Open 692 - Two-fold Matrix6 (Game Over)

[Thor665]

How do I make sense as Werewolf with the missing kills sweet lips?

[Thor665]

Oooooh - little hole in your bad theory, huh?
Got a problem with a second obv. town existing, don't you?
Thanks for playing.
::mic drop::

[Something_Smart]

Now you're ignoring the possibility of you being shot?

[Something_Smart]

The N1 kill was either or a no kill (which Vedith has intentionally done before) or stopped by the JK.

N2 and N3 any number of things could have happened, including Titus stopping the mafia kill again, Umlaut stopping the WW kill, and both scum killing the night targets (who both softed very obviously).

[Something_Smart]

You're shading me like crazy while still somehow townreading me, and neither Vedith nor Judge makes a lick of sense as Ari's partner.

[Thor665]

Now you're ignoring the possibility of you being shot?

So you're saying the Mafia tried to kill me a few times?
Why?

You're shading me like crazy while still somehow townreading me, and neither Vedith nor Judge makes a lick of sense as Ari's partner.

I haven't been townreading you since Umlaut's claim and said as much.
So you're right about the "shade" because I am calling you likely scum.

[Thor665]

How does me being Wolf make sense with me killing Comm?

[Something_Smart]

not gonna answer

[Something_Smart]

I did not intend to post that lol

not gonna answer a question I literally just answered @1880

[Thor665]

not gonna answer

I would say that's a good defense, because every answer will make your case look more and more ridiculous.
But I'll agree that's only to my benefit, not yours.
Remember yesterday when I was assured Mafia?
Now I'm assured Wolf.
Your case is bollocks.

[Something_Smart]

You had Comm as scum, I see no reason why you wouldn't kill him.

[Thor665]

I did not intend to post that lol

not gonna answer a question I literally just answered @1880

You didn't answer it though.
Your theory was scum no killing in an Open game (because *that* makes any sense)
Paired with the JKer protecting me from Mafia kills because...no reason.
Paired with, ooooh, maybe Umlaut protected someone at some point, somehow - which is based on nothing because you don't even know what protective effect he's claiming unless you're a wolf and had to deal with it.

[Thor665]

You had Comm as scum, I see no reason why you wouldn't kill him.

Good job not reading my cases.
I had him as lock *Wolf* and that's why I never voted him yesterday.

[Something_Smart]

how about both scum shooting an obvious PR?

and well yeah, scum in multiball love to accuse people of being their same scumteam, doesn't mean they actually believe it

[Something_Smart]

I mean, if I'm wolf why are YOU alive?

[Thor665]

So I thought he was Mafia and decided to clear him from that even though the best play for wolves would be to lynch Mafia or the PR yesterday?
Riiiiight.

My plans are brilliant.

[Thor665]

I mean, if I'm wolf why are YOU alive?

Because you know your Mafia case on me was balls and that's why you dropped it so quick when I called you on it and never brought it up again.
I town told like a boss, so you were killing elsewhere.

[Something_Smart]

Idk I saw the end of Paint Mafia Sequel

and my mafia case on you was not my own. it was Titus's.

[Thor665]

And it was still a vastly better case than your Thor is Wolf case.

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

you guys are giving me a hard time deciding who is whom. i guess id rather sheep umlaut (the only confirmed townie as we speak) than decide on my own because i have a confession to make: i literally suck in lylo/mylo

that and the fact that ive been town reading you all for most of the game (well, not thor but i came to a strong tr on him yesterday based on his arguments

for

his own lynch)

i went back to my notes from early game and u realized also umlaut's predecessor was not a strong tr because he had comm's slot as a scum read and both lang buddha's slot and thor's as town reads (the former already flipping town still amazes me but makes that read list look a tad better in retrospect)

with umlaut confirmed though that's no issue now but i still have to decide whether he was 2/3 or 1/3 on those particular slots (im too lazy to go back and find the exact post but feel free to iso rory in d1)

so to me its 2 of vedith/thor/ss are scum but i certainly do understand everyone being skeptical about me one way or the other. in fact id be overly suspicious if someone didnt second guess their read on me under the circumstances.

speaking of me if i was scum i must have directly lead the other scum group to shoot my partner. i either overly accused raya on d1 causing her to get shot at night while i either didnt shoot or targeted vedith in particular, or i kept pushing ari all game long insisting he should get lynched or shot. the 2rd option of course is im town.

i dont get the "thor is more likely ww than mafia" argument bc it appears to me that he is more likely to be mafia if he is scum still.

vedith opting not to kill is such plausible play on his part that got me confused. the question is if he really did that (which makes him mafia, which in turn makes thor more likely town)

that leaves ss as the ww but i still dont see him blatantly defending ari this much if he was his partner. the way im used to is a p neither hard defends nor hard busses their p and especially so when there are only 2 of them.

however this game ends ive enjoyed it and will probably learn a couple of things from it. 2 living players have been playing superbly well (the scum duo) and umlaut managing to survive this long without having to claim was also wonderful. i should learn to do that as a pr in the future.

VOTE: no lynch

[Judge Joseph Dredd]

funny that my eye just quote my sig and i realized whenever i shout that the town loses a member. this game i only said it before the lb lynch. the other game i did while i was calling transcend scum and he was but it ended up with me being lynched instead

[Thor665]

Choosing between S_S and me only really matters for you if you're scum or want to try to help direct shots, otherwise you can sort it tomorrow.
But I'll note that it's blatantly obvious that S_S isn't reading and is likely that he is intentionally pushing logic he knows is false also, and I don't see an argument for either behavior coming from a town slot.

[Umlaut]

I'm ready for the day to end but I won't hammer the no-lynch until everyone else says they are as well. We'll know more tomorrow than we do now.

If we end up in a dilemma tomorrow, I'm going to follow something like S_S's plan. On the off chance I'm dead, the remaining townie should do the same.

[Something_Smart]

I'm a little afraid that both Vedith and Thor will shoot me actually.

And my reasoning for Thor is WW is that nobody else makes sense as WW and it would explain his tryharding.

[Umlaut]

In that universe (where both scum kill the same townie) we're in a 2:1:1 dilemma. Vedith and Thor are the obvious scum suspects, so they agree to stop killing and both vote no-lynch with the understanding that if e.g. Vedith were to kill Thor we would just lynch Vedith the next day, and so the best he can do is draw. This results in a happily-ever-after.

@mod Can you confirm that happily-ever-after is a three way draw?