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She is posting elsewhere.
Not sure why not here but probably not interested in this game rn

I know I wasn’t for rear end of day one

In post 1059, profii wrote:right ok I'm caught up.

I dont like this Quick wagon, If I'm not mistaken it's initial momentum was generated from Quick Vs Flavour Leaf being a thing.
That being said, why wagon this as a 1v1 when Quick has asked to replace out?

Just reading his ISO, it seems ...ok... i guess, the main thing i didnt like was that he initally calls Gamma a bit wooden but then doesnt put him in his lists of people who should die. I didnt really notice him come round and say ok you're town so not sure why he dropped out of the read list there.


The issue I have with the wagon, is we dont need to policy lynch someone right now. Inevitably someone will get PR'd and probably cause these 1v1s to cease so can we actually lynch someone scummy today.


I reckon 1 of NOS or Fire are likely scum for getting on that wagon.

I'm going to bring Fire into play here VOTE: FireBringer

Thoughts on this post

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- Says Quick is bad wagon
- Just made a read on him but somehow has to make an ISO after
- Defends it by saying should not be policy lynching
- Says one of Nos (scum) and fire (town prob) are scum
- Votes fire

Yeah I don’t like that

In post 1798, Mulch wrote:Why isn't

uh

north p0osting

i had bad reads

kind of hard to catch up on

-shrug-

i think it would probably be the most pro-town of me to just sheep someone honestly

i think red has a good chance to be scum, so

VOTE: redflavor

Sheep me?

yeah tex can also be scum but there's always the chance that i'm just misreading her (she seems to get scumread a lot) and my vote on the red wagon makes more of a difference in terms of the lynch actually going through

I mean Pere getting replaced also kind of indicates it’s scum

he hasn't made any posts on-site since his first one here, so i think it's probably NAI?

Meh, maybe

In post 1773, Inferno390 wrote:

In post 1755, TwoInAMillion wrote:Just because I don't write 10000 word posts doesn't mean I'm not helpful. I've already lynched one scum so that is a blatant lie.

According to me experience with the game, you did not lead that wagon. So that means zip in terms of this game.

2iam was the counterwagon to quick
actually lemme scout that real quick (LOL)

In post 1785, Firebringer wrote:Btw on setup spec

There’s a cop and a vigi

That’s alot of town power and the scum so far haven’t showed a lot to make up for that
So I am thinking either this setup is massively townsided or best scum roles haven’t flipped.

Probably massively townsided.

I guess Pine has a limited vig but my cop isn’t limited

meh cop + vig is somewhat balanced imo
I feel like nsg's winter wonderland kinda demonstrates this

In post 1808, Firebringer wrote:I mean Pere getting replaced also kind of indicates it’s scum

explain
I think pere is just a bit of a flake

okay so looking at the wagons I feel like we should be looking at (beef/redflavor/flubb/inferno) for scum on 2iam
inferno isn't as strong of a suspicion overall but he's in the middle of all of those so he get's thrown in

Will try to read later today. But for now, bed time

Hi, I will slowly be catching up today.

Did not suspect quick scum at all. They were at least from my PoV pretty easy to defend, and with the lynch occurring so close to deadline I don't suspect bussing.

Flavor leaf kill is odd. Yes, he got one scum, but he's been low effort/activity otherwise. I think he would have been easy to case and coast on at least till late game. That would originally suggest to me that either scum is newb scum afraid of a player that just got their buddy lynched, or our reads as a town are collectively bad. The latter clearly isn't the case, so I'm thinking there's a lot of new/awkward blood in the scum pool.

In post 1814, Gamma Emerald wrote:okay so looking at the wagons I feel like we should be looking at (beef/redflavor/flubb/inferno) for scum on 2iam
inferno isn't as strong of a suspicion overall but he's in the middle of all of those so he get's thrown in

I don't know about the other players, but if you a little vca/ISO sleuthing, you'll probably notice I had no drive behind the tiam wagon.

In post 1583, Firebringer wrote:Northsidegal is Town >.>

This is a strange thing to open the new day with. Can you talk to me about what made you feel this way right after the thread opened?

Flubber, fire hardaimed cop

In post 1744, texcat wrote:

In post 1702, Theta Alpine wrote:i do not think redflavor is important enough for a lynch

WTF does this mean?

VOTE: Theta Alpine
This is a scum POV. Wanting to kill important people is a very scummy thing to do. Scum want to kill PRs and town leaders, important people.

If RedFlavor is scum, we should lynch him whether or not he's "important".

In post 1684, Pine wrote:

In post 1682, TwoInAMillion wrote:Then I am not precluding you as a SK.

That's fair, and entirely within your power.

FWIW, there's absolutely no way I soft like this, or claim unprovoked, as a SK. There's zero advantage in it, as it practically guarantees I don't go to LYLO. I'm fine with that.

I haven't seen an sk in a while. Can you refresh me on how this works?

In post 1819, Archwing wrote:Flubber, fire hardaimed cop

Noted. I assume no Cc's either, then.

I am caught up to just after the vig claim and the middle of the town bloc being discussed.

Okay, I want to lay a few things out here now:

1) While I do have a strong belief that TIAM is scum, the vote I placed down is not meant to be a "tunnel until the game ends" vote. It was meant to make a point and put pressure on TIAM to actually give reads. Considering that he is flailing AGAIN in response, I'm finding it really hard to believe that he is town. But I'm not going to tunnel him to death today.

2) While I'm cool with the given plan for today I do want to do some serious associating today and see if it's possible to grab scum through how they interacted with our N1 scumkill (I forget the name and I'm too busy to look it up this second) as well as Quick. I think that Beef and Profii are both reasonable, I just don't want to jump the gun.

With that out of the way:

#1814: @Gamma, while I can see where you're coming from with this read, I do want to make the case that 1) I was on the TIAM wagon long before it could be considered a counter-wagon to Quick, 2) I was not at all against the Quick wagon. In fact, I was on the wagon for a period of time. I just ended up deciding I thought TIAM was scummier, and 3) You and I are the last two neighbors. Which for all intents and purposes does not mean much, but do you think that there were two scum in the hood?