Gay Mafia 3: Trumpocalypse Now D8

[Cephrir]

Sorry party decided to shoot a swamp hag

Few more minutes, I will get to you tonight promise

Kinda seems like you're dreading being in the thread mate

[Cephrir]

That makes sense.
I think that makes me feel more confident about a townread on you rather than a townread on her but I'll definitely take it into account.

If she was scum, I could have seen her telling me to go ahead on the fake claim thinking it was about her claim, so she could counter it to seal my lynch.

Think that would be pretty suicidal. 1 for 1 at best and likely not even that.

[Cephrir]

[Quote"nacho"Does that make more sense?[/quote]
I think that was very much a making fun of one post thing for me rather than questioning the whole affair, but it does make a lot of sense. I wasn't paranoid about tammy anymore, but if I was, this would have helped.

Remind me not to try and quote parts of walls on mobile.

[Cephrir]

Dammit.

[Cephrir]

What post does he make there?

An acknowledgement of what is happening. An attempt to make peace. A recognition of excessive feelings.

I liked this post!
I was probably distracted at that point in time; probably would have attempted to put out a fire if I had more time.

Well you're confirmed town now so nyeh.

I'm sorry that it may have killed bellsprout though

[Cephrir]

Are we finally gonna get PUMBAA??

Make room in the upper part of your read lists everyone knows this warthog is too cute to be scum

[Cephrir]

Uhh you can just highlight a part of a post and hit quote and it'll quote only that part.

The only hard part is putting multiple quotes in one post so I leave that when I'm not on mobile.

I can on pc but my phone does not do this for some reason.

Maybe I shouldn't use the generic Internet app.

[Cephrir]

Uhh you can just highlight a part of a post and hit quote and it'll quote only that part.

The only hard part is putting multiple quotes in one post so I leave that when I'm not on mobile.

On the iPhone, selecting text is a sysiphian exercise because the selection box either wants to select the whole thing or the wrong parts

Android isn't better at this

[Cephrir]

Town

Nacho
Desperado
Vaxkiller
Spiffeh
kuribo
Syryana
LRF
Kise
bundle of sticks

???

Pine
Brian
ABR
Tammy

Scum

Majiffy (probably need a review on this)
Hocho
DGB
xyzzy
hiplop

Why am I and grey missing. B/c you refused to give a concrete read on me last time you made a read list as well.

Literally because I stopped writing the list at that point, went down and typed out the bottom section of the post, and then forgot to add in the rest before hitting Submit.

Is it really necessary for me to ask the obvious follow up question to this post?

[Cephrir]

I'm not unwilling to lynch xyzzy but I'm getting real tired of the disappearing act from hocho

[Cephrir]

I seriously want to fucking replace out because of this dude how much of a massive cunt can you get I'm not even fucking talking to you or addressing you.

Oh well, you are in this post.

And poking holes in your scum bullshit is part of the game pumpkin.

It's incredible how you can dish it out but not take it.

[Cephrir]

VOTE: xyzzy

This vote is opportunistic!

[Cephrir]

I'm not going anywhere near 4288

[Cephrir]

Why do you keep doing this to me don't play with my heart

[Cephrir]

VOTE: xyzzy

Next time I get in a game that starts doing what this one is doing, I am going to play like this.

[Cephrir]

Actually I'm just gonna go ahead and reveal my trap card:

If I am vigged kuribo is 100% scum.

Great trap card how was that supposed to help exactly?

kuribo can you explain your SAD scum read because I'm not seeing it

he pissed me off


he gots to die

Oh come on now.

[Cephrir]

Oh please tell me it's over. Say it again. I just want to know.

[Cephrir]

You know what actually really reads weirdly to me.

How Titus was kinda throwing shade on her hydra partner in multiple posts. Something like "yeah I told Alisae not to crumb but he did it against my will" and stuff along those lines.

Which read extremely fake to me.

Interestingly enough, Titus crumbed first. Not sure what to make of it considering Titus told me it wasn't her style.

Also, Watcher shouldn't be on Desp. If Desp dies tonight, we can just insta-lynch Hocho.

I have been choosing not to potshot every single person who says this, but: it should be evident at this point that hocho's page 3 claim was a lie. it's been established.

[Cephrir]

Wraiths post is crazy and dumb, but not as dumb as voting desperado

[Cephrir]

Wraiths post is crazy and dumb, but not as dumb as voting desperado

I'm guessing you missed xyzzy's flip?

Uh... no?

[Cephrir]

Are you trying to say fedora is trump?

?????

[Cephrir]

Let me point out the relevant part if anyone missed it:

2. If Donald Trump dies, you will, at random, be given a 1-shot version of an unused ability that Donald Trump had at the time of his death.

