Mini Normal 1996: Floral Mafia [Endgame!]

[Tchill13]

Hm maybe so actually. Tchill why were you inconsistent with your treatment of mumble? You voted him and then said there was no reason to SR him. I understand you wanted to counterwagon but was there anything that made you want to vote them over say, Katherine or implosion?

had i layed down a meaningful vote it would have been between Mumble or katherine. I voted just to wagon. I haven't seen anything "scummy" from implosion yet.

I honestly voted mumble just because i was told to.

[Tchill13]

Wow.... That's a classic Katherine move right there.

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

Woman. Sorry lol.

VOTE: tchill

this has got to die. i rolled village btw glgl me

Well that's a bit aggressive.

this response by TChill kinda feels like he's confused but doesn't want to be like "whymefryme"

wouldn't you be a bit confused if someone was determined you were scum after 4 minimal posts? it also could have been sarcasm so i was "testing the waters" to see if it was a serious statement or not.

[Killthestory]

so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?

[Tchill13]

I hard TR KTS and that's that.

Why?

Tell me exactly why scum start such a thing day 1? There's no reason for it. The most efficient way for scum to play that helps them in the long run is minimal stances day 1.

This is obviously BS, although I feel like he genuinely believes this.

Maybe so.

He's got a hard TR from me at the moment. That's really not anything to worry about seeing how it's not lylo atm.

I don't like how settled Tchill is on this read - Kill even admitted he plays like that as either alignment, but Tchill maintains his hard townread on these shaky grounds.

I'd say hard-townreading someone based on faulty reasoning is a cause for concern no matter how far into the game we are.

i see aggressive, narrow minded pushes more so from town than scum. Idc that he went out of his way to state that he played like that. He was either trying to accomplish the fact that i realize he could still be scum or that he's trying to be transparent. His play style seems like he's a very confident. If he's such a confident player i believe he's actually trying to let me know he's that good as scum instead of trying to seem transparent for a TR.

[Tchill13]

so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?

i'm not going to because i wouldn't use meta to read me. I'm always trying to evolve my play for the better (i'm human and mess up though).

[MariaR]

so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74256
I don't like meta but if it suits you bud

[Tchill13]

ah. That's my absolute best town game.

[MariaR]

I still get ptsd from that game

[Tchill13]

This is such a blatantly scummy thing to say

Why is it scummy? I’m inclined to believe it except I’ll go one further and say even a wagon on me would be fine. Wagons = pressure which = discussion which = game solving.

hey this guy gets it.

[Tchill13]

so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=74256
I don't like meta but if it suits you bud

What's bad is i think its an accurate depiction of where im at as a player. I was hoping i'd never see it again though

[Tchill13]

I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.

VOTE: mumble

VOTE: Tchill

i'm not allowed to vote someone before post 100 without a serious case? I admitted i'm voting someone without a serious reason which is no different than voting someone in RVS. Why is it only scummy because i admitted it?

[Tchill13]

I don't think there's enough reason to scum read mumble. I do appreciate activity but I feel like you're definitely trying to take control of the game and I also don't like how you pointed out you could be aggressive as scum also.

I don't get your mindset here - you hard townread Kill because scum wouldn't be aggressive early D1, but then dislike Kill admitting he's aggressive as either alignment?

Backwards reasoning.

What about it? Should he be drawing the same conclusion as you..?

It's very beg-the-question-y, as though it would be reasonable to nail someone as scum off of a single point. It looks like scum hedging on either a scumbuddy or on a townie and not really sure if they want to risk joining the possibly-developing wagon.

Early day one I'm down for any wagon that's not mine.

This is such a blatantly scummy thing to say I'm almost thinking it's Town.

This post is objectively false.
It's not backwards reasoning because doing something and

saying

something are 2 dif things. Acting one way is something admitting to it is something else and I think that's the case and point here.

Point 2:
How is that scummy? It's just blunt and true. Sure it's not the most optimal town play but that doesn't mean it's scummy.
Like day 1 for me I fully expect to be suspected maybe even lynched so I might just "roll with the flow"
same type of reasoning.

maria's looking pretty good too.

[Tchill13]

Gamma's prob town

I was hoping you would get scum vibes from gamma. I can't tell if he's town making an honest push or scum pushing LHF.

[Tchill13]

idk how to take Havos change if he said it was before the game that would've made it now saying he did it while he was posting could mean self conscious scum but the tone so far feels like town who genuinely didn't want to fuck something up.
Whew sr and a tr so far Maria you are on fire
Pedit: I don't think you should give tips regardless and let us see the reaction

This feels like fake sorting - reading too much into something NAI while drawing a vague conclusion -

"could be scum, could be town"

.

"reading too much into something NAI." Luca is coming off as try hard town looking in the wrong places.

[Tchill13]

I'm townread ... Tchill for particular reasons.

You're wrong

Anyone notice the aggressive push on me after i stated i town read KTS for his aggressive push?

[Gamma Emerald]

Hello Hello Hello.

