Lynch the Wolves (Game Over)

[Brian Skies]

Hello.

I promise my next post will be better.

[Brian Skies]

Last Night Before I Replaced In

It is true that Math did indeed want RC's flip. And then Creature wasn't really interested in Theta or Titus (calling them coinflip slots) before Vax, my short-lived predecessor, offered up Oath since Oath claimed to not be town (why Vax did this, I have no idea, but that's indeed what happened). Yuurei made some post that was [redacted] and then Vax maybe got replaced as a result? I have no idea what happened but I'm blaming Yuurei.

What is interesting is that Math was convinced my slot was town because of this but now he isn't because I wouldn't give him Oath.

Regarding Oath and Theta

Oath probably would have been the lynch last night, and while I did vote for it just to lock something in (and because I hadn't read pretty much anything at the time), I wasn't really all that interested after sifting through Oath's iso. I believed the claim, said so, and even pointed out that we should really have no interest in eliminating non-werewolves. Math didn't care and said the slot was beyond redemption because it was tunneling him (not that I care about stuff like that), but maybe Math's wincon is different from mine.

I asked him for other options, and Math agreed that he would be interested in going for either RC or Theta (both slots I was also interested in). I was getting tired of all the low-key scumreads on Theta in the game and people tying other people to a Theta scum-flip. RC did this twice, once with Luna-Theta (before going straight after Luna) and again with Math-Theta (before going straight after Math). Theta also seemed only interested in voting Math and some of her theories seemed to be made only to defend RC's claim rather than her seeming to try and find anything incriminating on him, so I thought maybe the two could be partners. I really thought the game needed a Theta flip, said so, and I thought Theta was scummy anyway.

I did know that RC fakeclaimed, but RC fakeclaims as town anyway, and I wasn't really taking the slot seriously after the Luna flip. Do I feel a little bad for going for Theta instead of RC? Not really. I didn't know the context of RC's fakeclaim against Math at the time of me locking in the lynch and didn't until this morning.

Hilariously, Math tried to get me to vote Oath, saying Creature was a lurker and that he probably wouldn't be counted on to hammer a Theta lynch (but that Math would hammer Theta if it came down to it). And then he gives me some nonsense about how Theta was scummy, but not worth our time because 'there are more important flips.' Apparently vampires are a big deal. Who knew? Maybe there's some secret underlying Twilight motifs we aren't aware of.

And then 'we need RC's flip a hell of a lot more than Theta's' before 'just vote Oath,' to which I stood my ground and he said he would lynch me if Theta flipped green (to which I didn't care because I was expecting Theta to flip wolf and Math was scumreading Theta anyway??????). Also probably why he's going after me here, because he thinks I'm just going to lie down and let him lynch me.

Like, the entire scenario last night was ridiculous. Why should I have had to explain why Oath is probably not scum here? And why is Math throwing a bitch fit that I wanted to lynch Theta (who we both agreed on if it came down to it) instead of Oath (who I straight up told him I wasn't interested in)?

Regarding Creature

I don't know why this guy is in the neighborhood. All I know is that Math offered him up as a recruit on Night 1 and Yuurei agreed. Maybe it was explained somewhere, but Creature doesn't give me very good vibes. And he seemed mostly indifferent with whatever we did last night.

I also don't know what his deal with Vecna is. I think Vecna is town.

He also doesn't seem to like Muffin, but w/e. Cheeky wasn't all that great anyway.

Regarding the Neighborhood

I don't really care about it all that much, to be honest. Math has been treating it like some sort of masonry (or maybe a shield), to which I don't really agree with. We have a non-werewolf killing power as it is, and I do think giving town two extra killing powers (the one with the shooting flavor and the neighborhood) seems like a little much. I'm also a little irked out by his lack of interest in sorting people's alignment from the hood, and with the exception of me refusing to lynch Oath for him, he's seemed more than happy to townread people from there.

Anyhow, that's my two cents. I originally didn't like RC + Theta last night, especially since I thought the two could be partners. But Theta townflip makes me think RC was probably just town, and now I think maybe it's just Creature + Math + maybe Ank? + maybe someone else if it's a 4 wolf team.

VOTE: Mathblade

I don't really care if you lynch me. I mainly joined to keep this game from stalling or being abandoned. I just couldn't approve of an Oath lynch last night.

P.S. It's interesting that there's no flip from the werewolf killing flavor (maybe they went after Oath?), so probably another reason for me to think Math is scummy.

