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Posted: Thu Feb 15, 2018 11:36 pm
by profii
In post 1044, Lalendra wrote:5 players, 2 scum and 3 town; town gets lynched and another gets NK'ed, isn't that end of game, town loses?

Might as well claim since everyone seems to suspect me. I'm VT. That's why earlier I said I am not the worst lynch, but certainly not the best. (i.e. not a PR, but also not scum.)
Just reading back on my Lal analysis - if Lal can just find this on my behalf because I can't (the bit where you say you are not the worst lynch)

I think given my uncertainty on Acryon and Eth0s, the low risk lynch is Lovebird as this is more certain scum

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:08 am
by Lalendra
In post 1191, eth0s wrote:
In post 1189, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1188, eth0s wrote:Is profii saying that self-voting and saying that lynching him wouldn't be the worst thing ever is a good VT breadcrumb (if such a thing even exists)?

Nah... that's not a VT breadcrumb. That's more scumvidence.

Bigger, more substantial post still on the way. Got to prepare for my class in a few hours. I will hopefully have a big post out here within 12 hours or so.
I disagree because I did the exact same thing.
You self voted?
VT breadcrumb.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:14 am
by Lalendra
Profii you're 100% right, I got my games mixed up. I didn't say that here. Sorry.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 3:45 am
by profii
That's a shame, I was hoping for some town points for you.

Basically I'm at the point where Lovesick needs to prove she is town otherwise, she is my preference.

If everyone can convince me that there is absolutely no SK in this game, I would also review, but I reckon there will be.

The other part of my theory is that eth0s scum killed rb because scum wanted to. Acryon said Thor was a good player, so Acryon SK'd Thor to remove a strong player after me pushing him wasn't going anywhere.


this is tough.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:27 am
by Lalendra
Can you explain more about why you think there's an SK? I'm not seeing it but I'm not as well-versed in setup spec as some players on this site.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:54 am
by profii
I’m not that good on how the setups go on this site either. There is just something weird about eth0s claim - particularly that I reminded him about a bread crumb that he forgot & he set him self up for claiming another NK tonight by saying 2 shot. In a game I just played with him, he was scum and ignored my argument that I could have used my JK power to game solve - he has also not engaged the point that he said he would kill someone tonight which takes the game out of towns hands and solely into his. This is also suspect. Surely, we should democratically leash the 2 shot vig power - I think it’s a slip that eth0s hasn’t entered into this topic, he could have humoured me and shot anyway

So, if a SK is in the game, their first kill was the day before MyLo, be that Eth0s or Acryon, they picked a good time to claim vig and create a town block, seeing as no other double kills have happened, they can safely assume there isn’t a real big and make that claim. I am guessing we wouldn’t have a SK and a vig in a setup.

There is also the Acryon shutdown on game setup discussion way early on, which makes me think all the first paragraph matches a case where Eth0s has another kill because he is scum and Acryon is keeping quiet on the vig claim because if he contests it, the SK win con becomes at huge risk because we would end up lynching Eth0s or Acryon and if you actually are scum, maybe Acryon can get the other scum for his win con over night


My gut is just telling me that there is something not right about the vig claim and this fits best

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:25 am
by eth0s
In post 1201, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1191, eth0s wrote:
In post 1189, Lalendra wrote:
In post 1188, eth0s wrote:Is profii saying that self-voting and saying that lynching him wouldn't be the worst thing ever is a good VT breadcrumb (if such a thing even exists)?

Nah... that's not a VT breadcrumb. That's more scumvidence.

Bigger, more substantial post still on the way. Got to prepare for my class in a few hours. I will hopefully have a big post out here within 12 hours or so.
I disagree because I did the exact same thing.
You self voted?
VT breadcrumb.
So you disagree with what I said but only read half of it? :eek:

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 9:27 am
by eth0s
VOTE: lalendra
I'm gonna shoot profii tonight

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 10:05 am
by profii
Oh eth0s eth0s eth0s :)

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:05 am
by Lalendra
gg scum

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:07 am
by Lalendra
If I'm not hammered within the next few hours, we'll know eth0s is scum, because if he was town, the two scum would jump on my wagon and lynch me because it would be game over. Even if he's SK, the two scum would still do the same. Either way, unless I'm dead in a few hours, he's not town.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:53 am
by eth0s
You know that Lovebird is going to take her time (as they should, still catching up after all). And you know that Acryon is V/LA. So you are trying to mislead us here but we are too smart. It's clearly you and profii.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:54 am
by eth0s
Profii and Lalendra have been waiting for me to vote this whole time so they could finally try to use paranoia to their advantage. Soooo fucking predictable :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:56 am
by eth0s
In post 1208, profii wrote:Oh eth0s eth0s eth0s :)
This post is also hilarious coming from the guy who wanted us to lynch lalendra before archwing was finished replacing kop. LMAO

gg yall. Lalendra knows that they are backed into the corner, its totally obvious now that I have declared that I'm shooting profii tonight.

Thanks for making it so blatant.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:57 am
by Lovebird
I'm here. Reading again, also not quickvoting.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:58 am
by Lovebird
Actually, I think I've read enough. Confident in this flipping scum.

VOTE: Lalendra

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:58 am
by eth0s
If acryon is town and doesn't make it back to vote before dayphase ends I am blacklisting him. That's the only way we can really lose at this point, I think. As long as lovebird votes Lale with me, anyway.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:58 am
by acryon
VOTE: Lalendra

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:59 am
by eth0s
oh, so it was lovebird acryon?
rip

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:59 am
by Lovebird
Looks like he made it back.

Maybe profil was right about the SK.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 11:59 am
by Lovebird
I'm not scum.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:01 pm
by eth0s
Well acryon almost certainly isn't town with that fakeout V/LA and clearly checking up on thread waiting to vote.

We either just lost or I guess there could be sk but I'm guessing it's the former

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:02 pm
by eth0s
if lale flips green and the game isn't over then a town win is still impossible, no?

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:03 pm
by Lovebird
Still think Lalendra flips scum, shoot acryon tonight.

Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:03 pm
by acryon
Not a fake V/LA. I only really play during downtime at work during the week, but I check in periodically to read on the weekends but rarely post so I always make sure to be on V/LA so I don't get booted. Wasn't my intent to deceive in that way.