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Post Post #1200 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:06 am

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I'm undrunk now

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Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #1201 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:23 am

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In post 1072, Fro99er wrote:oh god, Gerry is insufferable

now I see why everyone replaced
How? It wasn't even me. It was RC. So pls stfu when I didn't even do anything wrong.
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Post Post #1202 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:27 am

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In post 1116, JaeReed wrote:I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.
THIS. IS. HORSE. SHIT. I'M NOT PLAYING ANYTHING LIKE THAT GAME. Jae is outing bullshit meta to push a mislynch.
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Post Post #1203 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:29 am

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In post 1147, JaeReed wrote:
In post 1122, Fro99er wrote:
In post 1116, JaeReed wrote:I think gerry might be scum again for similar reasons to house of harmony and he also was posturing a lot wrt me.
talk to me about this more. I was otherscum vs Gerry and checked him and got a guilty, so I had no reason to read him. Why is he scum
Mainly his posturing against me this game, but also his tryhard early game that he never does as town.

Like he pointed out Penguin mafia but there he didn't tryhard until near the end of D1 iirc. The beginning was a lot of trolling. This is more reminiscent of Dream mafia where I noted he was tryharding and he said he wasn't, then said he was tryharding because it was Maria's game, and I let him off the hook for it because I thought reading him based off meta was kinda douchey. But I was right.

viewtopic.php?p=8824025#p8824025 - House of Harmony post on his meta (bits on gerry in the spoiler).

Spoiler: bunch of quotes from this game on my gerry read
In post 888, JaeReed wrote:Crash's post was bad, gerry's post is bad. 787 just bleeds of posturing and fake thought process all over.

I'll answer, though.
In post 787, gerryoat wrote:At first glance of this game, I wanted to try and get a better feel before making my first serious vote. There are a couple of things that I want to go over, before I do eventually vote.

1. JaeReed.
There is something that is bothering me about them this game. It's nothing that I can say that is scummy, but based on my past experience with them, they feel.. Different. For once, I want to say that they feel way more aggressive to what I'm used to. I know that they are trying to defend Impoetic, which I can see the reasoning for, but it feels a bit over the top to me. Is it not possible that Impoetic knows that you can read her, and she is specifically doing something to break your read on her? How come there hasn't been any visable thought of you thinking about this as a possibility?

As I stated earlier, you are being way more aggressive than I am used to. Is there a reason for this? Because the times as town, you really haven't been too aggressive unless you were defending a townread, but you're aggressive this whole game, regardless if it's defending or not. Can you shine a light onto why you're doing this? I believe the only time I've seen you as scum would be in a hydra with Impoetic, and I did correctly call you out as scum, after I was the day 1 lynch (surprise)
I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia? Anyway, you mentioned even in this quote that I hydra'd with Impo as scum. I know her thought process as scum and her reactions, this just isn't it. I know her outside of games too, and I pay attention to her
because i'm a creepy stalker
. It's like the level you can soulread Claire (which I've seen you do before in Penguin mafia). There's just no way Impo is scum, she can't fool me especially when she wasn't even aware if she needed to. Like I never mentioned to her about the diff in her scum and towngames since I didn't play with her after Trial anyways since she quit forum maf.

If you want meta where I'm aggressive, Double Day Hydra Blitz is a good one, I was Chihiro in the Chihiro and Alter Ego hydra. viewtopic.php?f=83&t=70181

But there's been a lot of times where I've seen people as conftown from early game (and been right) like Ranger's micro with Charloux and Nahdia, the read on MURDERCAT in Nahdia's mini normal, C9++ on Charloux, Trees newbie on KTS. There's a reason my sig has that Charl quote.

Anyways
1st question: No I do not believe she could be doing anything to fool me, I know her too well.
2nd question: Because it's not a possibility.
3rd question: Sometimes I feel more aggressive in a game. Sometimes I feel awfully lazy. Depends on how I feel like approaching any given game.
4th question: See above.