[Brian Skies]

I'm also okay with an RC flip, but Math is just hilariously bad and I kind of want to burn this hood to the ground.

[Brian Skies]

Also, Gamma wasn't there last night. He should still be able to serve as a witness to the events though.

[Brian Skies]

Actually, it was explained why Creature was recruited in the hood, but meh.

[Brian Skies]

Vecna is innocent. I now have a three person townbloc.

One thing I wanted to ask you, what results are you getting? Is it 'this person has no PT' or 'no result'?

[Brian Skies]

He specifically vetoed Oath AND RC vigs to put it on Theta who flipped green.

I also want to point out that the ONLY vig I veto'ed was Oath.

I just wanted Theta's flip.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Creature

I'm okay with recruiting Nos or Vecna.

[Brian Skies]

i did not know you wanted to vig oath. i think thats unnecessary.

This is what I told him, and he wouldn't listen to me.

Also, it's not like he was pushing RC. RC was his

compromise

to Oath, and he was still trying to get me to lynch Oath.

[Brian Skies]

and I am in a zero fucks mood for a settle after my last settle ended up on town

Your literal stated lynchpool, before I ever replaced in, was literally {Titus, Oath, Theta}.

What is this settling?

[Brian Skies]

I even mentioned exactly what Oath would do which was tunnel me and oh yeah it happened

Sorry, I'm only here to lynch wolves, not manage your town credibility.

[Brian Skies]

I even mentioned exactly what Oath would do which was tunnel me and oh yeah it happened

Sorry, I'm only here to lynch wolves, not manage your town credibility.

OATH CLAIMED NOT TOWN = LIKELY WOLF
RC FAKeD TWO gUILTIES = WOLF

I fucking kill not town

Alright, sure.

But why does Oath-scum claim 'not town' unprompted?

You could argue that it was to derail the Theta lynch, but Theta flipped town, so...?

[Brian Skies]

Also, I still maintain that I never veto'ed RC.

[Brian Skies]

muffin can still die

Hi, should I suicide bomb there?

Sure, but is there any reason for that over the unresolved Titus/Math thing or Ank?

[Brian Skies]

are wolves excuse me I mean “vampires”

I'm neither of these things.

[Brian Skies]

It's your role, do what you want.

I was just curious.

[Brian Skies]

unresolved Titus/Math

Also, for the record, it's impossible for RC to have gotten a positive track result on Math N1.

[Brian Skies]

Also, I still maintain that I never veto'ed RC.

And you did several times will get the post numbers tomorrow

I gotta get back to work

Go for it.

And then you'll realize that I only outright rejected Oath's lynch and

tabled

RC because I was still

reading

.

[Brian Skies]

177 is a sample

So piss off Skies

You were Theta or nothing

I gotta go

You mean the post where I said I would consider RC, but that you should just vote Theta to see if Creature will show up and vote that or not?

And that you should just give up on Oath?

[Brian Skies]

Yes, I was very hard and direct about Theta, but that was because 152 from you gave me bad vibes. It felt like you were trying to use lurking-Creature as an excuse to get me to vote Oath, who I didn't want to lynch at all. And the entire rest of the night was mostly about you trying to persuade me to vote Oath (who I told you I didn't want), but I was never against lynching RC.

PEdit: Yes, I said I wasn't feeling him

at that moment

, because I hadn't read the context for anything he did in relation to you. You do realize all the interactions in question regarding you and RC came at like, page 90+, right?

[Brian Skies]

You said you weren’t feeling RC right now

That is a veto

Eat rope

Like, that is literally in the same post where I said I would consider RC. How is that a veto?

[Brian Skies]

Brian, let's say someone visited the dead guy. Problem or no?

Which dead guy?

[Brian Skies]

It was us and the non-werewolf killing role.

[Brian Skies]

It's the werewolf kill flavor that's missing.

[Brian Skies]

I

know that because I'm part of the lynch mob that lynched Theta (which is confirmed in both my Role PM and my Neighborhood with Gamma/Creature/Math) and the shooting killing flavor is verified to me in my Role PM.

[Brian Skies]

I

know that because I'm part of the lynch mob that lynched Theta (which is confirmed in both my Role PM and my Neighborhood with Gamma/Creature/Math) and the shooting killing flavor is verified to me in my Role PM.

Yes. Your killing flavor for whatever hood your in. I'm assuming that's not fabricated (and if it was all of you would agree to said fabrication, making null). How can we verify the other flavor is not wolf?

