Mini Normal 1983: Winter Wonderland [Endgame!]

[Sephiroth]

Oh boy that's a lot of pages

i know right?

[sheepsaysmeep]

yo

@ucv

can you like
notice this

[northsidegal]

VC 1.04

votes

Internecine

(1): UC Voyager

UC Voyager

(1): Sephiroth

Sephiroth

(1): mozamis

Flubbernugget

(4): sheepsaysmeep, Sergtacos, Not_Mafia, Internecine

BuJaber

(1): Hopkirk

Hopkirk

(1): Katyusha

Not_Mafia

(1): humaneatingmonkey

humaneatingmonkey

(1): Flubbernugget

Not Voting

(2): Schism, BuJaber

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch

The day 1 deadline is in

: (expired on 2018-01-19 12:49:59)

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[Sergtacos]

I think we should mass claim

[sheepsaysmeep]

no
next

[Not_Mafia]

no
next

[Internecine]

Can I claim illiteracy so I can stop reading

[sheepsaysmeep]

no
next

[Internecine]

6 pages deep already.. 6 pages.. real content? barely any.. for the record I hate stupid shit like "are you town" "yes" "k ty, what about me?" "town" "ok" and pagetop comments. Do these really need to be single and separate posts? I especially hate them because from my limited experience on this site they're usually coming from town, which is annoying coz I scumread that shit fast. Too much fluff.

Why Flubber over Sephiroth

why do you care

I agree with sheep here, why does Internecine care? Sheep did say he's down to lynch either. Perhaps Flub is scum and Seph isn't and thats why Internecine voted Seph and is asking sheep why he's voting flub instead of seph?

First off, I don't think Seph could be scum because of the possibility. He was scum in our last game so i don't think he could hit scum again. Yeah, I want Flub lynched even more now.

VOTE: Flub

I am reading overeagerness to jump to conclusions that imo can easily be wrong. Add to that the weird opening and the vote on UCV which altogether is making me scumread serg.

So consolidated town/p.o.e list:

Town: moz, kat, flubber,kat, sheep,

3 scum in: Seph, Inter, Serg,Hopkirk, UC, Scishm, Bjaber, Human

strongly suggest we stick to those 8, almost 50 pr cent chance already of hittng scum.

well, i cant really help that. altho my maths is bad, the calc tells me its 37.5 per cent.
you're an exp. alt, you know that those 5 guys i listed are so likely to be town. and also that most of the scum team prob havent posted yet.

If this is coming from town it is very misguided. How in the world do you conftown 5 people this early on? Where's your sense of healthy doubt? This forces closed-mindedness. Not only that but then you also encourage sheepy to go with your reads or back them up. This is so scummy that the only defense I have for it is it might be too scummy for scum. Plus I reject the notion that active = posting a lot everyday. People have lives, you can lurk and post a lot of junk and you can be active by posting only once or twice a day/every 2 days. It's all in the attitude, content, and effort. Not to mention the fact that the best scum are those that are actively driving the discussion to suit their nefarious needs. Yes of course not all, and lurking is still typically a scumtell but you definitely need to be careful about about labeling people without much thought.

VOTE: Moz

If this is a reaction test well here's my reaction, fix my perception of you.

VOTE: Flubb

Not personal, like Serg's. This is game-related.

You say it's game related but don't explain. How does that make it better than a personal reason?

I can see 1 scum being among flubber/seph. I'm getting an early town vibe from sheep. And I agree that UCV's thing about RVS is not AI. Intern actually looking up players' profiles before the game starts struck me as interesting. It's definitely more pre-game effort than I have ever given and ever will probably. I just can't decide if that makes him more likely to be scum or town.
The rest I don't really have anything to say about.

[Internecine]

Actually 0 clue how that happened since I just wanted to quote the last sentence but whatever, I saw your profile from the sign-up thread

[BuJaber]

@seph - if you're town, flubb is scum. Kind of looking that way actually. If you're both town I'd have to start from scratch. I kind of doubt 2 uninformed townies could be so in sync. If that is the case then I agree with flubb that intern would look shady (plus serg, but again probably only 1 scum between them.. that's a lot of associatives :/)

Does town serg say crazy things just for fun or something? I'm scumreading every post of his. I just have this eerie feeling he wants people scumreading him. My first game with him.

Moz is still scum in my book. Unvote had nothing to do with my read. He might become a good lynch if more people talk about him and he responds. When there are multiple scumreads I favor lynching one that should give more insight than just a flip.

