Mini Normal 2009: Day 6

[profii]

lol

[profii]

Show me some of that Morality / Wilky stuff please

[Mathdino]

Ctrl F stans iso for wilky and morality
Then ctrl F their ISOs for each other

I assumed morality knew wilky would flip town
My hope was that a green flip on morality would clear una

[profii]

So I did that

I can see you mention that Morality “knows” Wilky would flip town but you didn’t really say any more than that

It generally look like you were bread crumbing that you were going to shoot Morality

That’s wonderful - but tbh it just fits into the narrative of a long game “I’m a 2 shot vig not a SK honest”

At the point when we got Wilky I think me and Morality were pretty much on the same page - even with dealing with VI!Gus as we both knew he was town - that just makes me think because you vet your replace in that you knew me and Morality would go on to form a major town block after the Wilky flip and you had to split it up rather than kill obv scum AA9


I really hope Una and N-M can see this.

[Mathdino]

I wasn't going to shoot morality had wilky flipped town

I shot because of the association

Had wilky flipped town I'd probably have shot aa9 to make sure the game continued

[Mathdino]

I guarantee the dead thread is not at all a fan of the theory that there's only 2 mafia

I really don't know how to broadcast to you how embarrassing this is going to be

Again, while I was busy during the week, you spent your time tinfoiling theories instead of actually looking for SK setups

I would not fucking pass
1 mafia goon + 1 mafia odd night commuter
VS
1 serial killer
VS
1 Mason, 1 ubackup mason, 1 even night commuter, 1 jailkeeper

That's 4 town power roles vs almost 0 mafia power
That's outright a ridiculous setup
I balance setups by the notion that the number of confirmable town should equal the number of mafia

2 masons is already a LOT
Now 1 mason can become a jailkeeper?
Now the jailkeeper can get guilties on the serial killer or mafia goon?

Fuck that setup idea

[Mathdino]

Just checked, its actually a roleblocker

That's even stronger than jailkeeper in that setup because the roleblocker can get harder guilties than JK

[profii]

But you’d be ok with with all that and a town 2 shot vig?

They both seem oddly balanced


However imo with a RB aiming for 2 killing factions and _in theory_ someone commuting every night, it’s no wonder that we didn’t get 2 kills every night which to me gives the setup some credibility because whilst I’m pretty sure you’re a SK there is still a element of doubt about it right up to the finish line

But you have to argue a SK can’t be here so I don’t blame you

[Mathdino]

Yes because one scum power role hasn't flipped yet, and it's probably a rolecop or a roleblocker

Im not fucking arguing there can't be an sk

I'm arguing there must be another mafia or else mafia lost when the game passed review

I've said multiple times
Yes, I could be an sk by balance, but there must be another mafia member and lynching me is throwing no matter what

[Mathdino]

You don't understand balance around 3rd parties because you haven't given enough shits to go do the research

[profii]

I wasn't going to shoot morality had wilky flipped town

I shot because of the association

Had wilky flipped town I'd probably have shot aa9 to make sure the game continued

I see the logic in keeping AA9 to the end - having more town people around to hunt the unknown scum seems sensible

But it doesn’t seem to be working

Have you got much experience of a Vig shooting rogue from the town hive mind of pretty much being set on a particular scum being a succsess? (In this case you not shooting AA9 on everyone’s behalf is almost arrogant - so I’m calling it out as anti town in a massive way)

[profii]

You don't understand balance around 3rd parties because you haven't given enough shits to go do the research

But you don’t give enough shits to convince me Una scum so here we are

[profii]

VOTE: Mathdino

[Mathdino]

I shouldn't have to convince you of una scum
I should be spending my personal time reading through the game and deciding between you two
I'm not even sure of una scum
You're voting confirmed not mafia on the outside chance there's a 3p and the mod and reviewers are all dumb asses
Have you even ever played an SK game?

[profii]

Yeah, funnily enough it had masons and an odd night commuter

[Mathdino]

Have you got much experience of a Vig shooting rogue from the town hive mind of pretty much being set on a particular scum being a succsess? (In this case you not shooting AA9 on everyone’s behalf is almost arrogant - so I’m calling it out as anti town in a massive way)

I didn't read town consensus

Guess what

Most of the townies who wanted aa9 shot were still fucking suspects

Yes I believe in democracy on d1
But this town failed to lynch scum twice, and the democratic shot on voyc also failed

When it's likely that the majority of voices are incompetent or scum, then no, I'm not listening to consensus, I'm listening to my predecessor and myself, WHO IS CONFIRMED TOWN TO ME

[Mathdino]

Yeah, funnily enough it had masons and an odd night commuter

Do the research or get mocked post-game

[profii]

Yeah, funnily enough it had masons and an odd night commuter

Do the research or get mocked post-game

That was a serious post I was not referring to this game

[Mathdino]

Aa9 felt like a designated mislynch set up by some subset of {Gustavo, Una, profii, Morality}
The day seemed to come to wilky vs aa9
I didn't want to play into scums hands
And scum was townreading morality yet not shooting him

[Mathdino]

Ffs making me do the work for your lazy ass

viewtopic.php?p=9867031#p9867031

THAT WAS A 11P SETUP WITH A WEAKER TOWN THAN WE HAVE THIS GAME
THAT TOWN CAN'T GET GUILTIES ON SCUM, THIS TOWN CAN

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME

[Mathdino]

Nm this town loses to profii in lylo anyway if we no lynch, and he's not gonna vote una

Just lynch profii, it's over

[profii]

It’s kinda lame that you are not taking about any players actions in this game at all and just attempting to throw setup discussion around - I can only think you would do this in an open because it creates the doubt you need.

But anyway

The roleblock is weakened by the multiball to no longer be a guilty

Eg in my narrative, your slot decided to no shoot n1 and Gus RB’d Morality
LA Galaxy died

So does that make Moraity an inno because a NK happened? No.
Did that make him guilty as soon as a second shot appeared? No

[profii]

Nm this town loses to profii in lylo anyway if we no lynch, and he's not gonna vote una

Just lynch profii, it's over

I’ll vote una when you stop throwing game mechanics around and tell me why he is scum

[Mathdino]

My slot flaked out that night lol
A 2 man scumteam would, in that scenario, know that morality is the SK
Because they know there must be an sk for 2p scumteam to make sense

The roleblocker is stronger than the doctor
We're talking about a town with stronger power roles, 2 more VTs, against weaker scum roles, and you still think this could be 2 mafia 1 SK after seeing how weak a town has to be?

Directly compare the town of Godels game to the town this game

[Mathdino]

Nm this town loses to profii in lylo anyway if we no lynch, and he's not gonna vote una

Just lynch profii, it's over

I’ll vote una when you stop throwing game mechanics around and tell me why he is scum

HOLY SHIT I'M NOT TRYING TO CONVINCE YOU
IF YOU USED YOUR BRAIN THIS WOULD BE OBVIOUS

I don't want to have to lynch based on who's going to lynch me
I want to lynch based on my read through, and my read currently sits on you being scum
NM disagrees
This is a convo between me and him, deciding between you two
In no universe am I a viable lynch candidate