starts with a C and ends with ONSISTENCY!

Really? It's not C and ends with ABD? I'm sad now.

CABD PLZ DON'T LET THIS RUIN OUR FRIENDSHIP!
Forgive me plz ;~;
I demand forgiveness and petting as a loli.

[Alisae]

Also Cabd, I saw the future. Are you proud of me?

[Alisae]

Pep you're actually starting to make sense now and I like it.

[Alisae]

Also Cabd, I saw the future. Are you proud of me?

Whi do you try and be friends with everybody but are a dick the person you've known for almost 4 years?

I knew you for 4 years!
Dam. 4 years of my life just go #wasted.
jk
I don't think it was 4, maybe 2. but no 4.

[Alisae]

Cuz I'ma bully

[Alisae]

Manuel gimmie your reads right now please.

[Alisae]

^I can't wait till this slot flips scum^
pedit: god dammit frogger you sniped me. This was meant to be below Clum's post.
pedit: Now pep sniped me. ffs.

[Alisae]

How a frogger catches scum:

[Alisae]

Here you go Pep

[Alisae]

Clumsy you are going too much on the defensive. You are also trying to shift attention in a bad way.

What frogger is asking you to do, is what you should do if you are town.

I'm going to echo this

[Alisae]

it means you posted a good post. Good job.

[Alisae]

I look forward to your rainbow list Manuel.

pedit: You're isomorphic to Micky man. It characterizes you perfectly.

[Alisae]

[Alisae]

I'm not enthused by Clumsy or iron ropings though. Not enough to actively stop them, but enough to not vote that way for the time being.

Huh...What is this then?

Gear,

vanilla townie

, was lynched day 5.

Pedit: i like wagons. The woof woof needs to advance.

VOTE: IRONSTOVE

[Alisae]

Mick wagon still owns but I'll just vig him tonight.

Forgot to quote this post. This one is sorta important too.

[Alisae]

Yeah I do Cabd, it's a newbie where I play terribly.

[Alisae]

Fair enough.

[Alisae]

Also Trans new avi. You like or nah?

[Alisae]

Hey Ironstove. I like how you call me out for voting you. It's cute considering it's
A. OMGUS
B. In that readlist I had you paired up with Pep.
C. I specificly mention voting you because of Pep.

[Alisae]

How about this Iron, give me an actual case instead of cherrypicking one thing you didn't like.

[Alisae]

Hey Ironstove. I like how you call me out for voting you. It's cute considering it's
A. OMGUS
B. In that readlist I had you paired up with Pep.
C. I specificly mention voting you because of Pep.

Why did you townread him then what made you change your mind to voting him?

I townread him origonally with the mindset of him being lynchbait like Pep, but then Pep started whiteknighting him.

[Alisae]

Hey Ironstove. I like how you call me out for voting you. It's cute considering it's
A. OMGUS
B. In that readlist I had you paired up with Pep.
C. I specificly mention voting you because of Pep.

Why did you townread him then what made you change your mind to voting him?

I townread him origonally with the mindset of him being lynchbait like Pep, but then Pep started whiteknighting him.

Where?

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... start=1450
That whole page up to the point where I vote Iron.

[Alisae]

THIS GUY. LOL

I KNOW RIGHT

THAT MAKES THREE OF US

ONE OF US
ONE OF US
ONE OF US

[Alisae]

Trans do you think that both teams would dump all of their eggs to lynch Pep?
Cuz he's getting SR'd by a LOT of people.

[Alisae]

Also one thing that has me concerned is that Pep is being SR'd by a lot of people. Maybe I'm just overthinking it tbh

[Alisae]

Alisae I'm not seeing the WK but maybe I'm just missing it on catch up?

You know what a WK is right? Usually scum WK town. Not one scum to their buddy.

And aren't you the one who said preflip associations are bad?

Okay fine, Pine thought it was a whiteknight and I sorta agreed with him.
It was moreso Pep didn't really put any effort into reading Ironstove or didn't really want to show any until I told Pep to go ISO him. Like he didn't want to bring attention to someone who could be his buddy.
But yeah, I am the one who said pre-flip associations are bad. Congrats, you caught me.