Scumreading HEM seems odd. I admit his entrance was meh. But hopkirk wasn't accurately portraying HEMs posts .. that part is correct. So it feels like town pushing for a policy lynch on hop for lying. Also HEMs interactions and haphazard trains of thought scream townie trying to make sense of things. Overly confident or clear-minded players who rarely change their process are either bad at playing town or scum. Which is why I scumread moz in the first place. I read unwilllingness to change the game plan he set for himself.

I'm sensing eagerness to connect with people from sheep. I don't know if that is AI by itself.

Forming a read on UCV already is impossible from uninformed perspective imo. Doesn't necessary mean those that have are scum it just means their read has no basis which means it's pretty useless at the moment.

Pedit- I figured that was probably the case later. I didn't it was relevant to mention it since I didn't think it was AI in the first place

[BuJaber]

Well I did think it was AI but couldn't make a conclusion as to which.

[Internecine]

@BuJaber

Can you elaborate on your Flubber read

I think one scum is pretty likely in {Serg/UC/Schism} btw

[Internecine]

1. I'm not so sure flubb is scum here. Which from my perspective and previously mentioned poe makes seph scum. I want to vote there, but feel like it might be too late.

@seph - if you're town, flubb is scum. Kind of looking that way actually. If you're both town I'd have to start from scratch. I kind of doubt 2 uninformed townies could be so in sync. If that is the case then I agree with flubb that intern would look shady (plus serg, but again probably only 1 scum between them.. that's a lot of associatives :/)

Like what changed

[BuJaber]

Not much of a read honestly but I didn't like how flubb and seph just came in and joined a bandwagon. I thought that was scummy but that odds are no two scum partners would do that. Until recently seph's posts seemed scummy so I leaned scum for him more than flubb which made me tr flubb. Moreover the wagon seemed unnnatural and driven by intent to form a wagon and propel out of RVS. I figured scum were likely to avoid such a wagon as it would probably dissolve by itself. That didn't seem to happen though. Although the fact that scummy serg was on the wagon made me question this conclusion because maybe it isn't being driven entirely by town, which again makes flubb look innocent. If seph is town which his latest posts hint at I may have to face the fact that both flubb and seph are indeed two townies that are on the same wavelength right from the start.

What changed is seph started posting.

[Internecine]

Not much of a read honestly but I didn't like how flubb and seph just came in and joined a bandwagon. I thought that was scummy but that odds are no two scum partners would do that.

Until recently seph's posts seemed scummy so I leaned scum for him more than flubb which made me tr flubb

. Moreover the wagon seemed unnnatural and driven by intent to form a wagon and propel out of RVS. I figured scum were likely to avoid such a wagon as it would probably dissolve by itself. That didn't seem to happen though. Although the fact that scummy serg was on the wagon made me question this conclusion because maybe it isn't being driven entirely by town, which again makes flubb look innocent. If seph is town which his latest posts hint at I may have to face the fact that both flubb and seph are indeed two townies that are on the same wavelength right from the start.

What changed is seph started posting.

stating intent. At minimum I'm waiting for the continuation of 182, seph to post, moz to post, and UCV to post.

?

I can't tell if I just have a small brain but I don't really understand this.

VOTE: BuJaber

[sheepsaysmeep]

I didn't like how flubb and seph just came in and joined a bandwagon. I thought that was scummy but that odds are no two scum partners would do that.

1) these days this doesnt actually mean scum in those two
2) associations like this dont work, there isnt any actual interaction between the two of them in this case

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think one scum is pretty likely in {Serg/UC/Schism} btw

can we not do this type of grouping pls it's annoying

[UC Voyager]

I think one scum is pretty likely in {Serg/UC/Schism} btw

can we not do this type of grouping pls it's annoying

what do you have against POE

[sheepsaysmeep]

eagerness to connect with people from sheep

im friendly :3
does this type of stuff need to be noted lol

also inter spotting bu's inconsistency is a nice catch
bu's shifting to a scumlean
i can like actually organize my thoughts tmrw when i shouldnt be sleeping

[sheepsaysmeep]

I think one scum is pretty likely in {Serg/UC/Schism} btw

can we not do this type of grouping pls it's annoying

what do you have against POE

it's not even poe he's just taking a group of ppl
why the hell is schism there

also ucv can you like
do the shit you need to do

[sheepsaysmeep]

in particular help me read you

[sheepsaysmeep]

shit
and with that he was gone with the wind
i mean that popin is incredibly wolfy

[sheepsaysmeep]

he doesnt actually try to do anything or see what's going on or that type of bullshit

other than hop for a few moments the lack of counterwagons is what's making me confused rn

also fuck the readthrough ;-;

[sheepsaysmeep]

dont h8 me 4 this