Mini Normal 1919: Endgame

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Official Vote Count

Klazam

(2): Fykus, Empiricus

L-1

Fykus

(2): Klazam, Mulch

L-1

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

The day 5 deadline is in

: (expired on 2017-07-10 15:52:15)

[Mulch]

I'm trusting my rule of 3 lol

[Mulch]

If fykus is town shame on him for lurking and not doing any discussion and acting weak.

Klazam deserves to win this no matter what allignment

[Klazam]

So I just did a quick ISO, and Klazam

is

scumhunting/sorting. The fykus case is incredibly flawed on its main point, and mulch just aimlessly sheeped it.

Spoiler:

exactly. you know i can read you as town or not. but youre making a big ass deal out of it and taking it too seriously right now.

Are you there? If so, respond to this question in the next 5-10 mins. if you miss that time slot ill ignore the answer you come up with.

Why are you scum?

okay yeah. VOTE: Sergtacos Youre being OVERLY aware of your selfmeta and manipulating your play to fit within that meta. Die. Im sorry bro, i didnt want to hang you on D1 but there it is.

The thing here, is that your reactions is EXACTLY what i expected you to say. Exact. so that reads to me youre thinking about what im expecting to see and giving me that, which is scummy as fuck.

WHOA WAIT- You want your vote to stay on me, then try to say "TvT" in the same post. explain.

its not that you called him scummy, its the manner in which you did.

VOTE: two-face

I'm just extremely disappointed that you didn't go "oh I see your point, that could be true", that'd have conftowned you to me. You're too careful.

Still a null to me

Mulch- 6 pages of nothing that important then a couple pages of me and sergtacos.

Being too defensive

He's focused on defending instead of going with it and pushing others.

Taco, I could care less about your read of me, I'm just trying to figure out your alignment, and you're not doing things right

I've told you, defensiveness by itself is okay but you're only doing that without scumhunting. Focused on self= scumny

2face: i just iso'd you. its literally consisting of you attacking people for expressing suspicion of you. 100%. you call people liars for trying to read you- the first one because that person said you overreacted- which you did- then the second because you placed a omgus vote- WHICH YOU DID, IN ESSENCE.

Then your ad hom attacks on me. <sergtaco: ad hom = ad hominem = attacking the person instead of addressing the arugement, which is what he did by insinuating im bad enough at this game and i need to go play newbs>

Oh, while you did that, you also tried to say that i thought you were scummy BECAUSE you called someone scummy? FALSE. I said its the manner in which you did so.

you okay, bud?

also emp, this is a response from boon about fykus's 1092 regarding me.

[Empiricus]

What I'd really like right now is for Fykus to come in and present a case on why he thinks that Klazam is scum based on his own reasoning from the game. I want to be clear that I'm not really townreading Fykus either at the moment and if I don't see some solid reasoning from him he'll sink to prime scum in my eyes.

@Empiricus

First, look at the setup. Does it make sense for us to have THREE investigatives?

The second thing:

Tchill KNEW he was going to die. Why would he put Klazam as his top town?

Both of the scum put Fykus in their "null scumreads" with 2 town. The rule of three is that if scum say X, Y, Z is scum or villager, there is at least one scum in there

The dispersion of the investigative powers do give some overlap that muddles things for them, in that the gunsmith can find roles with guns (one/two cops in town + two or three mafia depending on mafia doctor), the vanilla-cop can find vanillas (most of town + goon/goons), and only the odd-night cop can actually have reliable results.
Balance-wise I'm unsure, but it could work which means that the game setup in itself is not really factoring in to how I think.

Tchills acting at the moment near his lynch could be a way to create distance between Carcalilly and Klazam, since Carcalilly also had that early bad Klazam case which could have been a way to separate them from each other early.


I'm not really sold on the rule of three, but I'm prepared to change my vote to Fykus depending on what Fykus next move is.

[Empiricus]

So I just did a quick ISO, and Klazam

is

scumhunting/sorting. The fykus case is incredibly flawed on its main point, and mulch just aimlessly sheeped it.

Spoiler:

exactly. you know i can read you as town or not. but youre making a big ass deal out of it and taking it too seriously right now.

Are you there? If so, respond to this question in the next 5-10 mins. if you miss that time slot ill ignore the answer you come up with.

Why are you scum?

okay yeah. VOTE: Sergtacos Youre being OVERLY aware of your selfmeta and manipulating your play to fit within that meta. Die. Im sorry bro, i didnt want to hang you on D1 but there it is.

The thing here, is that your reactions is EXACTLY what i expected you to say. Exact. so that reads to me youre thinking about what im expecting to see and giving me that, which is scummy as fuck.

WHOA WAIT- You want your vote to stay on me, then try to say "TvT" in the same post. explain.

its not that you called him scummy, its the manner in which you did.

VOTE: two-face

I'm just extremely disappointed that you didn't go "oh I see your point, that could be true", that'd have conftowned you to me. You're too careful.

Still a null to me

Mulch- 6 pages of nothing that important then a couple pages of me and sergtacos.

Being too defensive

He's focused on defending instead of going with it and pushing others.

Taco, I could care less about your read of me, I'm just trying to figure out your alignment, and you're not doing things right

I've told you, defensiveness by itself is okay but you're only doing that without scumhunting. Focused on self= scumny

2face: i just iso'd you. its literally consisting of you attacking people for expressing suspicion of you. 100%. you call people liars for trying to read you- the first one because that person said you overreacted- which you did- then the second because you placed a omgus vote- WHICH YOU DID, IN ESSENCE.