[Alisae]

@Alisae -- You thought pep WK'd his own buddy?

I see it being a possibility.

[Alisae]

So why is that a White Knight?

It's like you know iron's alignment...

"I like to use buzzwords but not know what they mean or how they work"
explain how that's a slip please.

[Alisae]

Also funny thing. Pine made a lot of fuss about how obvscum I am and he is gone.

If he did suddenly show it up would be beatlejuice now.

Also one thing that has me concerned is that Pep is being SR'd by a lot of people. Maybe I'm just overthinking it tbh

Do you still think I'm obvscum?

Also why does that concirn you that much?

Idunno getting mixed feelings.
And it concerns me because it just feels awkward.

[Alisae]

Trans I'll lynch Mack or Jaack out of those you mentioned. I wanna give Cabd's slot a bit more time.

[Alisae]

So why is that a White Knight?

It's like you know iron's alignment...

"I like to use buzzwords but not know what they mean or how they work"
explain how that's a slip please.

I never said it's a slip.

I said why do you think it's a WK? It makes no sense

Pep caught me. I basicly decided to sheep Pine's reasoning as well as provide my own. Pine thought it was a WK so I sheeped that, but I also added to it that Pep didn't really feel like bringing attention to Iron at first but then when he was forced to he was like "ehh, he's scummy but not as scummy as my other scumreads" which honestly might be a perfectly normal reaction.

Honestly I'm starting to get more townvibes from Pep...

[Alisae]

Trans I'll lynch Mack or Jaack out of those you mentioned. I wanna give Cabd's slot a bit more time.

Reads list plz

{me}
{Trans, Pine, Frogger, Pere, Garry, Yoshi}
{Elena, Manuel, Pep}
{Cabd}
{Kuror0}
{Gamma, Iron, Drealmerz}
{Mick, Clum}

[Alisae]

Yeah Manuel, ever since our interactions I feel like I've been getting gut towny vibes from you.

[Alisae]

Yo nerds, ywall down for a flashwagon on Jaack?

Pine has some towny posts. But my stronger TR comes from that one moment where he asked where he should vote and I told him to get his own reads.

The Gamma read, I don't usually see shitposting from him to the extent he did so within the first few pages, so it made me feel like he was scum trying to blend in with what was going on at the time.

I feel like Mick hopped on the early Ironstove wagon at a really bad time. Not to mention I don't like their interaction with Garry.

pedit: Manuel yeah I did, but Pine also said that Pep was WKing Iron.

[Alisae]

VOTE: Jaack
Cho Cho motherfuckers.

[Alisae]

oh yeah frogger forgot Jaack in that readlist.
Jaack is with Mack and Clum.

[Alisae]

Frogger I do believe Clum needs rope, but I wanna pressure the Jaack slot. That slot hasn't been pressured that much for majority of the game.
1144 should be my case on Jaack.

[Alisae]

Manuel if you thought I meant paired with Mack and Clum, I didn't mean that. I mean with them in the readlist.

[Alisae]

Oh yeah I forgot about that AtE...

Clum has had enough pressure on him for a bit. And we can jump back to him for a bit. Right now I want pressure on the Jaack slot.
Vote him or defend him.

Frogger I'm not against a Clum lynch, it's just the Jaack slot is in a REALLY good position right now. Like they're mostly been unpressured throughout most of the game. So I want to put it in a state of volunerability, ya get me?

[Alisae]

You're calling me hopping off a Clum wagon resisting it even tho I'm okay with a lynch on it, just want to pressure a really unpressured slot before hopping back on?
Yeah no, shut the fuck up.

pedit: I am not letting him off the hook at all, and if he needs to be put back on the hook I can gladly do that, but right now I want to Pressure Jaack.
Why are you so against pressuring Jaack?

[Alisae]

If you are against a flashwagon on Jaack defend him.
If not vote him.
It's that simple really.

[Alisae]

@alise, how did I go from being lynch bait from your POV earlier on to being sorted into your scum pool? You never explained that transition in your iso

Alright...Yeah, considering Pep's response to it, I think I might consider an ironstove wagon even more now.

