Figuring out interactions in this setup would be interesting, and the Ascetic is basically a named townie that can't be protected. This setup could have some interesting role interactions and claims. Possibly add one town universal-backup instead of a VT?
Posted: Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:58 am
by Randomnamechange
looks decent, although the rolestopper + cop combo might limit town's night power.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 4:06 am
by wgeurts
The idea is that the two cancel each other out. Power roles shouldn't be a means of giving one side more power in my opinion.
Posted: Thu Mar 16, 2017 9:46 am
by Randomnamechange
ok so presumably rolestopper is going to be primarily looking to target his scum buddies to avoid town's investigatives?
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:45 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
you could also rolestop a VT or the tracker if they're being JK'd and shoot them i think
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:46 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
^ that might be the better use since a tracker would know that they were rolestopped (ok they could have been jk'd but theoretically) if they track the kill which makes the whole rolestop pointless
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 7:49 am
by Creature
Wouldn't scum literally rolestop their kill in that case?
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:55 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
In post 6, Creature wrote:Wouldn't scum literally rolestop their kill in that case?
that's roleblocker
rolestopper stops roles from targetting the target without commuting them
Posted: Fri Mar 17, 2017 8:56 am
by gigabyteTroubadour
oh wait no nvm you're right LOL
Posted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 5:31 am
by Randomnamechange
also if a negative result for tracking gave the same result as them hitting a rolestopped person it would be fine
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:50 am
by Sukima
Mafia seem really powerful while the rolestopper is alive, because it singlehandedly trumps over all of town's power between rolestopping the kill target to stop the JK protect, or rolestopping the killer/vanilla cop to prevent tracking or JK roleblocking.
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:26 am
by Randomnamechange
In post 10, Sukima wrote:Mafia seem really powerful while the rolestopper is alive, because it singlehandedly trumps over all of town's power between rolestopping the kill target to stop the JK protect, or rolestopping the killer/vanilla cop to prevent tracking or JK roleblocking.
you cant rolestop the kill target bc it also rolestops the mafia kill
Posted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 9:49 am
by Sukima
randomidget wrote:
In post 10, Sukima wrote:Mafia seem really powerful while the rolestopper is alive, because it singlehandedly trumps over all of town's power between rolestopping the kill target to stop the JK protect, or rolestopping the killer/vanilla cop to prevent tracking or JK roleblocking.
you cant rolestop the kill target bc it also rolestops the mafia kill
Oh. The rolestop I'm used to seeing is the one that doesn't block kills. Still absurdly powerful that it ends up preventing JK roleblocking or tracking on the killer/VC.
In post 10, Sukima wrote:Mafia seem really powerful while the rolestopper is alive, because it singlehandedly trumps over all of town's power between rolestopping the kill target to stop the JK protect, or rolestopping the killer/vanilla cop to prevent tracking or JK roleblocking.
you cant rolestop the kill target bc it also rolestops the mafia kill
Oh. The rolestop I'm used to seeing is the one that doesn't block kills. Still absurdly powerful that it ends up preventing JK roleblocking or tracking on the killer/VC.
the thing is that if it displays a different (untargetable message the person is conf rolestopped or ascetic which leads to scum using it as a WIFOM tool)