Then your ad hom attacks on me. <sergtaco: ad hom = ad hominem = attacking the person instead of addressing the arugement, which is what he did by insinuating im bad enough at this game and i need to go play newbs>

Oh, while you did that, you also tried to say that i thought you were scummy BECAUSE you called someone scummy? FALSE. I said its the manner in which you did so.

you okay, bud?

also emp, this is a response from boon about fykus's 1092 regarding me.

Well, that seems to me that Fykus case in 1092 was primarily surface then.

[Mulch]

But why would a doomed goon associate themselves with klazam like that

[Klazam]

What I'd really like right now is for Fykus to come in and present a case on why he thinks that Klazam is scum based on his own reasoning from the game. I want to be clear that I'm not really townreading Fykus either at the moment and if I don't see some solid reasoning from him he'll sink to prime scum in my eyes.

problematically, fykus's reaction to this will be NAI.

think about what i said earlier regarding me not making a fykus case because of confbias, and realize it applies to fykus here also.

[Mulch]

Yeah, that horrible case is a point towards fykus tbh lol

[Empiricus]

What I'd really like right now is for Fykus to come in and present a case on why he thinks that Klazam is scum based on his own reasoning from the game. I want to be clear that I'm not really townreading Fykus either at the moment and if I don't see some solid reasoning from him he'll sink to prime scum in my eyes.

problematically, fykus's reaction to this will be NAI.

think about what i said earlier regarding me not making a fykus case because of confbias, and realize it applies to fykus here also.

Well, I'm interested in how he reasons, not exactly why he thinks that you are the scum. Fykus posts are short and don't really show how he thinks and reasons about things, I'd like to have some kind of insight in how he thinks to weigh against his earlier posts.

[Klazam]

fair enough.

[Empiricus]

But why would a doomed goon associate themselves with klazam like that

This is one of the things that could be wrapped in layer upon layer of WIFOM, in my opinion.

[Empiricus]

On the other hand, both Klazam and Fykus have scummy things in their posts, and I don't really wish to drag this out any more than it already has since my brain has started melting again thinking about this game.

VOTE: Fykus

I hope this was not a bad choice

[ThinkBig]

Official Vote Count

Klazam

(1): Fykus

Fykus

(3): Klazam, Mulch, Empiricus

<-- LYNCH

Not Voting

(0):

None.

With 4 alive, it takes 3 to lynch.

The day 5 deadline is in

: (expired on 2017-07-10 15:52:15)

A WIN CONDITION HAS BEEN ACHIEVED!!

[ThinkBig]

Endgame

Fykus was lynched day 5!

He was a

Mafia Goon

.

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TOWN WINS!

[ThinkBig]

The Setup

Mafia odd-night roleblocker
2x Mafia goon
1 Town vigilante
1 Town odd night cop
1 town gunsmith
7x vanilla townies

Daychat enabled by default.

Player	Role
Carcalilly	Mafia Odd-night Roleblocker
Mulch	Vanilla Town
shuffleplay	Town Vigilante
Klazam	Vanilla townie
Dunkerdoodles	Town Gunsmith
Tchill13	Mafia Goon
Trivium	Vanilla Town
TwoFace	Vanilla Town
Empiricus	Vanilla Town
Branson	Vanilla Town
SergTacos	Vanilla Town
Fykus	Mafia Goon
Boonskiies	Town Odd-night Cop

Night 1 actions

• Vedith shoots Carcalilly (results: Carcalilly will die)
  
• Carcalilly shoots Vedith (results: Vedith will die)
  
• Carcalilly roleblocks tacos (results: tacos is blocked)
  
• Boonskiies investigates mulch (results: Mulch is not mafia)
  
• Dunkerdoodles investigates tacos (results: tacos does not have a gun)

Night 2 actions

• Fykus shoots tacos (results: tacos will die)
  
• Dunkerdoodles investigates Fykus (results: Fykus has a gun)

Night 3 Actions

• Fykus kills
  
• Boonskiies cops Dunkerdoodles
  
• Dunkerdoodles investigates TwoFace

Night 4 Actions

• Fykus kills TwoFace

Game Links

• Mafia Thread
  
• Dead/Spectator Thread
  
• Moderator Thread
  
• Review Thread (to be released whenever Nexus gets around to it)

[ThinkBig]

Thank you everyone for playing and making my mini normal a success. There were no prods this game and only two replacements, a record low for any game I modded or played.

I would like to thank Fykus for sticking it out and playing to the end. His play was impressive after losing both his partners by the beginning of day 2.

Upcoming games

• Clash of the gods is now in signups!
  
• A large normal is in review. Please /pre-in today!

The game is now open for endgame discussion. Good job everyone. Thank you for keeping this game relatively toxic free.

[Klazam]

[TwoFace]

God damn boon. Hope you are site banned for a year.

[ThinkBig]

I'll update the OP when I get home.

[Fykus]

Thanks for the game everyone. Teebs you're definitely the best mod I've had in a game before, thanks for hosting. Its refreshing to see a mod actually care about the game they're hosting. <3

[Sergtacos]

[Sergtacos]

Thanks for the game everyone. Teebs you're definitely the best mod I've had in a game before, thanks for hosting. Its refreshing to see a mod actually care about the game they're hosting. <3

xD i wasted ur kill lmao wooooo

[Maestro]

Oh my lordy this Town

GG all, was fun to watch!

[ThinkBig]

Thanks for the game everyone. Teebs you're definitely the best mod I've had in a game before, thanks for hosting. Its refreshing to see a mod actually care about the game they're hosting. <3

Thank you!