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Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:28 am
by Irrelephant11
Math is right here. The relationship between 1 and 2 means nothing if 1 means nothing. 1 means nothing. Ergo, the relationship between mission 1 and 2 means nothing.

On the other hand, I don't think this is BuJ's main point (if it is I'm not seeing argued very well), but it can be argued that two players who are definitely not scum together should go on missions 2 and 3. I would say it's true that Math and TGP aren't scum together. I don't agree with the argument still, though, because I
also
don't think TGP and Math are
town
together.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:32 am
by Mathdino
what's your read on bujaber

i disagree with him on like everything but i guess i'm 'starting to see where his town self is coming from

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:52 am
by BuJaber
Irrelepuant is right yes. Because even if they are scum together it is really difficult to coordinate 3 missions in a row.

But as far as the point about mission 1 no.
You can use mission 1 if you repeat the same players. OTHERWISE it's meaningless. Trying to read math /tgp right now based on mission 1 is meaningless and we can't form a mission 2 team based on that.
But after mission 2 we can absolutely make reasonable assumptions based on results. For example if mission 2 passes tgp/math are almost guaranteed to be on the same team. Either two townies or 2 scum. Because they have no reason to fear putting a fail in mission 2 and it would be a huge gamble on being able to fail 3 missions in a row after that. (Willingly not sabotaging the first 2 missions as spy is suicide 9 out of ten times.)

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:57 am
by Mathdino
...if mission 2 passes then we've essentially won already

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:59 am
by Irrelephant11
My read on BuJ is still bad. My personal perspective is BuJ is annoyed that two resistance found each other and is throwing maximum shade at us so as to pocket the third member.

Actually, we can maybe just go back to BuJaber, Iconeum, TGP at this point?

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:06 am
by Mathdino
what possible scumteams are you seeing

because it seems almost certain that at least one scum has proposed a mission with themselves and their partner

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:01 am
by Irrelephant11
Well after Spyfall you're scum always forever. Nah jk I can't even imagine you on any scumteams so the game is yours if you're a spy

TGP/Ico seems weird to me as a team. I guess they could just be observing town self-destruct? But it seems unlikely. I think BuJ is the talkative scum here, and TGP is more likely his partner than Ico - again because of the first two posts of the game.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 9:03 am
by Mathdino
haha i only won spyfall because i figured out the location on page 2 :lol:
i was playing my towngame after that

i want more content from paradox

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:32 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
fine
fricking
scumteam is buj/ico
i'm town
dino makes a great argument for him being town
irrelephant is obvtown
i don't understand how dino hasn't solved this game already I stand with my previous vote

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:45 pm
by Mathdino
Paradox is correct from his pov
Idk if that makes me suspect him more or less xD
I can't really fault him like I fault Buj/icon haha

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:00 pm
by brassherald
Vote Count 2.6
Iconeum, TheGoldenParadox, BuJaber(1)~
BuJaber
Iconeum, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox(1)~
Iconeum
TheGoldenParadox, Mathdino, Ireelephant11(1)~
TheGoldenParadox
Iconeum, Mathdino, Irrelephant11 (1)~
Irrelephant11
Not Voting (1)~
Mathdino

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-04-30 20:20:00).

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:24 pm
by TheGoldenParadox
I'm also fine with {icon, buj, anyone else} tbh
i want either all town or two scum 1 town so these are the ones i'm fine with from most to least
{me, Dino, elephant}
{ico, buj, me}
{ico, buj, dino}
{ico, buj, elephant}

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:29 pm
by Mathdino
thus far the only team consistent with the actual votes is bujaber/irrelephant

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:32 pm
by Mathdino
In post 23, Iconeum wrote:VOTE: math,paradox,iconeum
this might've been correct the whole time actually

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2018 6:20 pm
by BuJaber
It is from icon's pov

From yours it doesn't matter who goes with you/tgp. Also from tgp's pov.

I literally voted for 2 out 4 of tgp's proposals and nobody voted with me.

Can we please do me/math/tgp? This should be obvious to everyone now it's the best way to catch spies before endgame. And accepting a mission you are not in in a 5 player is a spyclaim. There is no leap of faith here if you are town any 3 man mission you are not in has a spy or two guaranteed. I don't know if you just derped or if this is a slip.

VOTE: math, me, tgp

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 12:17 am
by brassherald
Vote Count 2.7
Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox, BuJaber(1)~
BuJaber
Iconeum, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox(1)~
Iconeum
TheGoldenParadox, Mathdino, Irrelephant11(1)~
TheGoldenParadox
Iconeum, Mathdino, Irrelephant11 (1)~
Irrelephant11
Not Voting (1)~
Mathdino

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-04-30 20:20:00).

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 5:23 am
by TheGoldenParadox
In post 139, BuJaber wrote:It is from icon's pov

From yours it doesn't matter who goes with you/tgp. Also from tgp's pov.
Untrue.
I prefer the person I'm townreading the most and I think is probably aligned the same as dino. That's elephant.

Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2018 2:33 pm
by brassherald
In post 140, brassherald wrote:
Vote Count 2.8
Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox, BuJaber(1)~
BuJaber
Iconeum, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox(1)~
Iconeum
TheGoldenParadox, Mathdino, Irrelephant11(1)~
TheGoldenParadox
Iconeum, Mathdino, Irrelephant11 (1)~
Irrelephant11
Not Voting (1)~
Mathdino

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2018-04-30 20:20:00).
I find this to be my funny way to do votecounts.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:41 pm
by brassherald
Irrelephant and Iconeum have been prodded, should there be no reply, I will grant an extension of time until after replacements are found

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:20 pm
by Iconeum
Seeing how almost nobody wants me in a mission, I assume I'm being scumread?
Because of?

If not, why am I not on more missions or why is nobody voting for my mission?

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 6:27 pm
by Mathdino
VOTE: Iconeum, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox

this is the only mission that's consistent by the votes if we go on the assumption that scum will not put the entire scumteam on the mission

open to being convinced otherwise

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:01 pm
by BuJaber
I offered icon/irrelephant/me and icon/tgp/me but no takers so I went back to my objectively better team of me/math/tgp.

Posted: Sun Apr 29, 2018 7:45 pm
by Iconeum
In post 145, Mathdino wrote:VOTE: Iconeum, Mathdino, TheGoldenParadox

this is the only mission that's consistent by the votes if we go on the assumption that scum will not put the entire scumteam on the mission

open to being convinced otherwise
I thought you scumread TGP? Why do you want him in this mission then?

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:21 am
by brassherald
I forgot to do a VC here. I'll do it when I get to work today.

Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:27 am
by Iconeum
is 2 votes for the same team enough for majority?