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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:49 pm

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Switching votes a lot is not AI.
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:52 pm

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But they all felt scapegoat-y

And she vote parked oma the entire day with very little conviction and that was a counter to a scum Lynch.
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:57 pm

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switching votes a lot can be alignment indicative it means you don't want to be held responsible for your vote.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:58 pm

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Thank you mason buddy
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 2:59 pm

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Page 14:

Transcend is either being dumb or is scum. Not sure which yet. Did he claim mason earlier?

fro99er is prob town

Mulch pings me. Not quite sure why. It might have something to do with the kokichi entrance. I'm not really sure.

PEDIT: @TwoInAMillion: that really depends on the context. It's true Lovebird doesn't have a ton of content between her votes, but that doesn't mean her votes are nonsensical. Her frustration with being wagoned is obvtown.
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:01 pm

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Mulch is dead
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:01 pm

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In post 2304, Beefster wrote:Page 14:

Transcend is either being dumb or is scum. Not sure which yet. Did he claim mason earlier?

fro99er is prob town

Mulch pings me. Not quite sure why. It might have something to do with the kokichi entrance. I'm not really sure.

PEDIT: @TwoInAMillion: that really depends on the context. It's true Lovebird doesn't have a ton of content between her votes, but that doesn't mean her votes are nonsensical. Her frustration with being wagoned is obvtown.
Frustration at being wagoned is less NAI than vote switching.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:05 pm

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Fissure/Mulch is dead. Didn't realize that. Moving on.
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:08 pm

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I think you have to be pressured in a certain way with your votes for it to be scum-indicative to switch. That wasn't the case for Lovebird as far as I could tell. When people back out of votes because other players don't like it, that is often a bad sign.
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:12 pm

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Page 20: Kokichi Oma looks self conscious
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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:20 pm

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In post 608, texcat wrote:
In post 595, Transcend wrote:
In post 589, Lil Uzi Vert wrote:2319 wagon is bad.
what intel do you have to declare this
It seems obvious to me that scum first tried to put Brass forward as the alternative to Kokichi and then when that didn't really take off they're trying 2319. When you've got a scum in the noose, it's lynchbait that get proposed as alternatives.

I think Kokichi and Mulch are lovers. Kokichi is scum and is desperately trying to get confirmed as town. He decides to claim mason and hope that Mulch will go along with it. Honest town Mulch does not, but he does not want to die with his lover so soon. (Or alternatively, a not so honest town Mulch realizes that a counterclaim would be bad for town, and does not go along with the fake claim.)
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In post 613, Transcend wrote:is lover a normal role

even if it is i think it's a bullshit theory.
I don't see it listed under normal approved roles, but it's not listed either under roles that can't be in normals.
Why do you think Mulch is defending Kokichi?
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:31 pm

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Page 33: I'd vote Jodaxq or Kokichi at this point.

1/3 the way there!
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 3:31 pm

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Oh yeah. and texcat. there are a lot of players.
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:00 pm

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In post 1464, Transcend wrote:
Claim: Even Night Gunsmith


Crumbs are all over the place. I also dropped a commuter crumb to stay alive. I thought light was town initially because he's the one who would give me a false negative and he was the opposite night of me. Then Ranmaru made his shot and that read sorta went away because idk why that my role would get two false negatives. So I think Light's scum after all.

Regardless of that, I checked someone I thought was scum and others thought was town to ultimately sort the slot. It came up guilty. I think he knew it was him since his posting dramatically deteriorated once I made my soft announcement. Anyways.

Gamma Emerald has a gun.


I invite LaLight to check me tonight.

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

RQS gets turbo policied from me in the future.
I don't believe this claim for a second. I see no sign of said crumbs. Unless this is a obvfake claim...

Why was he not NK'd?

Unless he claimed mason later on and nobody cc'd, this looks like a straight-up bus to me.
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:17 pm

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Transcend fakeclaims more than he truthclaims.
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:17 pm

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Plus he is my mason.
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:19 pm

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In post 2291, Kokichi Oma wrote:It is. Also, I don't even care who we lynch anymore. This game is going so slow.
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:21 pm

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In post 2302, TwoInAMillion wrote:switching votes a lot can be alignment indicative it means you don't want to be held responsible for your vote.
switching votes is alignment indicative for me in that it shows i'm town

my votes are static af as scum
"I officially announce Fro99er the king of guilties because this is the second time he has guiltied a slot I was really unsure about.
Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:22 pm

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There are 2 masonries? Odd. I mean, I've been in a game with a masonry and a neighborhood, but 2 masonries seems a bit much.
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:24 pm

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1 masonry - 3 masons

the dead mason plus 2iam plus transcend
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Heil King Froggo.
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:26 pm

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I read it as texcat and fro99er, but that was off a soft claim. I take it I haven't gotten to the hard claim. I'm on page 74 right now.
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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:27 pm

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This is what confused me, BTW:
In post 1829, Jodaxq wrote:VOTE: Lovebird

I'm sheeping the masons
Jodaxq has put basically no effort into this game up to this point. Her votes look pretty opportunistic. She doesn't seem to be trying to move the game forward.
VOTE: Jodaxq

TBF, I have been skimming.
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:29 pm

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In post 2320, Beefster wrote:I read it as texcat and fro99er, but that was off a soft claim. I take it I haven't gotten to the hard claim. I'm on page 74 right now.
nah, i think tex could be scum

i was mason with tex in a previous game.
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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:30 pm

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Ah. I thought that might have been the case and I just read wrong.
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Fri Mar 02, 2018 4:31 pm

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I'd vote tex for sure.
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