What the fuck are you talking about

[Cephrir]

@wraith: why would you suspect kuribo for not being nightkilled? Is one vig shot scarier than a cop or confirmed town???

[Cephrir]

VOTE: fedora

Dunno about confirmed scum but they're still just as scummy as they were yesterday and maybe more

[Cephrir]

Can you really hate this face

[Cephrir]

I'm pretty sure it can't be done

[Cephrir]

So do I actually. Vaxkiller better either claim if Fedora targeted Nacho or who targeted Tammy.

But anyway it's super obvious you don't doc a random over a claimed cop, so Fedora is scum anyway.

uh

they docced the conftown?

Scum was obviously always roleblocking or killing Vax, which means that cop was vulnerable but had a pretty strong chance of getting the investigation through. It makes no sense to protect a conftown when he's dying anyways when if you let a cop's investigation go through you get either a scum or another conftown.

If you are a doctor and there is a claimed cop and an innocent child, you always always always protect the cop.

Scum risking shooting Tammy and succeeding is also a significant point against them; if Fedora and Vax were both telling the truth, then scum wouldn't be jumping at that shot in particular.

I am not playing this like you.

There's Vax and by picking the way I did, we learn about his alignment. He's probably scum.

Either 1 of ABR is most certainly scum because Vax was NOT likely blocked given kuribo claims to be. I really don't see kuribo claiming to shoot an obviously scum slot while really double shooting Tammy. Even if that happened, still nets us one scum because Vax sees that moonlogic.

So that's two scum narrowed down based on my choices.

If I had healed Tammy, we'd have a dead Tammy, but scum able to argue the double up, claim blocked and shit the thread.

This way nets us two scum.

I am sorry I haven't given 100% due to RL shit. I get you're conftown and should be treated as such but the amount of arrogance you describe is insane.

I don't see things the way you do, but my way is working.

What in the absolute hell is this? There's not one sentence in this post that makes sense.

[Cephrir]

If I had healed Tammy, we'd have a dead Tammy, but scum able to argue the double up, claim blocked and shit the thread.

What.

Strongman to balance against me.
Tammy dies even when I heal her.
"Watcher" blames kuribo throwing shit (argues nightkill and vig on Tammy) in his direction and claims blocked.
Thread goes to shit.

When, by healing Nacho, Vax gives us scum, claims something ridiculous.

So now you're claiming to be basing your actions on there being a scum strongman, a thing which you couldn't possibly know, because a doctor is so powerful scum have to have one (naturally, this explains why every setup with a doctor also has a strongman) but declaring vax scum without even hearing his report. and you're also positive that scum would double kill Tammy... if they don't have a strongman?

Wow it must be nice to be able to see the future... wtf??

[Cephrir]

Because first of all your hydra partner was claiming it was better to protect nacho. Why are you now making it seem IT WAS ALL ACCORDING TO KEIKAKU that Tammy died and we got all this info.

yeah this is absurd please kill it

[Cephrir]

We don't get this information if I heal Tammy ftr.

Except... we do. Tammy would just be alive to process that information with us.

yeah but we have this mystery information now instead of a cop investigation so that's pretty imprtant

[Cephrir]

Fedora claims to know they saved Spiffeh from a NK

I never got this impression so your whole line of reasoning today hasn't made sense to me

[Cephrir]

(the "oh there's a miller in the game" argument is dumb - of course she doesn't target the miller).

my existence also makes a cop being in the game considerably more likely, which is just one more reason tammy should have been treated as conftown

[Cephrir]

Nacho do you have any reads on them?

For instance, you seem to be close to Syryana. What do you think about him doing jack shit this game?

he's answered this but i still don't know that i found it satisfying

[Cephrir]

my existence also makes a cop being in the game considerably more likely, which is just one more reason tammy should have been treated as conftown

Ceph, I think it's been established that LRF's play isn't coming from any sane town perspective.

I know, but even years of titus exposure haven't made me stop wanting to shake her until she makes sense

i think she needs to be a little crazier for me to finally give up (see: a, mastin)

[Cephrir]

LRF - 6 (Nacho, Cephir, Syryana, Grey, Hocho Knife, Wraith)

nacho how can you look at this wagon and say "yep, fedora is flipping scum"

i just dont fucking get it

i think scum have probably given up on fedora at this point

[Cephrir]

Hey Nacho. Let me know when you're around. Want to ask you something.

Not long. Just something interesting I noticed I wanted to ask you about regarding SAD.

my existence also makes a cop being in the game considerably more likely, which is just one more reason tammy should have been treated as conftown

Ceph, I think it's been established that LRF's play isn't coming from any sane town perspective.

Actually Nacho, don't worry about it for now. It doesn't need to be addressed immediately and I can wait until you have some time later tonight or tomorrow.

.....