Also the statement about calling me correctly as scum, you never did it in the main thread so it didn't matter ;p but also, it was like 5 minutes to deadline with the person who said he'd hammer you not being around and it was D1. Arguably I did the most protown thing there by hammering and I desperately wished I hadn't been awake and posting for it because of that. I would have hammered you as town because a D1 no lynch is awful for town. So thinking I was maf for the hammer is bad reasoning anyway.
In post 917, JaeReed wrote:
In post 915, gerryoat wrote:
In post 888, JaeReed wrote:I'm pretty sure I've played aggressively before in a game you've been in, the way I was going himiko and Trans in Pantheon mafia?
Isn't that the one where you were third party and not town?
Survivor that could win with town and was playing like a mason because of it, yeah.

What's your point, gerry? Because the last time you tried this angle you were scum.
In post 922, JaeReed wrote:There's scum in Dunnstral/gerry

This is more likely to be scum!gerry, my meta tell seems to be holding up and he's intent on discrediting me, which he did in this game: http://emforummaf.prophpbb.com/topic9-125.html#p1810 where he was mafia traitor.

And defensive is an entirely different look, gerryboy, which you know anyway. You're posturing again.

VOTE: gerryoat
In post 925, JaeReed wrote:The point I was making about his posturing is valid regardless of the site.
THIS IS HORSE SHIT.
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Post Post #1204 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:35 am

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I was trolling in the start and Jae said I was try harding. Which is how I know it's horse shit. My interaction with the game I'm in is NAI. Frogger was in laundry maf where I tried harder as town when I got into the game. I can link plenty of forum maf games when I try hard as town. If I truly only tried when I was maf, soda and impoetic would be able to read me by now. I'm not some garbage player who plays different depending on my alignment and it pisses me off that you are saying I'm that bad to do so. Since I don't think you're trying to insult, I'm going to assume you're mafia.
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Post Post #1205 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:43 am

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Frog vote Jae
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Post Post #1206 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 2:47 am

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unvote pls I am town
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Post Post #1207 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:00 am

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Prod dodge. Give me until tonight or something.
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Post Post #1208 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:09 am

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Frog is still scum
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Post Post #1209 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:40 am

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In post 1208, Crash wrote:Frog is still scum
why...

tell me why. Because i'm fucking town here.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
Ribbit ribbit." -Transcend
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Post Post #1210 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:59 am

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In post 1191, Trivium wrote:I've been thinking about the game as a whole, and thinking if it would just be better to nolynch day 1 all the time. Sure, scum gets a free kill, but our powerroles get a chance at gathering information before we actually do anything day 2, plus we don't get a mislynch.
Lynches are the only real weapon we have against scum, not lynching is basically giving scum free reign to do what they want. On day 1 a mislynch is usually better than a no lynch because the flip tells us things.
Fro99er wrote:
In post 1208, Crash wrote:Frog is still scum
why...

tell me why. Because i'm fucking town here.
I'm town too so pls don't fall for that Dunnstral inspired push on me
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Post Post #1211 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:31 am

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Big ol' hairy butt with a dangling poop inside
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Post Post #1212 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:30 am

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Transcend please actually contribute something, because you really should at the very least speak your mind without being threatened by a policy lynch.
That's so meta
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Post Post #1213 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:38 am

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It has been mathematically proven that no lynch on D1 decreases town's probability of a win.
"Jae defends his townreads like a fanatic" - Charloux
"On the issue of myself they go back and forth between overpowering paranoia and absolute certainty I'm town... it's kind of exhausting." - Nahdia
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Post Post #1214 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:42 am

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In post 1213, JaeReed wrote:It has been mathematically proven that no lynch on D1 decreases town's probability of a win.
That's not how social game theory works, but I would like to see the source.
That's so meta
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Post Post #1215 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:42 am

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In post 1214, Trivium wrote:
In post 1213, JaeReed wrote:It has been mathematically proven that no lynch on D1 decreases town's probability of a win.
That's not how social game theory works, but I would like to see the source.
Unless you mean scientifically proven through observation and experimentation?
That's so meta
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Post Post #1216 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:03 am

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In post 1215, Trivium wrote:Unless you mean scientifically proven
he said mathematically proven
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Post Post #1217 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:05 am

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In post 1216, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1215, Trivium wrote:Unless you mean scientifically proven
he said mathematically proven
Alright, well then we won't do it. It was simply an idea.
That's so meta
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Post Post #1218 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:06 am

