Civilization Mafia [GAME OVER]

[MathBlade]

So in short it is almost certain Vecna's scum teams are horribly flawed at this point.

Namely I also find that with the scumreads disappearing off the Yuri/Vecna slots not entering into Vecna's reads is fishy as fuck.

Vecna needs to reexamine its' reads.

[Nahdia]

Lynch Vote 4.20

Leonshade (4):

NoticeMeSenpai, KidAmn, CloudKicker, Lil Uzi Vert

Nero Cain (3):

MathBlade, Leonshade, Alisae

nancy (2):

Nero Cain, RadiantCowbells

Gorkington (1):

davesaz

Maxous (1):

Vecna

Caesar Wills It (1):

Creature

KidAmn (1):

Maxous

Vecna (1):

Gorkinton

Not Voting (2):

Caesar Wills It, nancy

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch by majority.
Lynch deadline is in (expired on 2017-03-26 13:41:51), at which point at which point we will default to no lynch.

[Maxous]

If Maxous is scum, I'm also scum.

Remember that.

Explain why that connection exists for me like I'm 5.

Read the PR list

[Creature]

Neh heh eairh neh neh

[MathBlade]

What PR list? There's a list players in the first post? Was it in the 15 pages I haven't caught up with. I'm trying to explain my VCA in small chunks so people understand did I miss it?

[MathBlade]

beeboy

(11): ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn,

Albert B. Rampage

,

Fro99er

, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri

Albert B. Rampage

(5): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna,

The DEO

,

beeboy

, Caesar Wills It

With the end of day one we have lynch on beeboy who is town, a counterwagon on ABR who is town, and Yuri wagon of unknown alignment that disappeared.

ssbm_Kyouko, PeregrineV, Spiffeh, Elbirn, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri

Taking out the confirmed town this leaves the group ssbm_Kyouko/Cloudkicker, PeregrineV, Spiffeh/nancy, Elbirn/Gorkington, Creature, Akane and Nebby, Leonshade, Drixx, Yuri.

At the height of the Yuri wagon the following players have unknown alignments (removing myself as I am town): Lil Uzi Vert, Akane and Nebby, Vecna, Spiffeh/nancy, Nero Cain, Leonshade

The people not on Yuri but on beeboy are: Cloudkicker, PV, Vecna, and Yuri.

So if you scumread Yuri at least one of Cloudkicker, PV, Vecna need to be scum with Yuri with a side of spiffeh/nancy. More reasoning why Vecna isn't trying to use the entire game to form his reads he's going for what is popular and what "sounds good". So if Yuri is scum then nancy probably is too.

Therefore if you scumread Yuri at least one of Cloudkicker or PV or Vecna has to be scum with

[MathBlade]

@Alisae -- That's the kind of stuff that you get from VCAs preflip. You can figure out if a scum team is completely and utterly ridiculous that is proposed as if we assume their team is possible then reach an absurd conclusion then the scum team suggested is most likely false.

[MathBlade]

This is one of the reasons I like it when people provide potential teams they become a lot easier to read for me because I can look back on the evidence and the reasons and the VCs (which are a tool not a holy grail) and then nail scum to the wall.

Now let's look at Day 2. Let's keep going with the Yuri/Kid Amn slot is scum assumption and nancy is scum assumption. (Yes these are assumptions I'm trying to see if something disproves this theory.) I like to use VCs to disprove things and then through lots of "disproves" you can reach a logical conclusion.

[Gorkington]

ou really are all over the place. Also nice to ignore all my posts on the topic of why I think youre scum and only refer to me pushing "both you and Leon"

yeah because i havent referred to your shit ass potshots at me that wouldnt be hard at all to fake as scum.

is anyone townreading this?
seriously?

[Gorkington]

How have I been floating Davesaz as scum for ages? It was like literally a period of 24 hours last day or something. Also this second statement almost feels like youre fishing whether im the chichen itza....there no need Gorkington, I already claimed what wonder I have and its not that one.

how does this address what im actually saying?
dont move the goalpost.
why are you taking dave's claim at face value if youre suspicious of him?

and i have no idea what happened when you were writing the second half of this post.