...........................................

im pretty sure "hey nacho let's talk actually nah" is at least 70% of this iso

[Cephrir]

orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

fedora is town and scum are using nacho (again) to mislynch her

it's possible but i really think they're just scum. i've never seen an ounce of town motivation in their posts.

i'd be happy to lynch abr if this doesn't go through but i think it's going to

[Cephrir]

i'd also lynch syryana or hocho any day of the week

i think all these slots pretty much need to go

[Cephrir]

hiplop can die too

i don't think we have a full vig because if we do they are not doing their job

[Cephrir]

sad, your chart is missing my millerness. i haven't explicitly claimed or disclaimed whether there is anything else to my role.

[Cephrir]

hiplop can die too

i don't think we have a full vig because if we do they are not doing their job

Do you not remember DEFCON hiplop?

Is he just a policy lynch for you?

i remember

but how am i supposed to determine his alignment?

[Cephrir]

i did think he was town earlier but he's not fucking here.

[Cephrir]

i guess i wasnt really thinking about past hiplops when i made that post but i wanted to play with him and im frustrated

[Cephrir]

i did think he was town earlier but he's not fucking here.

Why not?

I don't understand the question.

[Cephrir]

I miss bundle of sticks, their replacement is so mean.

at least this guy isn't such a bundle of sticks.

[Cephrir]

sometimes i feel like we'd get along if we just let it go.

[Cephrir]

i have come to regret signing up for this, but deep down i probably knew all along that was 80% likely.

[Cephrir]

This game has a lot of players wanting to take it different directions and are for the most part all seeing the game differently which doesn't help.

really? i was more worried about everyone having the same reads for the most part

[Cephrir]

Neither redirect or nor bus driver is a bastard role.

[Cephrir]

How many times do I have to point out that hocho admitted their claim was a troll before someone reads my posts?

[Cephrir]

What part of "you watched a different person than you intended last night" is a mod lie

[Cephrir]

vote abr

[Cephrir]

Cephrir:

How many times do I have to point out that hocho admitted their claim was a troll before someone reads my posts?

Uhh which one are you talking about?

Yeah on day one their claim thing about if being alive and protecting trump so he can't die was a troll.

But katsuki claimed ivanka trump yesterday when he was at L-1 and said he can confirm desp as trump.

Shhh I was trying to pretend I didn't make that post now that I've realized I was being an idiot

[Cephrir]

Vax would have/SHOULD HAVE seen a bus driver. It was a redirect if anything

Ok bbl

Even this depends on the implementation actually

[Cephrir]

I keep forgetting I'm alive in this game.

So have we

[Cephrir]

that's one attitude you could take towards a situation like that

[Cephrir]

Kise, can you tell us about your hiplop vote?

it seems like i went over your head so let me try again: what are you gonna do about it?

[Cephrir]

no. you were just complaining about majiffy like there was some reason you expected people to magically change their minds. i just quoted that post because it showed tone deafness to my last one so i figured you didn't get it

[Cephrir]

It's a great claim, your team just tries to not lynch or shoot all the enablers to expose the lie.

this explains why the other claimed enabler has not called him out... how, exactly?

[Cephrir]

more importantly, why are you not talking to said claimed enabler about this issue and just complaining about it instead

[Cephrir]

did you want to claim or just throw your hands in the air and pretend it's our fault

[Cephrir]

wraith pls

[Cephrir]

honestly those tildes are really aggressive i was on board up till then

[Cephrir]

i am not sure if im joking or not

[Cephrir]

Ceph, I don't think your last vote counted. Would you like to rejoin us?

I PMed the mod.

[Cephrir]

hjlkfdasfliekjfspireunvjlksfsalewewnaoivjher839hagkfdmisfj

hey

[Cephrir]

Cephrir

I hate you

[Cephrir]

i'm seeing nacho saying weak roleblocker...?

why is that not in the chart?

I am so sorry that you've chosen to read this pile of shit.

[Cephrir]

ur lacking the sass, ceph. what's going on?

Dunno. This game hasn't been very fun.

[Cephrir]

go ahead bc i can't think of any trump supporters w that schtick

this should take 2 seconds

I stepped away but as you'd see in the thread, I don't care to. I can but I do not want to. I didn't want to claim but Alisae crumbing forced it.

But really, you cannot think of Trump supporter with a God complex? Hmm. Just imagine who I would be if I supported trump and has less of a base in reality than this thread.

What possible reason could you have for refusing to claim flavor when already outed?

[Cephrir]

The only one I can think of is "I'm worried my flavor might be scummy" and while I'm sure your claim is either real or mod provided that doesn't strike me as something town would be likely to worry about

[Cephrir]

what on earth does that mean fedora

[Cephrir]

I am not changing my flavor claim, and I actually don't have that many posts. Logic should give it, but logic dictates the confirmed doctor should have zero votes.