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also we're not nolynching today today
In post 1190, Trivium wrote:So I guess my issue with frogger is that to me his slot is either totally scum or totally town due to his 'towntells'. I'm just not comfortable with saying his slot is 100% town, so he's scum for now. Then again, dunn is pushing him and dunn is scum in my eyes, so I don't really know.
???
In post 1189, Trivium wrote:Froggy then claims he didn't know nancy was the original slot like wtf nancy is still on the front page of the game as living, it's another attempt to towntell because he knows we know he can see nancy in the scum pt.
She never even posted in the scum pt but nice try


In post 1217, Trivium wrote:
In post 1216, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1215, Trivium wrote:Unless you mean scientifically proven
he said mathematically proven
Alright, well then we won't do it. It was simply an idea.
nevermind that, I don't see a reason to nolynch when we've clearly got dead weight in this game.
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Post Post #1219 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:07 am

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In post 1208, Crash wrote:Frog is still scum
You never gave a reason for thinking this slot is scum though
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Post Post #1220 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:08 am

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In post 1218, Dunnstral wrote:also we're not nolynching today today
In post 1190, Trivium wrote:So I guess my issue with frogger is that to me his slot is either totally scum or totally town due to his 'towntells'. I'm just not comfortable with saying his slot is 100% town, so he's scum for now. Then again, dunn is pushing him and dunn is scum in my eyes, so I don't really know.
???
In post 1189, Trivium wrote:Froggy then claims he didn't know nancy was the original slot like wtf nancy is still on the front page of the game as living, it's another attempt to towntell because he knows we know he can see nancy in the scum pt.
She never even posted in the scum pt but nice try



In post 1217, Trivium wrote:
In post 1216, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1215, Trivium wrote:Unless you mean scientifically proven
he said mathematically proven
Alright, well then we won't do it. It was simply an idea.
nevermind that, I don't see a reason to nolynch when we've clearly got dead weight in this game.
How do you know that?
That's so meta
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Post Post #1221 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:12 am

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Why are y'all confused by 1190? Frogger has towntold several times, to me either he's faking it or he's not. If he's not, he must be town, if he is, he must not be. I don't feel comfortable with believing frogger's slot must not be town, because nancy came off as scum and so did RC.
That's so meta
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Post Post #1222 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:12 am

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In post 1221, Trivium wrote:Why are y'all confused by 1190? Frogger has towntold several times, to me either he's faking it or he's not. If he's not, he must be town, if he is, he must not be.
I don't feel comfortable with believing frogger's slot must be town
, because nancy came off as scum and so did RC.
What I meant to say.
That's so meta
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Post Post #1223 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:46 am

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I mean froggy hasn't looked like town!frog and I'll v likely be back there unless he does so. I don't think his emotional responses so far were outside his scum range.
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Post Post #1224 (ISO) » Mon Mar 20, 2017 11:27 am

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In post 1223, JaeReed wrote:I mean froggy hasn't looked like town!frog and I'll v likely be back there unless he does so. I don't think his emotional responses so far were outside his scum range.
And that makes his towntells really odd. Also what do you think about
Trivium wrote:
In post 1218, Dunnstral wrote:also we're not nolynching today today
In post 1190, Trivium wrote:So I guess my issue with frogger is that to me his slot is either totally scum or totally town due to his 'towntells'. I'm just not comfortable with saying his slot is 100% town, so he's scum for now. Then again, dunn is pushing him and dunn is scum in my eyes, so I don't really know.
???
In post 1189, Trivium wrote:Froggy then claims he didn't know nancy was the original slot like wtf nancy is still on the front page of the game as living, it's another attempt to towntell because he knows we know he can see nancy in the scum pt.
This doesn't seem like a joke
She never even posted in the scum pt but nice try



In post 1217, Trivium wrote:
In post 1216, Dunnstral wrote:
In post 1215, Trivium wrote:Unless you mean scientifically proven
he said mathematically proven
Alright, well then we won't do it. It was simply an idea.
nevermind that, I don't see a reason to nolynch when we've clearly got dead weight in this game.
How do you know that?
That's so meta
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