Open 700: Donner Party - ENDGAME

[Transcend]

woof

[sheepsaysmeep]

oh look forgot to bookmark

Hi
VOTE: uc Voyager
Bye

I'd like if you guys could explain these votes/intent to votes on ucv [/quote]


RVS, or Random Voting Stage, is when votes are used with little to no reasoning to stimulate discussion

[sheepsaysmeep]

Huh
Quote error but don’t want to fix it from my phone

[Gödel]

@Almost50 oh so the creator of the thing was on LSD, hmm maybe I should switch to Keychain then since he has such a big mouth, I bet an arm would fit in there

[Assemblerotws]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

[CommKnight]

Vote Count 1.1

[0]

Almost50

[0]

Not_Mafia

[2]

Assemblerotws

Keychain, PMysterious,
[0]

sheepsaysmeep

[2]

Keychain

Transcend, Maki Harukawa,
[2]

Transcend

Elmo TeH AzN, Almost50,
[0]

northsidegal

[1]

PMysterious

Gödel,
[3]

UC Voyager

northsidegal, sheepsaysmeep, Assemblerotws,
[0]

Gödel

[0]

Elmo TeH AzN

[0]

Maki Harukawa

Note Voting:

Not_Mafia, UC Voyager,

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch!

Day Ends:

(expired on 2017-11-07 15:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[Maki Harukawa]

I have no idea what a Jigglypuff is.

VOTE: Godel

[Transcend]

I have no idea what a Jigglypuff is.

VOTE: Godel

Keychain

[Elmo TeH AzN]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

[Transcend]

Hah

[UC Voyager]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

Tell me your joking.

[sheepsaysmeep]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

Tell me your joking.

You’re*

[northsidegal]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

who to lynch vs who to shoot is an interesting thought. why do you think we gain more from the transcend flip? also, could you explain your read on transcend? from what i understand it's based on just having early game reads, which doesn't make a lot of sense to me. i mean, multiple people called others scum in the first 30 or so posts of the game, what made you single out transcend's townread?

[northsidegal]

@Keychain: "The how long does RVS last" bit is fake pretension, and continuing to argue about it is overly so. It gave me the impression Voyager is trying to cover up for something but he miscalculated his move.

However, I was ONLY thinking of the "cannibals" when I said that, which would have given us a 75% hit rate on scum if we lynched him (2 Mafia + 1 SK vs 1 Vig). I now realize it could also be the other 2 TPRs, so the hit rate is 50%, and to add the possibility that it just might be a play style (I don't know him and never played with him before) I'd say LESS than 50%.

So, still the best lynch IMHO but I'm not going to vote him right away. Instead I'll wait for Transcend to engage me, N_M to keep on lurking, or someone else to start something or look more suspicious.

@Transcend: Come on, Doggie. By the power invested in me by the people of .. erm .. the bork bork person, I hereby summon you to appear in my presence, so that I can take a "peek" (or rather a peak) at you, and you may take a "bite" at me too.

does anyone understand what this means? almost, could you explain what you're talking about here? it seems like a complete non-sequitur. by the way, what's your reason behind not voting?

[Keychain]

He's voting Transcend?

I understood it, I'm pretty sure. He said the statement because he thought UCV was likely scum as a likely cannibal, but likelihood has gone down from there as he considered other possibilities for the weird behaviour. Not sure where the non sequitur is here.
The whole "this guy is either scum or a PR" is not a great thing to come out with though.

I have no idea what a Jigglypuff is.

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

I'd vote you for this if I wasn't already. I was pretty happy with the other reasons people gave for voting UCV, but this just sounds like lazy thinking.

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

Tell me your joking.

UCV, are you talking about you being possibly vig shot or Transcend being lynched?

[PMysterious]

However, I was ONLY thinking of the "cannibals" when I said that, which would have given us a 75% hit rate on scum if we lynched him (2 Mafia + 1 SK vs 1 Vig). I now realize it could also be the other 2 TPRs, so the hit rate is 50%, and to add the possibility that it just might be a play style (I don't know him and never played with him before) I'd say LESS than 50%.

does anyone understand what this means? almost, could you explain what you're talking about here? it seems like a complete non-sequitur. by the way, what's your reason behind not voting?