................................................................

[Cephrir]

vax what information would someone who shows up in ur results get about u?

I asked SAD to update his chart earlier, they get my playername. I'm not sure who put it out there that they get my role name.

they get that ur jan brewer?

No. He's scum.

thanks for that. it's always helpful when people do this.

shit i'm being sassy just bc of the reminder. but maybe it will help me stop hating everything.

[Cephrir]

But then again why would he scumclaim modified watcher not just regular watcher (unless the modifed part is part of his original role and he gets seen when he uses his scumability).

that's possible. what scum ability would want to target super town players and wouldnt be as obvious as a roleblock? does that exist? scum watcher is also an option

[Cephrir]

id really deeply appreciate it if you could get off your high horse and stop pretending everyone who suspects you is objectively stupid.

[Cephrir]

What was so hard about that

[Cephrir]

@Cephrir, I am not pretending. I have lost near total respect for anyone voting me over ABR at the moment who just tries to lurk shit away and survived Kuribo's vig.

and i thought i was too judgemental.

[Cephrir]

not buyin it

which thing? or all of the things?

[Cephrir]

fair enough

it'd have to be a redirector, and the mods would have to be of the "targetee isn't visited" school.

it's possible, but iffy. i'm interested in seeing what a scum flip looks like, but since they appear to have a roleblocker the possibility of a redirector too strikes me as questionable

[Cephrir]

breitbart.com

sweet boy takes over as executive chair of breitbart

is kodak moment still a thing

[Cephrir]

So why did nacho replace out and why did someone who was getting killed replace in?

he probaby replaced out for the grey hammer

It is in question (like it always was mind you) even more so now that Nacho flipped town jailkeeper

Why would we need a "loud doctor" and a jailkeeper?

well, ive seen doc/jk combos before. it's not that weird. if/when fedora's lynched it should be for playing like scum not for setup spec

[Cephrir]

I'm going to be a good player now, I promise.

Whistle, and I will come running, my friends.

I'm sorry for failing you all before.

i love you, tell me who is mafia and who is just town-aligned scum

[Cephrir]

Brian skies is scum

aw that's gonna be a hard sell though

[Cephrir]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Fedora didn't know that Nacho was jailkeeper.

What are the odds they killed Nacho and pretended to "loud doc" him to then claim being roleblocked?

How?

[Cephrir]

Hmmmmmmmmmm

Fedora didn't know that Nacho was jailkeeper.

What are the odds they killed Nacho and pretended to "loud doc" him to then claim being roleblocked?

I think it's very likely that Nacho jailkept Fedora last night

Do you think fedora's town then?

[Cephrir]

VOTE: hiplop

I'm good with this dying.

He went from lurk-a-durk to AtE to convenient scumread in record time.

would you prefer he continued lurking? sheesh

[Cephrir]

i dont rly think shifting from not here to emotional is tremendously different from switching from not here to here

[Cephrir]

sup warthog?

it's nice of you to join us! maybe this game will stop being unfun now? probably not, but hey.

[Cephrir]

Ceph I think I'm gonna just assume you're scum but not really lynch you ever is that cool?

Just so if you fool me I don't feel as bad

heh.

that's ok i guess. being feared sucks i can't work with anyone

[Cephrir]

Ceph I think I'm gonna just assume you're scum but not really lynch you ever is that cool?

Just so if you fool me I don't feel as bad

you should lynch him.
He's annoying.
He hates me.
He hates us.
He wants to try to make you think that We're scum so he can MANIPULATE the town.
It's spooky.
Can you lynch him for me please?
-Ali

What is your problem? Seriously I don't get why my suspicion of you, when ive yelled about it way less than some other people, is randomly personal

It happens to me a lot but i don't know what i'm doing wrong

[Cephrir]

actually no fuck everything about that post. ATE isn't always scummy, but when it's ATE that doesn't make sense or have a reason to exist, that i do not like one bit

i wish it was directed at someone else so my opinion would be valid

[Cephrir]

Sup bitches

not the quality of your posts apparently :/

[Cephrir]

VOTE: hiplop

I'm good with this dying.

He went from lurk-a-durk to AtE to convenient scumread in record time.

would you prefer he continued lurking? sheesh

I'd prefer he own his bullshit instead of whine about it.

like you do? zzz

[Cephrir]

how many votes does syryana have and why shouldn't i vote him into next week?

[Cephrir]

ladies and gents of the town i present grey, the man who never whines.

