In post 97, Dunnstral wrote:You don't seem fazed at all by my claim. Shouldn't it change the basis of your case on me?
It's less I'm unfazed by your claim and more I had to walk away to not flame the fuck out of all the claimers. UNVOTE:
In the timeless words of a great and revered man: "Blow it out your ass."
A hydra of Rift Adrift, Oil Tycoons and Trust Fund. "In the Oil Rift we Trust."
@Syry- My thought process was actually twofold. The chance of it actually being a scumslip was slim, but what I was curious about is at worst it IS a scumslip and at best it says he thinks town have reasons to lie in a mass flavorclaim, or any massclaim at all and that needs to be addressed now rather than later. Town have no reason to lie. At all.
I swear if either of you two bring up that 4 letter name I will smite you
Town have no reason to lie, scum do. Simple as that.
possibly charloux
possibly dunn (haven't really explained this one, but I'll give him a 'just left of center' townread for being sensible about 'us-gate', and syr's comments about him are not in play due to his softclaim about votes)
In post 103, Seiko x Naomi wrote:it says he thinks town have reasons to lie in a mass flavorclaim, or any massclaim at all
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Why'dja post this? Are ya sleepy?
And why's Syr town? Even if ya buy his train of thought about moving the game in a direction, that doesn't mean he's town!!! He could be scum having that same train of thought!!! Just 'cos his direction's plausible doesn't mean he's more town... after all, scum likes to push the game in lotsa ways too!!!!
Cause it's like the most obtuse way to interpret what Charloux said possible
And why's Syr town? Even if ya buy his train of thought about moving the game in a direction, that doesn't mean he's town!!! He could be scum having that same train of thought!!! Just 'cos his direction's plausible doesn't mean he's more town... after all, scum likes to push the game in lotsa ways too!!!!
Not really willing to rehash what I said earlier; I hope your points here sound as confbiasy to you as they do to me
Nu uh! This aint that! See, ya told me why you think Syr's posts were good and ya can see his train of thought movin' in certain ways! Like ya think he was trying to lay a sneaky trap!
But!!!
What's to say he can't be mafia laying the trap? You only proved why he wasn't mafia!! not why he was town!!!
If ya believe that, you should think he's... null! ^_^
I think what Bubbles meant to say is that you haven't shown clear town motivation.
I think Syryana action's have been safe and controlled. I don't think they look genuine.
Then we're at an impasse because, as I've said, I disagree, and I don't see anything that is making me reconsider.
I don't know you're quantifying "safe/controlled" (i actually think his play looks not really like that) or how that translates to scum motivation here.
Explain why you don't think they look genuine, because that's actually germane to an alignment discussion.
Like we were in RVS at that point and you yourself jumped on that wagon right after he did (for reasons I found fine even if I think the premise of the argument sucks ass)
I don't see scum motivation, but I believe townreads on him are misguided. He performed a reaction test, but he made it clear and dropped it quickly. He gave reads, but they were straightforward. In you and Dunnstral I see more choas. Syryana's actions have been linear.
After getting a read he felt good about from things that happened during it. I agree it would have been more effective to wait for SxN to post. I still don't think that matters.
The bottom line is, he did a thing, immediately signaled that it was a test, and backed it up well enough in 71 that I believe that was legitimately his intent. I understand that you or another head of yours don't think that's compelling evidence that he's town -- noted, and as such I think we have to agree to disagree with the info we currently have and promise to reevaluate later while moving on from this before people start tuning out the game. Any other reads right now?
This post made me feel a little uneasy; if I am interpreting it correctly with the brackets where I have them (am I???), it's positing a level of confidence in SxN being scum that I don't think a townie should have right now. Templered that it is possibly playstyle (like I'd never accuse someone like Katsuki of being scum for doing shit like this)
Scum don't scumhunt. They use their actions to tell a story they're creating. True events aren't like constructed stories. They aren't simple and don't follow an easy sequence - linear.
Syryana doesn't use his actions to probe further, dig deeper than he could. He makes a move, explains it, and then moves on.
Controlled. Linear.
