Mini Normal 1952: Dragon's Dance [OVER - PERFECT SCUM WIN]

Lalendra · Post Post #650 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:12 am

Okay, yeah, my opinion hasn't really changed. Mumble doesn't really engage with LQ much at all, aside from a couple of comments about playstyle and strategy; Mumble is notably absent from LQ's readslist in 64, and LQ doesn't even really address Mumble until much later on. Instead he spends a lot of time disagreeing with my points on Mumble without ever really even mentioning him until after post 300, which is weird to me. I'm still not sold on the idea that this isn't distancing. I will need to really wait until one of them (whoever gets lynched D1) flips before I can really make much of this association.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #651 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:15 am

In post 650, Lalendra wrote:Okay, yeah, my opinion hasn't really changed. Mumble doesn't really engage with LQ much at all, aside from a couple of comments about playstyle and strategy; Mumble is notably absent from LQ's readslist in 64, and LQ doesn't even really address Mumble until much later on. Instead he spends a lot of time disagreeing with my points on Mumble without ever really even mentioning him until after post 300, which is weird to me. I'm still not sold on the idea that this isn't distancing. I will need to really wait until one of them (whoever gets lynched D1) flips before I can really make much of this association.

If I was distancing from Mumble, he would be a much higher wagon than he is right now.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #652 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:16 am

@MOD,

Can we get a VC please?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #653 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:28 am

Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #654 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 10:29 am

In post 653, LicketyQuickety wrote:Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.

Sorry, context. No one is really super on point in this game, meaning you are going to be wrong a lot in this game.

Boonskiies · Post Post #655 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:39 pm

LQ, there’s no way I’m lynching you this game. Was Havo pushing me as scum?

(Remember, I’m a reaction test player.)

Boonskiies · Post Post #656 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:40 pm

In post 654, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 653, LicketyQuickety wrote:Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.
Sorry, context. No one is really super on point in this game, meaning you are going to be wrong a lot in this game.

I’m going to be super on point by tomorrow.

Boonskiies · Post Post #657 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:40 pm

Err and LQ are town for me.

Boonskiies · Post Post #658 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:41 pm

Egg and Tchill are also town for now, albeit aren’t screaming town to me, but I’m leaning there.

Boonskiies · Post Post #659 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:43 pm

In post 654, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 653, LicketyQuickety wrote:Egg makes a good point against me in that it is harder to argue with tsq than Havo. But that's because tsq doesn't change his mind, not because he is so on point.
Sorry, context. No one is really super on point in this game, meaning you are going to be wrong a lot in this game.

Actually, scratch that.

Explain this. Why do you feel town wins yet no one is super on point, implying no ones doing great right now?

Boonskiies · Post Post #660 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:44 pm

Status quo can be town for now. I liked his posts and reasonings for things.

Boonskiies · Post Post #661 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:45 pm

Gonna naked vote here for now.

VOTE: Havo

Boonskiies · Post Post #662 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:48 pm

Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

Boonskiies · Post Post #663 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 2:54 pm

Valuable arguments necessary. No, I like Lalendra as copped.

By this I mean, most PR targets should be on the four people I brought up. I’ll bring up cases for each in a bit, but I’m going to let it stew for a bit.

Tchill13 · Post Post #664 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 4:05 pm

Yeah we get two wagons near a Lynch and all of a sudden naked/crappy votes are going on havo.i wonder why.

Boonskiies · Post Post #665 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:01 pm

In post 664, Tchill13 wrote:Yeah we get two wagons near a Lynch and all of a sudden naked/crappy votes are going on havo.i wonder why.

Because Boon came back, and wrecked these counter mislynch was. That’s why they stopped. They both have scum on them, and it benefits scum to let it stall until townies compromise on one of them.

I ain’t bout ta stand back and let this go. Hell naw.

Tchill13 · Post Post #666 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:18 pm

I'm glad you took credit for it but the fact remains the havo wagon was growing slowly before you got back. Mumbles is scum and should be lynched. I've tried to debate the guy and let him give me a reason as to why I'm wrong and he won't even respond. There's no reason havo is scum and mumbles isn't at this point.

Tchill13 · Post Post #667 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:20 pm

Ah day 1's. Where you get close to lynching scum and town talks themselves out if it and into a mislynch. Gotta love them.

Boonskiies · Post Post #668 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:19 pm

I actually think this is much different than Scumble and more like TownMumble. Hack is likelyscum.

Tchill13 · Post Post #669 (ISO) » Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:55 pm

Ok I don't even care what his meta is at this point. One game isn't enough of a sample size I understand that. I'm not gonna sit here and reward his deafeatist attitude and be talked into lynching someone else. I'm not gonna sit here and let one of my only town reads get lynched either especially when we've got such obvscum caught. Look at mumbles scum reads. It's me and havo. Havo being the guy who was mentioned during momentum of the mumbles wagon and me being the guy that's pushing for his lynch. His scum reads are a load of garbage. He hasn't done anything at all to help make sense of why exactly he's town he's just pointed his finger at whoever is pointing at him and yelled "scum! He's scum!!!" Are you kidding me? This is the Lynch we're gonna let get away?

Lil Uzi Vert · Post Post #670 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:03 am

One thing that has given me a bit of pause on Mumble is he reacted somewhat similar to this in a heated discussion with scum in a game that just ended recently. Boon you remember right?

Havo · Post Post #671 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:48 am

In post 662, Boonskiies wrote:Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

What is your read on Acid?

I could see Schadd being scum, but I don't think Lalendra is.

I haven't played with LUV before, but he's giving me a town feel.

Havo · Post Post #672 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:50 am

In post 670, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:One thing that has given me a bit of pause on Mumble is he reacted somewhat similar to this in a heated discussion with scum in a game that just ended recently. Boon you remember right?

My issue with Mumble is I just got out of a game with him where he coasted to a scum win by not posting much and not being involved much.

I don't like the way he's acted here and could easily see him being scum here.

Havo · Post Post #673 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 5:56 am

In post 657, Boonskiies wrote:Err and LQ are town for me.

In post 658, Boonskiies wrote:Egg and Tchill are also town for now, albeit aren’t screaming town to me, but I’m leaning there.

In post 660, Boonskiies wrote:Status quo can be town for now. I liked his posts and reasonings for things.

In post 662, Boonskiies wrote:Oh, this game’s easy. It’s a mixture of Havo, Lalendra, Schadd, and LUV.

Which one of them is town, though?

I forgot Tacos was in the game, how does that happen?

What's your reads on Acid and Tacos?

Egg · Post Post #674 (ISO) » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:23 am

Mumble, while you are right that some scum will avoid a lynch to avoid suspicion, they are perfectly satisfied with any lynch that isn't on scum. I would be pretty surprised if you are lynched, flip town, and no scum is on your wagon. This is especially true if lickety is scum because it is very important to them to swing the lynch in your direction. You saying "go ahead, lynch me" gives the an excuse to do so.

Boon, you said there's no way you're lynching lickety. I assume that means you have a strong town read. Can you explain why? (I see 659 now, but still want to know where the town read came from). Why isn't taco on your list for power role targets? He's been in my mind as a number one investigative target for most of the game (you're probably number two). Hypothetically speaking of course.

tchill wrote:Yeah we get two wagons near a Lynch and all of a sudden naked/crappy votes are going on havo.i wonder why.

This is making me uneasy as well.