[Cephrir]

VOTE: serena williams im out for the night, probably will do a half assed abr iso tomorrow

[Cephrir]

[Hocho Knife (Katsuki/EP), -Grey-, hiplop, Syryana, Vaxkiller, ceph, brian]

^this was my total scum pool^

Minus vax and Brian, I will lynch the rest in any order + Spiffeh

Why do you hurt me like this

[Cephrir]

Spif is 200% SCUM!

probably not, i misread the post first time around...

jeez what the fuck is with you people and speaking in absolutes?

I believe you'll find that to be a double absolute.

[Cephrir]

Yeah so once we hear from vax syr can die anytime his posts today are flaming garbage

[Cephrir]

Cher is town? Huh.

[Cephrir]

I know I've only seen one Ali game but man they are like night and day

Admittedly last night looks kinda good for them

[Cephrir]

Spiff I think you're town but I wish you'd do more that's not complaining about being scum read

Sorry you'll probably hate this post and it might not even be accurate

[Cephrir]

sad you keep moving me up and back down without me doing anything and it's really playing with my heart

[Cephrir]

yeah hey the voices in my head are people too

[Cephrir]

Thank God for AIDS

- Every night, you may target two players. Specify them as Player A and Player B. Any action that Player A takes will be redirected from Player A’s current target to Player B.

^scum redirector in gay mafia 2

how would reck+ut justify them not showing up on the watcher report? it explicitly says the redirector TARGETS player b.

fascinating

[Cephrir]

My report does not mention redirecting/redirected.

sure but if we eliminate that what else is left? ascetic busdriver? that's stupid as hell

and it can't even be that because then fedora would have seen you

[Cephrir]

i literally said this about 100 pages ago when people were shitting claims into the thread

towns fucking suck

[Cephrir]

so few people can keep their role in their pants for two days and i don't understand at all

[Cephrir]

abr's iso is like 50% attacking fedora halfheartedly/barely delivering on why and 50% useless nothing. probably the only thing i get out of it is that his random hocho suspicion feels mildly town for them

[Cephrir]

you have less posts than hocho knife

[Cephrir]

for what it's worth i think my role is what it is primarily for flavor reasons. but if it's true that that's the only asymmetry, it's probably also meant to serve the purpose of looking strange so cabd can laugh at us if we lynch for shitty setup spec

[Cephrir]

I would very much prefer we not out any more full claims than we already have though

[Cephrir]

Who does Vax even think is scum?

[Cephrir]

why have you even been using that ability? what is the point of it? once you prove you have it i'm not sure what the point is

[Cephrir]

Someone who's likely scum and being overlooked is Majiffy

i didn't forget there are just more clear cut fish to fry

[Cephrir]

although i guess since nacho isn't here anymore to yell at me im allowed to change my opinion right

thats definitely how i should think about that

[Cephrir]

it bothers me that every lurker's scumreads are the other lurkers and fedora

[Cephrir]

idk/town/town

I should probably reorganize my thoughts but that probably can't happen productively for awhile

If you think Vax and Hiplop are town, I think Hocho makes a good lynch. Especially if you have him in your POE pool. Like I said earlier, mostly everyone has already claimed or indicated their role in some way. So unless you think Vax is lying (in which case you should lynch him), then Hocho makes for a good lynch.

If Vax is town, he's never going to be useful and scum will never have a reason to lynch him as long as they have someone to mess with his results. If Vax is scum, he's never giving us scum anyway and us twiddling our thumbs about it isn't ever going to be productive for us.

Syryana is an okay lynch, but he's a claimed votelocker and his lynch doesn't do anything to resolve the Vax situation. If you just want to lynch Syry because you think he's the most likely to flip scum, then fine. But I don't think he's inherently the best lynch we can get today.

I just want to lynch scum I don't really care which scum it is

we blew our load and outed all our investigative roles for no reason so if we want to salvage this game we're probably going to have to scumhunt uncannily well

[Cephrir]

This only leaves a small pool of {Me, Kise, SAD, Hocho, Hiplop}.

I think that's a little dangerous. Hypothetically, Fedora could just be a message poster, Syryana could be claiming a scumbuddy's ability, any number of things are not ACTUALLY confirmed

[Cephrir]

i also don't see why a scum neighbor necessarily couldn't have something else too

[Cephrir]

This only leaves a small pool of {Me, Kise, SAD, Hocho, Hiplop}.

I think that's a little dangerous. Hypothetically, Fedora could just be a message poster, Syryana could be claiming a scumbuddy's ability, any number of things are not ACTUALLY confirmed

really 2 mod messengers?