At first Pep was like "Eh, I don't really wanna do it, he's probably lynchbait" which comes off as "eh, I don't really wanna bring attention to my scumbuddy."
Then I tell him to do it and he has no excuse.
And now he's like "Eh, he's scummy I guess but I rather lynch Clum and Elena more."
To me this comes across as he never really cared about Ironstove until he was forced to take a stance on it.
Yeah no.

[Alisae]

You're calling me hopping off a Clum wagon resisting it even tho I'm okay with a lynch on it, just want to pressure a really unpressured slot before hopping back on?
Yeah no, shut the fuck up.

pedit: I am not letting him off the hook at all, and if he needs to be put back on the hook I can gladly do that, but right now I want to Pressure Jaack.
Why are you so against pressuring Jaack?

nice scum reaction like all your other posts.

And your case is, where exactly?

[Alisae]

Trans you gun git rekt

[Alisae]

You're calling me hopping off a Clum wagon resisting it even tho I'm okay with a lynch on it, just want to pressure a really unpressured slot before hopping back on?
Yeah no, shut the fuck up.

Ok fuck you. You're just posturing to be on any fucking wagon you want.

"I'm crying scum not getting the lynch they want, look at me cry."
You're still not answering the question of why you are so against a Jaack wagon.

[Alisae]

Trans I really wanted to TR Froggy, but fruit for thought:
Froggy is on the other scumteam trying to push for Clum's lynch who they genuinely believe is scum.

[Alisae]

"I'm crying scum not getting the lynch they want, look at me cry."
You're still not answering the question of why you are so against a Jaack wagon.

You're a piece of shit and the exact reason I left this site in the first place. I didn't start the curse war. You did.

I said you made a good case on Jaack but that was your only good case all game and I'm not going to join a wagon with someone I don't trust (read: you) especially in lieu of a Clumsy lynch which is far more obvious.

So it's bad I want to pressure a slot that has had no pressure all game?

[Alisae]

Actually in fact, I wanna pressure Jaack and then lynch Clum just to see what he flips now for VCA reasons. I think one scumteam could have been attempting to push him lmao.

[Alisae]

Yeah I thought so too.
But it's like Froggy is trying to avoid pressuring the Jaack slot altogether cuz he's complaining that his wagon has resistance. Why do you think that is?

[Alisae]

"I'm crying scum not getting the lynch they want, look at me cry."
You're still not answering the question of why you are so against a Jaack wagon.

You're a piece of shit and the exact reason I left this site in the first place. I didn't start the curse war. You did.

I said you made a good case on Jaack but that was your only good case all game and I'm not going to join a wagon with someone I don't trust (read: you) especially in lieu of a Clumsy lynch which is far more obvious.

So it's bad I want to pressure a slot that has had no pressure all game?

That's not what I said at all, but if you want to put words in my mouth go ahead.

I'm not saying thats what you said. I'm asking you a question lmao

[Alisae]

Iron I'm still waiting for that case which is, where exactly?

[Alisae]

Huh you think I'm tunneling?
Alright, I'll step back then.
It's just I really want to pressure that slot.
What is your opinion about the Jaack slot?

[Alisae]

Iron I'm still waiting for that case which is, where exactly?

I already explained very clearly why I think you are scum

1. You have not done any real scum hunting, your ISO is all spam of meme pictures and shit posts

2. You have no consistency in your reads and your transitions feel unnatural

3. You overall tone and interpretation of the game makes me feel like you're not town

1. Is misrepresentation and just a lie. Go actually read my ISO kay thanks.
2. What transitions for reads do you want explained?
3. So you're calling how I play the game scummy? Um...Okay? I don't really think this is a good reason but alright lmao.

[Alisae]

Huh you think I'm tunneling?
Alright, I'll step back then.
It's just I really want to pressure that slot.
What is your opinion about the Jaack slot?

Why are you backing down? Are you scared now because you're getting FOS'd? Stop playing scum like such an obvious coward.

I'm backing down because tunneling is an unhealthy thing to be doing?
I don't give a shit if you fos me. Quite frankly your reasons for fosing me are shit.

[Alisae]

With that said, I'ma go to sleep now and I'll reply to stuff in the morning when I wake up. Should probably also take this time to chill.