Before I RVS vote, let me introduce myself.

I’m a mediocre mafia player at best who really dislikes Day 1s.
I’ve been known to quick hammer peeps on Day 1 if it’s just a day or two
Into the game to get the game moving.

I’m generally quite active and polite. But I have been called terrible town, an idiot and a Liar.
As recently as my last game.

But I’m looking forward to a great game with this player list.

Can we not excuse d1 quickhammers

Just because you're terrible doesn't mean you get to bring everyone else down

oh gamma's taking multiple shots. i feel better now lol.

Exactly what does calling people terrible accomplish again? Why not just play with that in mind in stead of making sure everyone knows you think X is trash at the game? Are you the king of mafia? because we need to work as a team instead of degrading multiple people before we get into the actual game.

I can't say exactly what prompted this concern but I'm very concerned Havo might hammer the cop on accident for example

[Tchill13]

Luca Blight can also join the townclub. If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma.

pedit:

If we lynched Tchill and he flipped scum, I probably wouldn't townread KTS for it.

Them being scumbuddies could explain him continuing to hard-townread KTS even after KTS himself dismissed his point, but that's kinda meh. He'd stay null.

The Luca tr comes out of no where

Where is it supposed to come from? It's page 8. What he posted makes sense and appears to come from a town mindset.

"Oh look a towny who made a wall post that seems to have reasoning lets tr that"

...What I did was literally just townreading Luca. That's it. There's absolutely no reason why that means I'm scum here. Like maybe if you were scumreading me for not giving reasoning I could at least understand it. But what you're doing here just makes no sense at all.

The bolded is interesting cause the first thing that came to mind was "Partner with Tchill who knows he'll flip scum and is trying to not credit KTS"

... what. KTS isn't even voting Tchill. No, he doesn't get towncred because he pushed him for like a page at the start of a game.

I'm pretty happy voting this for now actually.
VOTE: MariaR

i don't like ausuka voting Maria immediately after maria makes some pushes on ausuka.

[Tchill13]

VOTE: katherine

Ausuka is my 2nd biggest SR. Gamma is a scum lean.

Maria, KTS and Cedrick town. Luca is a town lean.

Rest is null.

[Ausuka]

Luca Blight can also join the townclub. If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma.

pedit:

If we lynched Tchill and he flipped scum, I probably wouldn't townread KTS for it.

Them being scumbuddies could explain him continuing to hard-townread KTS even after KTS himself dismissed his point, but that's kinda meh. He'd stay null.

The Luca tr comes out of no where

Where is it supposed to come from? It's page 8. What he posted makes sense and appears to come from a town mindset.

"Oh look a towny who made a wall post that seems to have reasoning lets tr that"

...What I did was literally just townreading Luca. That's it. There's absolutely no reason why that means I'm scum here. Like maybe if you were scumreading me for not giving reasoning I could at least understand it. But what you're doing here just makes no sense at all.

The bolded is interesting cause the first thing that came to mind was "Partner with Tchill who knows he'll flip scum and is trying to not credit KTS"

... what. KTS isn't even voting Tchill. No, he doesn't get towncred because he pushed him for like a page at the start of a game.

I'm pretty happy voting this for now actually.
VOTE: MariaR

i don't like ausuka voting Maria immediately after maria makes some pushes on ausuka.

Then tell me why the reasons I gave aren't likely to come from town.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hm maybe so actually. Tchill why were you inconsistent with your treatment of mumble? You voted him and then said there was no reason to SR him. I understand you wanted to counterwagon but was there anything that made you want to vote them over say, Katherine or implosion?

had i layed down a meaningful vote it would have been between Mumble or katherine. I voted just to wagon. I haven't seen anything "scummy" from implosion yet.

I honestly voted mumble just because i was told to.

Well that isn't the best reason but it's acceptable.
UNVOTE:

[Killthestory]

looking for a deepwolf i'd say it could be maria as a likely candidate for it. luca i dont think so, and no one else looks like theyre trying to deepwolf. pr0bably just gonna keep maria on a leash the entire game lol.

gonna read up on tchill and make my final judgement on the dude.

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow.... That's a classic Katherine move right there.

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

VOTE: Maria

If you were a flower, you’d be a DAMNdelion

@havo why did you change your disclaimer from the last game?

Found my mason partner

Awesome post on page one man.

Woman. Sorry lol.

VOTE: tchill

this has got to die. i rolled village btw glgl me

Well that's a bit aggressive.

this response by TChill kinda feels like he's confused but doesn't want to be like "whymefryme"

wouldn't you be a bit confused if someone was determined you were scum after 4 minimal posts? it also could have been sarcasm so i was "testing the waters" to see if it was a serious statement or not.

I play chat mafia on Pokémon Showdown. I've gotten caught on minimal content. It's possible, and the general reaction is either rage or confusion or a mix of both.

[Gamma Emerald]

so is no one gonna link a tchill towngame?

Sure, one second.

[Killthestory]

how many mafia r there? didnt read setup lol

[northsidegal]

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