Newbie 1846 - Game Over

[3 Masons in a Trenchcoat]

EBWOP: Move Cabd from neutral to scumlean. Seems like a scummy move to call out newbie behavior as scummy behavior.

[Huntress]

Vote Count 1.2

Cabd (3) - Lucky2u, TheGoldenParadox, Not_Mafia
Not_Mafia (2) - 3 Masons in a Trenchcoat, Leeoon
3 Masons in a Trenchcoat (1) - UC Voyager
TheGoldenParadox (1) - MagikHorse
Leeoon (1) - Myloninja13
Myloninja13 (1) - Cabd

Not voting (0) -


With nine players alive, it takes five votes to lynch.

Deadline for Day One is Friday, 26th January, 11.00 pm GMT, (in (expired on 2018-01-26 23:00:00)).

[MagikHorse]

Makes sense to me Leeoon. Better to poke at someone you know may react and provide information than to vote someone you don't really know. That's why I voted for Golden, as I saw how poorly they reacted when they replaced into Newbie 1840 as scum and was wondering what kind of reaction I'd get from them.

In regards to 49, that's just me as a person, as I've discovered from my first game (which was unfortunately lost in a forums crash). Not really much I can say or do about that.

Thanks for helping with the post links though. That'll be immensely helpful.

[UC Voyager]

do you think that your gimmick will have an effect on the game?

Probably not. When I'm talking seriously, I don't post that way. It kind of slipped out there as an early-game fluffpost since things are relaxed and the game hasn't had time to heat up very much yet. It's not going to happen whatsoever once the pressure begins to build.

I have a slight townread on Cabd. They're the only one so far to actually peg someone on a mildly scummy action, and I agree with their read. Mylon made a poor decision with their purely random vote, especially in announcing it as such. Maybe they're telling the truth about RVS votes being random where they came from, but it's definitely not a good idea. Your vote is your early-game pressure, and pressuring someone at random isn't very effective. I have a mild suspicion on Leeoon for the same thing, calling his vote "arbitrary" as if he really didn't care about where it went or put any reasoning behind it. The RVS stage isn't just to throw out votes willy-nilly, it's there to see who reacts to them in what ways.

So, I ask of Leeoon, why did you specifically choose Not_Mafia for your vote?

NM is a very reactionary player. I know his reaction will shed some light on his alignment, while I don't know anybody else well enough to be sure of that.

I have played a lot more games with NM. I think their play is more unpredictable and predictable at the same time. I would not say they are always reactionary

Sorry for lurking. Schoolwork built up, I got a bit busy, and I wasn't able to get on and VLA.

As for reads, here's my list:

Town: UC Voyager, for being one to make sure the game progresses. Could be a scum trying to rush to a ML, but in my experience the people who are quick to play but not quick to push a lynch are town.

Townlean: Myloninja13. Not_Mafia. I feel like Mylon's mistakes are genuine, and intentions are pure. Not_Mafia I'm reading as town because of tone and demeanor, but this read could change.

Null: Leeoon, Cabd, TheGoldenParadox, and Lucky2u all too inactive.

Scumlean: Magikhorse. Seems a bit too friendly, like a scum trying to appear unsuspicious. Could be a moment of Look At Me, I'm So Town, but it also could just be newbie behavior. Not_Mafia could fit here as well for the same reasons, but instincts are saying that Not_Mafia is town.

And by the way, Horse, there's a button at the top of the reply box if you're not using quick reply. It says post, and if you click it then you can type the number between the brackets. For example,

Code: Select all

[post]45[/post]

would become 45.

That would be pocketing referring to magik, but I think they aren't really giving off the pocket feeling.

[MagikHorse]

Just for a more exact definition, what is pocketing? I've looked around on the wiki, but I can't find a definition anywhere.

[Not_Mafia]

I think it's buddying

[Lucky2u]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

[MagikHorse]

Honestly, not really seeing it if buddying is what they're going for, unless they're referring specifically to 16. That's about all I see that might qualify, as everything else after my first post was either a reaction to someone else or a question of my own.

[UC Voyager]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

A) acheivment points don't matter

B) it was an RVS vote

C) you want to do townie things. . .

UNVOTE: idk if im voting for someone or not as it is

[UC Voyager]

Honestly, not really seeing it if buddying is what they're going for, unless they're referring specifically to 16. That's about all I see that might qualify, as everything else after my first post was either a reaction to someone else or a question of my own.

I could see where they are coming from saying your buddying. I disagree with them, but you are being slightly overfreindly.

[UC Voyager]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

im obviously a lucky2U's double vote. town aligned.

[UC Voyager]

guys. here is a challenge! try to raise your post count while making useful posts. ok. this game is being slow af and we are not going to find scum like that

[TheGoldenParadox]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

[TheGoldenParadox]

Always wanted to play with you.

Consider my ears perked; do tell.

The moderator of my first game was fferyllt, and while randomly searching the website I found a game with her and you in it where you played beautifully. I'll try to find it later.

