Spring Fever (Endgame)

[Eddiebyte]

aelita don't listen to eddie he's being a jerk <:/

like i get your point and i do think there's something sketchy about how vecna has been handling his claim. let me see at least though how he's responded to me

talk to me in the pt though eddie while i catch up because from your last posts it doesn't seem like you're on the same page as me about aelita

~giggles

[Eddiebyte]

I asked how good his scum game is. nobody answered me.

[Eddiebyte]

I asked how good his scum game is. nobody answered me.

vecna? he hard pocketed me last time so i'll be honest i have no clue how to read him

never have seen him as town

[Heartless]

lol

gork if this were YOU he was mindlessly tunneling i think you'd be singing a different tune

I mean friend....it doesn't seem that mindless?
I mean I can't follow it at all, but I am wondering scum motivation to focus you or me.'
Not seeing it.

Maybe that's the point?

Don't think it's quite a tunnel.

when you have reached the level of needless antagonism as 2548 and the level of pedantry as 2603... it's a tunnel

[Eddiebyte]

okay pt we go

[Heartless]

but... you know... maybe i AM being unfair and cruel just because he is pushing me...

[McMenno]

I'm gonna like

skim vecna's iso from pyp

probably maybe

~narna

[Eddiebyte]

Can we get to lynching now?

wanted to see the vc but i'm going to vote for whoever has more votes between vecna and dunn

Im not really sure Im buying into the reasons here for why theyre continuing to scumread me. My concerns I had with some of their posts are valid. Them making a large wall to appear towny is something id be expecting of a scum Giga just as well, trying hard to look like theyre being inquisitive/thoughtfull. The fact they announced -THREE TIMES- that they were writing this wall post only strenghthens that feeling that they were doing it just for towncred.

The fact im also liking some of their reads on Transcend has nothing to do with the other fact, and the fact that im going back and forth over an opinion (and having some doubts as well) while rereading 65+ pages should really not be surprising.

Answer me this giga, why would you be worried about opinions changing? Plenty of stuff happened. Your early game was EXTREMELY scummy fmpov, and plenty other people felt the same way. The way you went to write long posts about everyone voting you after 20 pages was another cause for concern imo.

??? your first paragraph makes 0 sense. i had a really long day and eddie was trying to hype me up like that, that's basically the entire motive. but even then how is it even a scummy thing to try to be townread? like?? i'm not making the connection to scum motive here. it just looks like you're planning a future push on us

fair enough on the second part i guess but the first paragraph is still a HUGE concern??

I'm not worried about your opinions changing, it's just I don't really like the thought process I'm seeing. Obviously my early game was scummy,

that was the whole point and I even addressed that in my wall

. Like that's exactly why I analyzed the votes on me, because I was making a shallow push to see how people jumped on it. Most the votes were from town. Tell me where the scum motive is here please?

And I would have at least liked some engagement on my earlier questions. Why does Aelita look coached, for example?

~giggles

[Eddiebyte]

Lynch dunnstral in next 8 pages or I will do something

((if it's replace out could we still lynch vecna))

Youre not gonna get me lynched, and the fact youre even trying to is worrying.

you should know better. A lot better.

Should I?

I've never seen your townplay as far as I know and I'm still scumreading you so far.

[Eddiebyte]

Wtf is this nonsense man? Breaking up a 2-person town-block? You really think me having some day1 hold-backs on the frogger slot is "breaking up townblocks"? This is just a fake-ass reasoning to try to get a likely lynch pushed through on a slot that is suspicious of you.

My reads arent all over the place, ive placed a nice coloured thing at the end of my catchup. Sure, its changing - thats what town do.

I meant in general and just gave an example.

Your attack on fire sucks because I'm pretty sure this is his towngame and you're attacking him for something as vapid as shitposting. Give me something more solid on him.

Your scumread on Alisae/Fro99er is equally vague and I'm struggling to really see how you came to that conclusion even from what I remember of your catchup posts.

You still haven't told me why Aelita sounds coached, either.

And your townread on us looks like the kind of read you'd have on someone you might push later.

Like it seems you're just attacking well-townread people when I'm reading the gamestate as having mostly town cohesion.

[Eddiebyte]

oh and heartless too

[Eddiebyte]

if those are actual genuine scumreads though i need to see more because i just flat out dont

[Eddiebyte]

UNVOTE:

Vecna feels like the scum wagon

I mean I was hoping I could let Vecna be the leading wagon for a little longer to see how this advances but talk to me about why you came to this conclusion?

