Open 691: Jungle Republic (ENDGAME)

[TheBrie]

VOTE: Almost50
Because I don't know anyone else.

[TheBrie]

Two hydras. Generation X and Eurotrash. Read the living player list in the first post.

Pedit: What he said too.

[TheBrie]

Well, I was going to vote Gen X, but that avatar convinced me not to.

Vote TheBrie

For not confirming.

Hannah should've gotten at least 3 votes against Adam. Ken was an early fave but then his edits went to shit.

Is this supposed to mean something?

[TheBrie]

I hadn't realized that we only had 7 days. Sorry.

What did Hellfire's last post explain? Is that why he was asking about PTs?

[TheBrie]

FugitiveMoose and SimplePlan haven't showed up yet.

[TheBrie]

@Mod

Why is chitownmvp01 listed as not voting. He's not even in the game. You replaced him the Wisdom who is listed as voting.

[TheBrie]

UNVOTE:
I wasn't voting Almost for any good reason, and don't want to risk the wagin growing before I think it through.

[TheBrie]

Almost did seem to over react a little though. You can't get that strong of a read just from people voting you for little stated reason. But shouting scum at people might be a effective way of scum hunting. I can't tell about either side yet.

[TheBrie]

I can't see anything that indicates A50 was thinking more of one scum group than the other, so I'd like to hear about that.
I can say from my limited experience with A50 that he's a fairly calm player who doesn't panic when found out as scum. But that's one game, so it's likely not worth much.

[TheBrie]

92 is a scumclaim btw

VOTE: thebrie

So scum doesn't want to stay on a big wagon? Or am I suppose to be partnered with A50?
And what's so contradictory about my two posts. I unvoted, then I gave my thoughts.

[TheBrie]

A50 seems to be making more sense than Tails here. To me at least. But if we lynch town today and the WW kill a townie tonight, that puts at at 2-3-5. But then with this much scum in the game, there's a reasonable chance of hitting scum at random.

So I'm not quite ready to lynch Tails, though I'm slightly suspicious of him.

[TheBrie]

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Also claimed mafia

-T

By voting for Tails? Maybe he is Mafia, but you didn't give a reason.
And why Mafia as opposed to werewolves?

[TheBrie]

Why Brie over dunker?

Brie was trying awfully hard to distance from Almost when everything she claims to know about him as a player should be causing her to vote him. She outright stated that Almost was not playing like he does as town, yet she refused to vote him. She then continues to be noncommittal while avoiding the wagon. Also look at her fencesit on me. She's actively avoiding controversial wagons.

I never said I knew anything about Almost's town play. I only know him as scum, and he is pretty good as scum. I couldn't pick him from his play, only from logic. So I have no idea what he is this time.

[TheBrie]

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Also claimed mafia

-T

VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

Random completely out of context sheep.

A50 guarantees ww lynch.
Dunker knows he can get two back to back lynches if A50 wrong. If A50 correct, zero accountability sheep. No questioning either. I like this vote and will follow.

That makes a lot of sense. I think I'll follow along on this.
VOTE: Dunkerdoodles

[TheBrie]

@Almost I also want the case on Tails. Yes, he's been pishing a little hard and been misrepping, but I don't know I can what I've gotten from you so far.

[TheBrie]

I'm reading A50 as town here based on ISO from our previous game. As scum he's more into defending players, questioning players and poking holes in scum reads against town. I never saw him push like this.
I still don't like Dunker's vote on Tails, but i don't think the wagon is a bad one.
VOTE: Tails

[TheBrie]

though i dont know brie and i might reconsider if i really scumread her later

I dont like gamma or radja right now, i might vote one of the hydras

Any specifics of what you don't like about them?
I have trouble remembering everyone when there's more than 9 and throwing hydras into the mix makes things more complicated.

[TheBrie]

Scum do and do not do things for all kinds of reasons.
I think it's scums best interest of scum to get on a town wagon there's a solid reason for. In this situation, it might reflect badly on them if Tails happens to flip town.

[TheBrie]

I asked you a question, Brie!

Sorry, I missed that.
I think Tails is more likely to be scum than Dunker. He's done a few scummy things, and I trust Almost.
Probably a flimsy reason, but I feel a bit lost in this game. Life's been overwhelming lately and I've got a cold.

[TheBrie]

OK, slight change of plans: Lynch ME today, and when I flip TOWN you can go back and lynch Tails for me on D2. Does THIS sound fair enough?

You being town doesn't mean your reads are correct. I believe Titus already thinks you're town, so this won't help.

Yes, I know that's slightly contradictory to my last post, but my mind is refusing to have one opinion. Seeing all sides is a nuisance sometimes.