[Gorkington]

is everything okay vecna?

[MathBlade]

Spoiler: Main D2 wagons

Main Wagon 1
Caesar Wills It (6): Creature, Spiffeh, Akane and Nebby,

The DEO

, Brian Skies, Elbirn

Main Wagon 2

Albert B. Rampage

(6): Lil Uzi Vert, Leonshade,

MathBlade

, nancy, Vecna, Akane and Nebby

Main Wagon 3
Vecna (7): Caesar Wills It, Nero Cain,

Albert B. Rampage

, Elbirn, Maxous, Brian Skies, nancy

Albert B. Rampage

(5): Lil Uzi Vert,

MathBlade

, Vecna, Akane and Nebby, davesaz
ssbm_Kyouko (4): Yuri, Leonshade, Maxous, Akane and Nebby


Vecna (7): Caesar Wills It, Nero Cain,

Albert B. Rampage

, Elbirn, Brian Skies, nancy, Creature

Albert B. Rampage

(4): Lil Uzi Vert,

MathBlade

, Vecna, davesaz
ssbm_Kyouko (4): Yuri, Leonshade, Maxous, Akane and Nebby

These were the main D2 wagons. The lynch then was switched to ABR.

Now if we assume Yuri is scum then almost certainly the ssbm slot/Cloudkicker slot is town due to how long the Yuri slot left their vote on ssbm. Keep in mind scum would have likely built daychat at this point (assuming they are not idiots and with three mislynches I'm okay assuming that I think) and scum likely have night chat so almost certainly I don't see if Yuri scum them baby sitting their vote on scum that long with all that going on.

The people not on Yuri but on beeboy are and are not a person Yuri sat their vote on:PV and Vecna.

So if Yuri is scum then nancy most likely is and at least one of PV/Vecna probably is.

[Gorkington]

i still dont really understand why nero wagon happened.

[MathBlade]

is everything okay vecna?

Why are you asking a scumread if everything is okay?

Pedit: Because Nero is scum.

[Gorkington]

i think youre taking me literally when you probably shouldnt

why is nero scum

[MathBlade]

Albert B. Rampage (10): Lil Uzi Vert, Vecna, davesaz, Leonshade, MathBlade, Caesar Wills It, nancy, Akane and Nebby, ssbm_Kyouko, Brian Skies
ssbm_Kyouko (6): Yuri, Maxous, Creature, Nero Cain, Albert B. Rampage, PeregrineV

Coming back to the end of the day if Yuri is scum then that's two wagons on town at the end of the day. This makes Sondam, NoticeMeSenpai, and Elbrin would have one scum in it, if any.
So any team with NoticeMeSenpai and Elbrin in it together is probably wrong.

[MathBlade]

i think youre taking me literally when you probably shouldnt

why is nero scum

I read almost everything as literal. Call it a math quirk if you wish.

I've answered that and I'm trying to answer a question that's been sitting literally for days and I need to answer it by 7. Read my ISO since I've answered that.

[MathBlade]

I still want either what you are asking or an answer to that question Gork.

[MathBlade]

Fuck it I'm finishing my Mass Effect trial before the game goes live. I'll come back to this when my trial expires. But there's definitely some things shaking out of the vote counts.

[Gorkington]

i was making fun of him. because im stupid.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

Math he was implying Vecna's not ok because of the second half of the sentence where he accused Gork of trying to rolefish him (Vecna) when Gork stated it was dave's result.

[NoticeMeSenpai]

It was an intended insult at intelligence, I think? Something along those lines, not a serious question.

[Gorkington]

q.q

[NoticeMeSenpai]

@Math there are 10,656 bullshit reasons I could give you on the Maxous/Creature thing, but I think you'll do better off reading what you missed.

@Gork, Math doesn't do well with sarcasm and the like, finds it hard to pick up on that. Not your fault they didn't pick it up, beyond you actually stating it. Just means you'll likely get questions like those from time to time.

[nancy]

Isn't it interesting that as soon as I figured out what was going on and started pushing on it everyone started being active again.

RC, we're supposed to be dancing. You're just being clumsy right now.