[Eddiebyte]

gbt at one point you got to realise... you don't scumread me you just scumread my playstyle. fact.

compelling case here

it's ok you're like the last of my scumreads i'd lynch at the moment so you can hang around a little longer

[McMenno]

I'm gonna like

skim vecna's iso from pyp

probably maybe

~narna

Okay, I haven't changed my mind on the scumread.

[Eddiebyte]

Tone is a pretty big thing and you've switched into hyper-aggressive. This is an inconsistency. Is it possible that you're frustrated because you want to lynch Vecna and that isn't going to be as easy as when he was ThinkBig?

this is what we call a "stretch"

i still dont get what issue ppl are having with aelita though

[McMenno]

~TD

[Eddiebyte]

jjh927:

Would you like to be power town with me?
Select all that apply.

[] Yes
[] No
[] Maybe
[] Applesauce

u forgot me

god i miss kraska

but rly trans what is even town about jj

[Alisae]

McMenno why are you signing your posts with names of the scumteam of Elemental Trinity and why haven't you signed off as Wisdom yet?

[Vecna]

The reason I want you lynched is simple: my brain is telling me you are scum, because when I see your posts, I cannot help but think of someone who tricked me into believing they're town but were scum, and I refuse to let that happen again. Therefore, I promised myself that I will always scumread someone if there's even a miniscule amount of evidence against them to avoid being tricked again like that.

Basically, it's better to be paranoid and wrong than to be too trusting and feel like an idiot afterwards.

Well at least thats honest. Guess ill just completely ignore you as well then since that doesnt seem to be anything I can actually influence or interact with.

Its not all how mafia is played though.

Why are you afraid of me tricking you?

Why arent you afraid of Titus doing it?

Or Firebringer?

Hell, why arent you more afraid of McMenno tricking you into thinking he's town?

Why would me tricking you feel like more of an idiot than any of the other players in this game?

[Eddiebyte]

God dammit giga.

alisae this is getting out of hand

~giggles

The reason I want you lynched is simple: my brain is telling me you are scum, because when I see your posts, I cannot help but think of someone who tricked me into believing they're town but were scum, and I refuse to let that happen again. Therefore, I promised myself that I will always scumread someone if there's even a miniscule amount of evidence against them to avoid being tricked again like that.

Basically, it's better to be paranoid and wrong than to be too trusting and feel like an idiot afterwards.

Well at least thats honest. Guess ill just completely ignore you as well then since that doesnt seem to be anything I can actually influence or interact with.

Its not all how mafia is played though.

Why are you afraid of me tricking you?

Why arent you afraid of Titus doing it?

Or Firebringer?

Hell, why arent you more afraid of McMenno tricking you into thinking he's town?

Why would me tricking you feel like more of an idiot than any of the other players in this game?

vecna not to be a bitch but i think the answer here is kind of transparent if you were actually trying to read into aelita

i'll let her speak for herself but still come on

[Vecna]

What conclusions are you going to get from me flipping town here?

none

removing someone pushing unflinchingly bad reads while not paying attention to what's going on and reevaluating... is positive town utility

And you would know my reads are unflinchingly bad....why exactly?

You havent exactly done much this game, or would you argue against that point?

What part of my points ive made against you do you feel are wrong?

Why would you not adress these issues, instead of using them as an excuse to be fine with a townlynch? Like, improve your own play? Because usefull yourself.

Because right now, theres a lot more town-utility in lynching you if youre gonna keep up this playstyle, even if youre town (but be assured if you make it clear to me that you are, I wont be the one lynching you at least for some weak-ass reasoning).

[Eddiebyte]

Maybe we could do with some distance?

Aelita; completely excluding points regarding yourself and Vecna, talk to me about Eddie.

aelita can you actually answer this

[Vecna]

seems like a harsh judgment to make of someone who has just caught up.
if you think vecna is scum, then whatevs, but if he is town hes not someone i would want to casually lynch without at least thinking about it.

lol

gork if this were YOU he was mindlessly tunneling i think you'd be singing a different tune

and if vecna can dish out the antagonism i think he's a big boy enough to get some of it back

Mindlessly tunneling?

How about you adress my reasons for scumreading you, isntead of shading my shit?

This type of crap is not helping your case at all if youre town and is only gonna make me deep down harder.

[Randomnamechange]

can someone explain the dunn case for me?

i think it's exceedingly likely scum defended thinkbig here

thinkbig from here = beeboy from game of thrones

that seems tenuous as a reason to lynch someone.
which game of thrones is this?

McMenno why are you signing your posts with names of the scumteam of Elemental Trinity and why haven't you signed off as Wisdom yet?

bc that would require making a wall post.