I think he's saying that Voyager is not a Vanilla Townie based on the way he is playing right now. So, by calculating power roles, there is a 50/50 chance based on that alone that Voyager is scum (Goon or Serial Killer). Under mathematics, this would be good reason to kill, if Voyager is not a Vanilla Townie, and there's only a 50% chance of that being the case as well.

I'm convinced that Voyager is either Scum or a Village Idiot. Both of these are reasonable enough to night kill or lynch Voyager, but right now, we need to hear more words out of this guy.

VOTE: Transcend

So, Trans, are you going to give out more than one liners?

[northsidegal]

He's voting Transcend?

I understood it, I'm pretty sure. He said the statement because he thought UCV was likely scum as a likely cannibal, but likelihood has gone down from there as he considered other possibilities for the weird behaviour. Not sure where the non sequitur is here.
The whole "this guy is either scum or a PR" is not a great thing to come out with though.

oh, apologies for the unclear language. in 49, almost said that he thinks ucv is the best lynch but he's going to wait for some other things to happen before he switches his vote. i wanted his rationale on that choice to not move his vote.

you explained it, but i'm still not sure i really understand what that one paragraph is referring to. what's the reason to read ucv as specifically cannibal or town pr rather than just as scum? i guess i would need an explanation on how ucv as a town pr leads to the weird behavior instead of it just being ucv as scum.

[UC Voyager]

He's voting Transcend?

I understood it, I'm pretty sure. He said the statement because he thought UCV was likely scum as a likely cannibal, but likelihood has gone down from there as he considered other possibilities for the weird behaviour. Not sure where the non sequitur is here.
The whole "this guy is either scum or a PR" is not a great thing to come out with though.

I have no idea what a Jigglypuff is.

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

I'd vote you for this if I wasn't already. I was pretty happy with the other reasons people gave for voting UCV, but this just sounds like lazy thinking.

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

Then Leave it to a Vig shot.
Transcend is the lynch today

Tell me your joking.

UCV, are you talking about you being possibly vig shot or Transcend being lynched?

im talking about saying someone should be a vig shot. Vig should shoot based on their own reads. If they shoot the person someone says they should shoot, they shoot a townie.....

[sheepsaysmeep]

Vig should shoot based on their own reads. If they shoot the person someone says they should shoot, they shoot a townie.....

Wot not necessarily lmao

[Transcend]

Maybe

[Transcend]

rvs ends now

VOTE: keychain

[Maki Harukawa]

VOTE: UCV
There's no way you're actually this bad.

VOTE: Assemble
This vote and comment was awful Transcend lets go choo choo.

[Almost50]

@northsidegirl: I'm confused as to what exactly you want me to explain, so I'll try to state my stance and objective and hopefully you'll get where I'm coming from.

Basically, I want to hunt down the cannibals. You wonder why "cannibals" and not "just scum", which is confusing to me as

all scum are cannibals in this game

, which means eliminating all cannibals = eliminating all scum.

However, there's also one town-aligned cannibal in the setup, so we have a total of 3 scums, all cannibals out of a total of 4 cannibals. It might have been survivalist for me to think it was an acceptable risk (nobody wants to die and leave the game and it applies to me too), but it also had to do with the unannounced flips for the cannibal kills. In my head it was: worst case we lynch the vig, so 2 NKs with unknown flips rather than 3, AND we might even know if the Mafia got the SK the next night if we only have one NK then.

While I was typing my thoughts it occurred to me that I had been too focused on the cannibals that I totally forgot there were 2 other PRs who are NOT cannibals so that's why I said what I said. I also do not have a crystal ball so I could still be wrong so added that factor at the end.

With this and with me trying to determine the alignment of others, like Transcend (one of the very few I have previous experience with) I don't see why I should rush a lynch on someone I had just said I suspect but NOT SURE is scum. I'll wait for Transcend to start playing the game so that I have a better chance of guessing his true colours, and maybe a few others too. (I won't be sharing a read list on D1, but I already have marked down 2 players as most likely town and 3 as more suspicious than the others).

Does it make any more sense now?

[Maki Harukawa]

If people die do they just flip there name or can they keep talking until the person who killed them flipped I'm a bit confused on that end

[CommKnight]

If people die do they just flip there name or can they keep talking until the person who killed them flipped I'm a bit confused on that end

When someone is lynched, they flip normally. When someone is eaten by a Cannibal, their role is hidden until the cannibal is lynched. But they are 100% dead in the larder.