[TheBrie]

Sorry, I missed that.
I think Tails is more likely to be scum than Dunker. He's done a few scummy things, and I trust Almost.
Probably a flimsy reason, but I feel a bit lost in this game. Life's been overwhelming lately and I've got a cold.

Hope you feel better soon
What scummy things? Remember, you're trying to convince my vote here.

I just looked and there wasn't as much as I'd thought. Mostly his bad argument for Almost being scum. Along with that is a little misrepping and a few unreasonable town reads. Which could be inexperience. And now I've almost convinced myself to unvote. I'll have to rethink this. I probably won't be back till tomorrow. Got to do life.

[TheBrie]

The more I think about the Tails wagon, the less I like it. He didn't start good, but got better as things went on. I'm not feeling up to reanalyzing things much, but I can see the problems with Wisdom. And I'm figuring that if you've got it wrong, any lynch is still better than no lynch. I hope.
VOTE: Wisdom
Happy birthday.

[TheBrie]

If the people trying to lynch me actually want to talk to me, I'll try to answer. And ISO any if my games and you'll see I'm always uncertain and change my mind a lot.

[TheBrie]

I hadn't realized. I thought someone might have unvoted.
I'm just a plain VT. Not seer like Almost was thinking.

[TheBrie]

OK.. I'll give you a little space.. go check the same game I referred both Titus and Euro to. TheBrie was Town and she actually made it to endgame. Go check her play and tell me how different it is from hers here.

Are you saying that her play there is different from her play here or that it's the same? Because it sounds like you're dismantling your own reads.

I'm pretty sure he meant to say it's the same.

[TheBrie]

but I can see the problems with Wisdom

What are these problems?

Wisdom won't even try to make a case on me, says he doesn't do cases, blatantly ignores newbies except for me, and my biggest town reads were voting him.
When I have trouble sorting the game, I try to follow my town reads when they make good sense. I'm going to try sorting things out more pretty soon.

(I'm not sure when I stop being a newbie. This is my fifth game. First open. Second game bigger than 9 players.)

[TheBrie]

*;ole; = likely!

That's what you get for responding to MOTHERFUCKING MOTHERFUCKERS! (I hope you got enough).

You're lucky I decided voting based on profanity was a stupid idea.

[TheBrie]

When I have trouble sorting the game, I try to follow my town reads when they make good sense.

So why did you follow Almost when he couldn't give a case on me?

Cause I was tired and he was so confident. I'd have wavered more if you were closer to getting lynched. Though I probably should have been more careful with a short day.

@Wisdom Okay, I won't be a newbie then. I'll try to be amazing.

[TheBrie]

How is Raya getting away with only two post five days ago? And Hellfire hasn't posted in four days. I know post count isn't AI, but why hasn't anyone tried to make them talk.
Hellfire basically quit after the Hydra PT was sorted out and people stopped scum reading him.

[TheBrie]

I'm thinking there's a couple scum in NotTheRealPaul, GenerationX and Hellfire. And I obviously think Wisdom is scum.
Dunker and Tails are nulls right now. Raya isn't possible to read.
Vedith sounds townie, so does Titus.
Almost is 90% certain town. Don't lynch him if you have other options.

[TheBrie]

I followed Almost because I TR him AND he was confident. I didn't TR him for confidence.
Wisdom was asked for a case, you weren't. It's true you haven't commented much, but you've done less in general. Maybe I'm leaning town on you too early, but not everyone can be scum.
Also, what's the point in starting another wagon? I can only vote one person at a time.

[TheBrie]

I'm going to bed now. It's after 9pm and I had work today on top of my cold. Don't have internet after 10 any way. Hopefully I'll see you in a few days.

[TheBrie]

a50 seriously
seriously

Don't put the blame on me. On D1 I was on Tails. On D2 I called for a Math lynch and YOU kept defending them. It wasn't until it became apparent one of you will be lynched that you switched your read on them again, so it doesn't really help me trust you. Be stubborn and I'll be as much stubborn. I wasn't gonna lynch Math or Wisdom over anyone else in the game. Everyone who TRs a slot then "suddenly" switches their reads without being an investigative/informative cannot be trusted. Period.

Sorry if the above comes off as hostile. It's not meant to be. It's an explanation of what happened and how I thought and felt. I wanted TAILS lynched on D1 (fact). I pushed math for 2 days and you insisted they were Town (fact). I'm not the only one to blame here.

I wish I'd tried harder to follow you on Tails. Sheeping you when you moved off was my mistake. If I had found something to stick to on tails, the game might have been different.

That said, it's quite funny that you were the only player who knew me, Almost, and you were TRing me. If you'd managed to convince them to not lynch me, you would have been my best friend.