[Lucky2u]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if we're bringing meta into the argument you'll find I get lynched day 1 as town and scum for this exact type of posting. NM is still probably town. Your argument is very similar to the "he's so good as scum so let's Lynch them early" type non sense I would never agree to.

[Cabd]

Trip over. Headed home to stable interwebs and ability to play.

[TheGoldenParadox]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if we're bringing meta into the argument you'll find I get lynched day 1 as town and scum for this exact type of posting. NM is still probably town. Your argument is very similar to the "he's so good as scum so let's Lynch them early" type non sense I would never agree to.

Oh no no no. My argument is that he's a godforsaken troll who's incredibly hard to sort in LyLo, so let's pressure him, because that's the only way we can sort him.

[3 Masons in a Trenchcoat]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if we're bringing meta into the argument you'll find I get lynched day 1 as town and scum for this exact type of posting. NM is still probably town. Your argument is very similar to the "he's so good as scum so let's Lynch them early" type non sense I would never agree to.

Oh no no no. My argument is that he's a godforsaken troll who's incredibly hard to sort in LyLo, so let's pressure him, because that's the only way we can sort him.

I agree to putting the pressure on NM. So far, most of his posts have been jokes, and it's hard to get a read on jokes whether NM is town or scum. Can we get someone to put him in L-1?

[MagikHorse]

Since my pressure vote on Golden isn't really doing anything and Not_Mafia hasn't contributed or explained much of anything (including their suspicions or their vote, although the vote at least matches their suspicions), I'll throw my vote that way.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

This is L-1 folks, which means he's one vote away from a hammer. If you intend on hammering, state your intent to hammer first and give him some time to explain his position, claim, and stuff.

Also, just gonna say it now, it's probably way too early to actually hammer. Think of all the time we'd be losing when the day ends!

[UC Voyager]

Whoa now. Het your votes of NM for gods sake

Here is some advice
You don't put people at l-1 on page three after RVS ends
Not even for pressure.

[UC Voyager]

Since my pressure vote on Golden isn't really doing anything and Not_Mafia hasn't contributed or explained much of anything (including their suspicions or their vote, although the vote at least matches their suspicions), I'll throw my vote that way.

VOTE: Not_Mafia

This is L-1 folks, which means he's one vote away from a hammer. If you intend on hammering, state your intent to hammer first and give him some time to explain his position, claim, and stuff.

Also, just gonna say it now, it's probably way too early to actually hammer. Think of all the time we'd be losing when the day ends!

Someone didn't read my IC post

[UC Voyager]

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if we're bringing meta into the argument you'll find I get lynched day 1 as town and scum for this exact type of posting. NM is still probably town. Your argument is very similar to the "he's so good as scum so let's Lynch them early" type non sense I would never agree to.

Oh no no no. My argument is that he's a godforsaken troll who's incredibly hard to sort in LyLo, so let's pressure him, because that's the only way we can sort him.

No it isn't. I can all ready tell you he is my strongest TR.

Hi guys! I'm still here!

NM is probably town. I don't know how to read UCV as an IC. Cabd! Why should I unvote you? I still need to get my achievment points for getting you lynched.

Eew..
This is how a scum NM wins: by being so hard to read that everyone reads him as town early-game, then "figures it out" that he's scum.. all without looking at meta.
Please get this guy to L-1 so we can pressure him and read him.
The second part of that post is blecch. "Achievement points for getting [Cabd] lynched?" More like scum trying to look like their posting somewhat helpful somewhat jokey content. Voting Not_Maf, but slightly FoSing Lucky2u for the sole reason that Lucky is notorious for getting lynch d1 because of this and sometimes, meta doesn't lie.
VOTE: Not_Mafia

Well if we're bringing meta into the argument you'll find I get lynched day 1 as town and scum for this exact type of posting. NM is still probably town. Your argument is very similar to the "he's so good as scum so let's Lynch them early" type non sense I would never agree to.

Oh no no no. My argument is that he's a godforsaken troll who's incredibly hard to sort in LyLo, so let's pressure him, because that's the only way we can sort him.

I agree to putting the pressure on NM. So far, most of his posts have been jokes, and it's hard to get a read on jokes whether NM is town or scum. Can we get someone to put him in L-1?

Uh what in the fuck. Thank you scum for outing yourself on page three

VOTE: masons
Also tgp is probably also scum because it was his idea

[MagikHorse]

Not entirely sure how Masons has "outed" himself here. Not_Mafia really has provided next to nothing outside of jokes and hasn't explained a single read they've made. I do understand their suspicions, as we have next to no content or reasoning from NM, which is partially why I'm wondering exactly why UCV is saying NM so townie unless the reason is entirely meta-based or something.

That being said, I will retract my vote on NM before someone does something stupid, like me putting him at L-1 was to begin with. I should probably put that IC post in another tab for quick reference so I don't screw up like that again.

UNVOTE:

[MagikHorse]

EBWODP: I forgot that Masons specifically called for him to be put to L-1, and I took that bait hard. that reasoning is understandable to me now.

[MagikHorse]

And I guess while I'm at it, I might as well put my vote where my mouth is. Man, I'm scatterbrained today.

VOTE: 3 Masons in a Trenchcoat