Mini Normal 1917: :X Mafia (Game over!)

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2200 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:05 am

i cc backup vt

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2201 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:05 am

paul's up now

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2202 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:03 am

In post 2196, Backhand wrote:I'm a Backup Vanilla Townsperson. Good thing for me waffles bit it so I gained his power.

lol

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2203 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:03 am

Im da real motion detector

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2204 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:05 am

Forgot to add im also a neighbor.

With klik/pp

Cheetory6 · Post Post #2205 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:10 am

Can you walk through what happened in the neighborhood and what was going through your head when PP was getting lynched?

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2206 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:39 am

i forgot he replaced klik. Nothing rlly happened cuz neighborhood was closed after first 48 hours D1 and klik/pp was lynched. Klick said he TRed but I was kinda sus of buddying cuz neighbors arent guaranteed town.

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2207 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:02 am

said he TRed me*

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2208 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:30 am

Wair doid no one claim rolestopper? Because then backup is useless right??

Backhand · Post Post #2209 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 9:33 am

Unclear if the rolestopper will/should claim, but also kraska and cheet have not claimed.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2210 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:08 pm

they shouldnt

ftr i'm pretty sure the scumteam can figure out who the rolestopper is from any vantage point of unconfirmed town (assuming it's not vedith or hiraki) but i need to double check

Hiraki · Post Post #2211 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 12:47 pm

In post 2187, Grendel wrote:The whole reason I barely engaged you directly this game is b/c your insistent on dragging ppl who have their own opinians.

I don't think questioning people on their opinions is dragging them down by any means. I also don't intend to start an argument here so I'm gonna drop this.

In post 2188, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Wait Hiraki who do u scumread rn?

Said this earlier today.

In post 2195, Cheetory6 wrote:Hiraki being this demotivated by Neroflip doesn't seem real

I can tell you very easily that I am trying to muscle my way back into my norm - if you feel this way then I have done a better job then I currently mentally believe I am performing

In post 2204, NotTheRealPaul wrote:Forgot to add im also a neighbor.

Does this mean there are 2 neighborhoods?

MuttonChopMagic · Post Post #2212 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:56 pm

this is just to help people setup spec so no fear
neighbours are not prs and are not weighted period balancing wise ever with the nrg

Hiraki · Post Post #2213 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 1:57 pm

because neighbors can still be town or scum?

MuttonChopMagic · Post Post #2214 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 2:11 pm

pretty much. neighbours don't actually affect balancing for some reasons that you could pm someone for (mastina has a good post on it somewhere) if you really cared (repent!)
there's even some mods who roll the setup and role neighbours completely separate after so it /can't/ relate to alignment

Grendel · Post Post #2215 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:56 pm

In post 2212, MuttonChopMagic wrote:this is just to help people setup spec so no fear
neighbours are not prs and are not weighted period balancing wise ever with the nrg

okay, I thought that they were weighted to be a little more then a VT

I'm alright with setup spec, but not good at doing it off the cuff.

It sounded weird to me to have another investigative role outside of the loyal friendly in the first place. Was thinking that NPual was going to be the role stopper, not a motion detector.

Yesterday I was thinking that: {RoleStopper, RoleStopper back up, Friendly loyal neighbor, and a neighborhood} was balanced. Rolestopper is more powerful then a doctor, and the friendly is a bit better then a cop. Then the back up and neighborhood take up more slots. Together that be 5-6 non-vanillia roles. Which is a lot as is for a mini normal on this site.

Throwing a motion detector, and back up for the motion detector... it seems like a lot to me. Even subtracting the neighborhood.

Have standards changed for mini normal set-ups here in the past four to five months?

Grendel · Post Post #2216 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:57 pm

Scum have also flipped a Goon, and don't have full day talk.

I should check and see some of Implosion's previous set ups tomorrow.

Grendel · Post Post #2217 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:01 pm

In post 2190, kraska77 wrote:
In post 2181, Grendel wrote:seven power roles in this set up if nobody is lying
They're backups, not power roles. I just checked the wiki, including backups without primary roles is allowed in normal games. Also Hiraki gains nothing by claiming backup motion detector. Also you are scum

What about scum?

Can scum can have back ups of town roles outside of open set ups?

Grendel · Post Post #2218 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:14 pm

In post 2195, Cheetory6 wrote:Grendel/Hiraki distancing?
Hiraki being this demotivated by Neroflip doesn't seem real and something about Grendel's push reads forced to me.

It reminded me of a game I played with Lil Uzi Vert where he as scum claimed a power role while in a masscliam.

I fell for it because I thought, "scum wouldn't do that when they could slide by with a vt claim," Also the role he fake claimed is pretty ironic given this situation, he claimed

Motion Detector

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Grendel · Post Post #2219 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:34 pm

Spoiler:

That being said Hiraki probably is telling the truth about his role. Otherwise he'd have to be scum with NotPual, which is

anyway

UNVOTE:

I'll treat Hiraki as if he is town for a moment and look over some other players tomarrow. I still think that scum back up is a possibility given the amount of perceived power roles this set up has.

Cheetory6 · Post Post #2220 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 5:47 pm

In post 2195, Cheetory6 wrote:Grendel/Hiraki distancing?

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2221 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:20 pm

@hiraki are u saying ur in a neighborhood too? I was neighbors with pp/klik the D1 lynch

NotTheRealPaul · Post Post #2222 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:25 pm

In post 2220, Cheetory6 wrote:
In post 2195, Cheetory6 wrote:Grendel/Hiraki distancing?

are u bringing attention to that or just saying it was crappy in hindsight

Hiraki · Post Post #2223 (ISO) » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:47 pm

In post 2221, NotTheRealPaul wrote:@hiraki are u saying ur in a neighborhood too? I was neighbors with pp/klik the D1 lynch

Cheetory/MCM/Kraska are in a neighborhood too, IIRC.

gigabyteTroubadour · Post Post #2224 (ISO) » Fri Jul 07, 2017 12:00 am

In post 2223, Hiraki wrote:
In post 2221, NotTheRealPaul wrote:@hiraki are u saying ur in a neighborhood too? I was neighbors with pp/klik the D1 lynch
Cheetory/MCM/Kraska are in a neighborhood too, IIRC.

no, Mcm just used his friendly neighbor on them

not the same thing as neighborizer

havent had the chance to work out claims in my head