I mean, it's not likely at all, but it's theoretically possible

[Cephrir]

kuribo shouldn't be eliminated from that pool either, or pine, or even dgbthough it seems unlikely she and kuribo would just make up a vig shot

[Cephrir]

rethink if a lot of juiced town PRs start flipping

^^^speaking of this, i have yet to see a reason why scum would need a redirector

if JK and doc and watcher are all town I could see it, but they probably aren't

[Cephrir]

i certainly don't see why they would need both a redirector and whatever happened to fedora, even then, though

[Cephrir]

I also may or may not just want to lynch Hocho because their wagon stalled out really hard (unlike the other wagons we've had) and I don't have room for them in my 'don't lynch' pile.

pls dont with things like this youll hurt me

[Cephrir]

I also may or may not just want to lynch Hocho because their wagon stalled out really hard (unlike the other wagons we've had) and I don't have room for them in my 'don't lynch' pile.

pls dont with things like this youll hurt me

?

You're veering close to vca

[Cephrir]

ceph, you're not faking outrage at me talking about your flavor.

step it up, plz.

i'll fake outrage about you implying i'm scum how does that work for you?

i don't care if you speculate on flavor as long as no one tries to pretend it's alignment indicative

[Cephrir]

if ur picking at flavor, anyone who even loosely follows the news probably already knows who ceph's going to claim

Hey.
So you know how Ceph claimed miller?
And is APPARENTLY in a hood with the trump enablers?
Idunno, I feel like something doesn't line up here.
But hey, I'm bad at this game apparently.
-Ali

Do you have to post?

[Cephrir]

oh ok ^^

[Cephrir]

PINE IS PUITN 3RD PARTY

actually that's... probably right

[Cephrir]

are in my town block

Cephir leans town, I like his thought process on the game, but hes not in my town block. His role seems weirdly questionable to me. Like completely made up and useless. Does the mod do that?

what's the point of a ~town block~ do you know what those are

great analysis you've deduced that my role isn't helpful... ok

[Cephrir]

are hiplop and grey in your town block

never mind i don't care:]

[Cephrir]

did he say that about vax?

i can barely parse vax's posts how is his play good

[Cephrir]

I think im about to be school'd on waht one is.

Enjoy a jellybean.

Mastin wrote that? Yup, thats where I heard that from.

On that note I'm headed to bed.


Grey you want to join my bloc?

Yes. That's what they are.

It's also a pretty dumb concept 9 times out of 10.

[Cephrir]

Niceeee I'm on fire.

Vote: Hiplop

Hiplop and Hocho Knife both on amazing lynches.

Are you? I wouldn't call yesterday's lynch a success

[Cephrir]

there's no way to express enjoyment of excellent jokes without sounding sycophantic but have you considered a career in comedy writing?

[Cephrir]

I could get excited about lynching any of the following people today:

pine
majiffy
hocho
grey
vax

Which ones are actually scum? Can we lynch scum?

[Cephrir]

nope nope nope.
Grey is town.
There was a point I saw he was town when he was talking to Titus D2.
And him voting me D3 for misreading him when he knows I can accurately read him pretty well comes from town!Grey.
Grey is town. No ands, ifs, or buts.
-Ali

if i listened every time someone said something like this id lynch pine today then throw my hands up tomorrow and say everyone's town let's all go home

[Cephrir]

VOTE: Grey

not yet let me help

[Cephrir]

darn i guess someone else will have to

[Cephrir]

On the real, it's stupid to lynch me before an obvious non-town like Pine.

That dude is third party AT BEST. It's idiotic to vote town over a piss fit instead of Scum.

i'm voting you right now about 10% for being scum, 10% for being antitown and 80% because i thought it was funny

[Cephrir]

and now 5% for that post being stilted.

[Cephrir]

it's up to 105% now

[Cephrir]

I didn't understand that either


Why the Fuck would Syriana need to distance? A third party has no partners and doesn't know who the scum team is

I meant I had that feeling yesterday it was distancing one way.

Now that we know Serena isn't mafia, then I feel very strongly it's hiplop.

I don't think hiplop kills Spiffeh ever.

[Cephrir]

I also don't even remember calling Kuribo 3rd party?? Again, I've given my thoughts on A LOT of stuff, going into my ISO and cherry picking a few things and trying to paint me scum with it is :/

is... how scumhunting is generally done? everyone says some things that are town and some that aren't, you can't really expect a pbpa before someone is allowed to suspect you

[Cephrir]

Sure, but thinking about third parties at all can be a scum preoccupation, or at least someone could easily think that. as town i don't really give a damn who might be third party if they don't have a nightkill.

[Cephrir]

i mean yeah but do they want him to continue not to get lynched? and what was spiffeh doing that made it so important to kill him? he's just been protecting hiplop and generally looking town himself

[Cephrir]

Hocho is at L-2. Consider this my

intent to let grey hammer

.

[Cephrir]

This slot needs to claim or die, especially now that we gave it a whole day to come up with the rest of its fakeclaim

[Cephrir]

._.

[Cephrir]

What are the chances Kuribo held on to his vig shot and then shot yesterday (and claimed to shoot ABR because he knows ABR is flipping BP).

