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[Gamma Emerald]

It was pretty weird - as Tchill admitted himself, he's being hypocritical criticising people for naked votes when he's been one of the worst for such.

Also the way he lumped Havo, Katherine and Mumble into the same pile and asked why Havo is scum and the other two aren't - I think all three can be independently scumread for different things, the possible exception being Katherine who simply hasn't posted much.

Tchill I'm generally town-leaning for activity and transparenct at the moment, though.

Okay. I wasn't sure what to make of it myself. I agree that all three being lumped together was weird, because they were quite different to me overall in terms of read and how I perceived them.

[Luca Blight]

Thinking about it, there has been a fair bit of resistance to Havo's wagon in general - Aukusa, implosion and Tchill have all spoken out against it, from what I recall.

I didn't really feel such resistance from the other wagons.

[northsidegal]

Hopkirk replaces brassherald.

[Hopkirk]

Hey gamma, can you summarise the game so far for me.

[Luca Blight]

Ausuka's 168 -

"If there's scum on Tchill it's Gamma"

- this is pretty bad given the lack of explanation, and given Ausuka was also scumreading and voting Tchill at the time - It's like she's already portioning blame for a potential mislynch.

209 - I don't get why she felt better about Maria after that exchange? I didn't personally think Maria came out of it looking that good, so I was surprised to see this unvote.

243 - she moves the goalposts against Tchill - he wasn't suspecting you based on your '

reasons'

- he was suspecting you based on your retaliatory vote.

358 - this pinged me as being a bit OTT to link four town games like that, and I believe Katherine was referring more to her own place in the table than the table itself.

366 -

"Maria definitely could be town here. IIRC we scumread each other last time we played together"

- yeah, and how does that relate to her being town this game? This feels like a possible attempt to make Maria think twice before scumreading her. She's also a bit sneaky in how she implies I jumped off Tchill only because the momentum of his wagon died down, ignoring the fact I was offline throughout that time and the fact I had my reasons for flipping my read on him. She makes out my vote on Katherine was bad because I hadn't scumread her before then? Err, she probably had about four posts at the time.

446 - Suddenly has me in the bottom tier based on the above. All traces of her opinion that my posts

'made sense'

and

'came from a townie mindset'

have been obliviated.

585 - This is a weird reaction - like, why not question why they exist instead of making a sarcastic remark?

697 - Weird defence of Havo - the reasons for why I voted him were clearly explained so I don't see what she doesn't 'get' there.

Ausuka's recent posts have been

meh

.

I'm alright voting here.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Ausuka

[Killthestory]

luca feels like a powerwolf, but it depends on what havo flips. i think i only lynch one of havo or luca.

[Hopkirk]

As of page 7, I don't get the latest votecount.

[Havo]

Thinking about it, there has been a fair bit of resistance to Havo's wagon in general - Aukusa, implosion and Tchill have all spoken out against it, from what I recall.

I didn't really feel such resistance from the other wagons.

I think there’s been other resistance to wagons. But ......
what do you think is the most likely reason for resistance to my lynch?
Say... name three.

[Luca Blight]

Tchill - '

Why is Havo scum but Mumble/Katherine not?

'
implosion - '

I don't like the Havo wagon

' (unspecified)
Ausuka -

I don't get the votes on Havo - they seem like playstyle related things.

'

Those were the stated reasons, but obviously the underlying reasons remain to be seen.

[Hopkirk]

Why is it not d2 with Gamma having scumflipped already?

[Hopkirk]

UNVOTE: Cedrick

Up to page 16. Have reads of some kind on everyone.

[Hopkirk]

The top 3 individual scumreads as of this point are Gamma/Maria/Implosion.

[Killthestory]

hopkirk can be a villa

[Tchill13]

Tchill - '

Why is Havo scum but Mumble/Katherine not?

'
implosion - '

I don't like the Havo wagon

' (unspecified)
Ausuka -

I don't get the votes on Havo - they seem like playstyle related things.

'

Those were the stated reasons, but obviously the underlying reasons remain to be seen.

Yall are getting caught upon havo specifically. Look at my statement as

Why is X scum but mumble/katherine not?

I'm gonna need to feel great about a scum read before I vote someone else that might be a mislynch I could avoid. I'm completely fine with mumble or katherine flipping town if we do lynch them. Saves town trouble in the long run. I'm not fine wasting a lynch on someone else and leaving them two on the board if we were to lynch a different townie.

[Hopkirk]

I don't get the concept of policy lynching D1 unless it's an open setup without a vig.

[Tchill13]

Well if we're playing against good scum it doesn't matter what we do.

[Hopkirk]

I'll read the last 10 pages after I eat.

[Killthestory]

Well if we're playing against good scum it doesn't matter what we do.

lololololol

[Creature]

Why did brassherald replace out?

[Creature]

Oh right.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hey gamma, can you summarise the game so far for me.

Game started out fine, then people started getting upset with each other and the mod warned some but not others, then the game sorta settled into apathy and we're now going on Mumble because he's lurking and when he does post he doesn't explain himself

[Gamma Emerald]

Why is it not d2 with Gamma having scumflipped already?

Because I'm not scum?

[Havo]

Well if we're playing against good scum it doesn't matter what we do.

The fact that we’re 35 pages in and this town can’t agree on what color the sky is much less agree on who to lynch, tells me that the scum team is good and we also have some stubborn townies in this game.

[Gamma Emerald]

What's really fun is hopkirk asking that question just to scumread me. Feels really fake.

[northsidegal]

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