Idk though the "Pray Away The Gay forced counselling camp" doesn't sound like a directed kill.

If he did do that, why would he turn around and shoot DGB with it? That seems pretty stupid. I don't know what else could explain it though.

[Cephrir]

._.

Hi can you please give me hiplop????

Can we slow down?

[Cephrir]

Werushed the last two lynches and neihter of them worked out well. I feel like it's time to maybe not do that.

[Cephrir]

I have a theory that the reason they weren't killing Desperado was so they can counter claim him as trump at a later point in time (and say look he hasn't been dying at all he must be scum!!!)

When Hocho flipped it was confirmed desperado is trump because they already claimed him.

That sounds pretty dumb, tbh.

[Cephrir]

That I'm not sure of.

[Cephrir]

Maybe his reads were bad or spiffehs were good?

Maybe they wanted spiffeh dead so hiplop could be mislynched...

[Cephrir]

so there's more than one place to get guns from in this setup?

[Cephrir]

Cephrir since you're around which ability do you enable from trump's??

You are Billy Bush, Town

Pussy Grabber

Trump-Enabling Neighbor

Active Abilities
1. I promise you, there's no problem - You have a 1-shot vig. You can strangle people with your totally regular-sized hands.
2.

Pussy grabbing

- You have a 1-shot roleblock. You can use your incredible star power to grab someone's pussy and automatically start kissing them. They'll let you because you're famous. They just won't let you do it again for some reason.
3. Twitter - You have a 1-shot fruit vendor in the form of a tweet. You can send someone 140 characters.
4. The wall - You have a 1-shot bulletproof vest that you can give someone. It will protect them from Mexicans. But only once because it's a shitty half-baked idea.
5. FAKE NEWS - You have a 1-shot ability to make someone's next action loud. If targeted, that player's target and the ability which targeted them will be revealed in the opening day post. (For example, you target UT. UT is a RB and targets Reck the next night. The opening day post will say "RECK WAS ROLEBLOCKED")

I don't think my role pm specifies. I could see flavor arguments for any of them, though I probably would be able to guess better if I was more in the know about my character

[Cephrir]

without quoting my role pm ill say that when i first read it i thought i was enabling multiple abilities but based on the structure of everything that doesnt look to be the case

[Cephrir]

without quoting my role pm ill say that when i first read it i thought i was enabling multiple abilities but based on the structure of everything that doesnt look to be the case

What if you do and one of the people in your neighborhood isn't a trump enabler but disguised??

I guess that's not impossible?

[Cephrir]

yep

[Cephrir]

at this point we're going to lose and we deserve it, so maybe we should be asking ourselves what we'd be ok with losing to

[Cephrir]

basically if grey is scum and we lose to that i may never look this site in the eye again

[Cephrir]

I'm still saying we should lynch Pine.

I'd offer to hammer, but I'm pretty sure that goes without saying.

i was under the impression he was no longer a SS

[Cephrir]

basically if grey is scum and we lose to that i may never look this site in the eye again

yeah...

and if scum rly do have a redirector + role thief i may never look at reck/ut in the eye ever again either.

what's a role thief?

but also that's fair. vax's probably just scum and i feel like we know that and are wilfully ignoring it in the belief that an inconvenient claim is more important

[Cephrir]

Also either scum have a strongman or Fedora is lying about being a doc. Which I mean we're getting healing loud results...

(The question also is if they really shot Spiffeh N1 why didn't they strongman the kill - maybe it's X-shot?)

We've been quick to assume Spiffeh was the N1 kill when there are other options

[Cephrir]

for all we know they could have forgotten to send a kill or something

[Cephrir]

we also have a dead jailkeeper

[Cephrir]

maybe it steals items?

[Cephrir]

Vote: Hiplop

Yeah you're giving me this today.

this isnt happening

Can we seriously make this happen I'm 100% sure it's scum.

wow thats pretty good im not even 100% on the external world existing

[Cephrir]

we also have a dead jailkeeper

I'm like 95% sure Nacho jailed Tammy that night (they know each other p well and she got no result, and he claimed weak roleblocker on her).

and...?

[Cephrir]

man people do NOT know what jailkeepers do.

[Cephrir]

everyone in this game knows my claim already

we do?

[Cephrir]

Oh wait LOL you're saying they might've shot Tammy.

Idk I guess maybe possibly? But she hadn't claimed cop yet...

it's possible enough to be in the conversation

[Cephrir]

everyone in this game knows my claim already

we do?

I hope that forever when I whistle, you will come running for me, warthog friend

so you're the thing kuribo claimed to have gotten? do those do anything? you make it sound like you think i should have one, but i haven't gotten anything

[Cephrir]

hey those are an item too

maybe

[Cephrir]

uh

[Cephrir]

VOTE: SAD

[Cephrir]

i was going to double post calling you out but then i decided to give hiplop a chance to react in case that was what you were going for. on the other hand, you have to say it was a reaction test now and i'm not sure how great a look that is

[Cephrir]

Wait a min here you were fine with my fake claim

KATSUKI GUESS WHO GOT GIFTED A VIG SHOT LAST NIGHT

Not unless there's two inventors cause I damn sure have a gun in my hand and I'm 99.9% sure I know who sent it

Very interesting.

Oh come on now. One of those things is harmless even if not called off; the other isn't.

[Cephrir]

it is day 6

i think

[Cephrir]

i would appreciate it if the first post was updated. i use those a lot, you can always tell which mods use it as players...

[Cephrir]

Town

1-shot-Vig Maker

On further inspection, I'm thinking we may not need a motivator to explain multiple guns. Can

YOU

spot the difference? Alternatively, am

I

just a dumb idiot?

[Cephrir]

That's what it looks like to me, and the role PM doesn't say "you can only do this once"

She probably lied about being one-shot

[Cephrir]

Fuck link doesn't work. https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?ti ... ts_as_Town
Basicly I like how SAD took back the claim when he knew he fucked it up. I like his interactions with Kuribo. Going to keep reading now.
-Ali

it's incredible how consistently bad your opinions are

[Cephrir]

You claimed to receive two guns, Kuribo. I originally thought the third one was because you were scum, but it's possible DGB gave me one last night. And she did state a townread on me.

I'm not getting this. The first gun was used. And why would DGB give you a gun? Is it possible she gave that one to kuribo N5 as well?

[Cephrir]

Also, since when does you using a shot on someone make your gun disappear?

Get real.

Al...ways....?

[Cephrir]

YOu take away our guns

That's a pretty good point.

I'm not really sure why taking guns away would be a town role in this flavor or what protown utility it really has.

[Cephrir]

the town motivation that came away with the way I've used it this game

??????????????????????????????

your first four targets aren't even provable

[Cephrir]

Doctors don't kill win guns. They, like SK's, kill with knives.

so are you a gunsmith or are you a person who finds one shot vigs? idgi.

[Cephrir]

also ceph thnx for reading dgb's role pm correctly when i read it wrong

i live to serve

[Cephrir]

You claimed to receive two guns, Kuribo. I originally thought the third one was because you were scum, but it's possible DGB gave me one last night. And she did state a townread on me.

I'm not getting this. The first gun was used. And why would DGB give you a gun? Is it possible she gave that one to kuribo N5 as well?

Kuribo claimed two guns. I received three. I figured it could've either been that he received three guns (which I wasn't sure if it was the case), one gun was tied to his alignment (in which case he's scum), or he's town and DGB gave me the third one last night.

this seems to have been solved

[Cephrir]

it's really unfortunate that gun is both a flavor concept in this game and a meaningful concept in mafia and the mods apparently want that to be confusing

[Cephrir]

there's the town utility, ceph.

i guess im not 100% sure that gun doesn't expressly and solely mean the ones dgb gives out

the mod neglecting to give out results makes me think it could mean only that and not be a gunsmith

and unfortunately the targets don't help.

[Cephrir]

if it's actually a gunsmith then i guess grey hiplop and vax are all town so that would be a) pretty surprising and b) a big deal

[Cephrir]

If we accept brian as a town gunsmith, which i dont, we can remove grey hiplop vax nd brian from the scum pool. i'm not scum. I don't think Kise and Anti are scum.

Kuribo
Pine
Majiffy
Little Red Fedora (Titus/Alisae)
Ser Arthur Dayne

that would put all the scum here

i don't really think it's that easy but i dunno maybe it is

[Cephrir]

If we accept brian as a town gunsmith, which i dont, we can remove grey hiplop vax nd brian from the scum pool. i'm not scum. I don't think Kise and Anti are scum.

Kuribo
Pine
Majiffy
Little Red Fedora (Titus/Alisae)
Ser Arthur Dayne

that would put all the scum here

i don't really think it's that easy but i dunno maybe it is

I really think you're confusing the flavor of this game with traditional mafia flavor.

Yeah in mafia flavor gunsmith = checks for guns for roles with traditional guns in their flavor.

But he claims he checks for guns AND gets to use them. Meaning he probably checks for vig shots.

no i agree with you

i was just thinking out what id be believing if that werent the case

[Cephrir]

if brian can use the guns and his role is scum, i am not going to be happy w reckut

eh, i mean, his EV for number of guns per game is like one

[Cephrir]

I do think that if you're scum, then there's a good chance Kuribo is too. He claimed to receive two guns before today, and there are only two nights where we can assume a nightkill made it through your protection.

i'm not getting from A to B here, help