Idk. Lynch me?

It should be obvious considering it was there on Night 1 in ADDITION to the one that is very obviously the wolf killing flavor.

[Brian Skies]

You said you weren’t feeling RC right now

That is a veto

Eat rope

Like, that is literally in the same post where I said I would consider RC. How is that a veto?

No you don’t

You said one sentence about RC

That you’re not interested in RC right now

This game has ceased being fun for a while when you have RC make up bullshit
Oath who gives zero fucking reasons because I would destroy them being town
And Skies who literally won’t let me shoot the toxic slots

And so I am just fucking done

V/LA til monday

YES

I SAID ONE FUCKING SENTENCE BECAUSE I HADN'T READ THE FUCKING GAME YET AND DIDN'T HAVE A DEVELOPED OPINION ON THE SLOT

IS IT SO DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO RUB TWO BRAIN CELLS TOGETHER TO FIGURE THAT OUT

REALLY?????

[Brian Skies]

Almost50, Human Jailkeeper, was torn to shreds N1.

This is the one you're looking for.

[Brian Skies]

Also, why would I lynch you?

I didn't say you

should

lynch me.

You asked me how you could trust that information and I gave you a way you could do that.

[Brian Skies]

You said one sentence about RC

That you’re not interested in RC right now

127, 133, 139

All posts of me expressing suspicion on the slot.

172, 177

Both me saying I prefer Theta over RC because I wasn't convinced RC-slot was scum yet (because I hadn't read those interactions yet). Also I was getting annoyed with you trying to shove Oath down my throat.

201

Me expressing suspicion of RC again.

[Brian Skies]

Oath, the bloodsucking vampire.

[Brian Skies]

Get rid of not town claimers.

Is this, like, a genetic thing?

[Brian Skies]

Sure, you can call us vigs. Although we're just angry lynchers.

[Brian Skies]

I am just ignoring Skies because more misrep is gonna send my BP sky high

How have I misrep'ed you?

[Brian Skies]

Look man.

I don't know RC that well. And I have trouble reading slots like those. I just know he likes to do things that piss off other players.

[Brian Skies]

He was telling you who the vig was (and I was telling Titus who you thought the vig was).

[Brian Skies]

Look man.

I don't know RC that well. And I have trouble reading slots like those. I just know he likes to do things that piss off other players.

Not knowing someone doesn't mean you can't form an opinion on them.

130 pages Gamma.

130

Do you know when RC decided to fakeclaim on Math?

Right here. Page 94.

Also doesn't really seem like an actual claim to me, just him claiming it to cement the 1v1.

[Brian Skies]

Tbh, we should lynch Oath after Math anyway if Math flips wolf.

Why do you think this?

[Brian Skies]

Tbh, we should lynch Oath after Math anyway if Math flips wolf.

Why do you think this?

Oath claimed not town with exact town wincon. Unless a lot of proof comes in otherwise, when someone tells you they are not town the first time, believe them.

So why are we lynching Oath if Math flips wolf?

Or at all?

[Brian Skies]

I actually live by this myself- I only claimed in the hopes that I'm not the only Vampire and once I flip you guys will show mercy to the next Vampire claim who can prove so.

Maybe then we both win. But I'm down to be lynched after MathBlade. This is game is a lot anyway.

This is an interesting self-sacrificial position you're holding, but really has nothing to do with what Titus just asserted.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Titus

Since I might not have to vote Creature anymore.

[Brian Skies]

It was that I agree with that philosophy of lynching claimed non-town. If I weren't in my position I would usually do it too. The difference in this game is that you've yet to lynch scum which why I'm now saying I'm okay with my lynch AFTER MathBlade.

Yesterday I was okay with going before him. Didn't you read that? But having two more townies flip make me want to be apart of the discussion because I can't win if it keeps going like this.

Okay, but like...

Titus said we were lynching you AFTER Math flips WOLF.

Don't you see any issue with her statement here?

[Brian Skies]

Tbh, we should lynch Oath after Math anyway if Math flips wolf.

Why do you think this?

Oath claimed not town with exact town wincon. Unless a lot of proof comes in otherwise, when someone tells you they are not town the first time, believe them.

So why are we lynching Oath if Math flips wolf?

Or at all?

[Brian Skies]

Tbh, we should lynch Oath after Math anyway if Math flips wolf.

Why do you think this?

Oath claimed not town with exact town wincon. Unless a lot of proof comes in otherwise, when someone tells you they are not town the first time, believe them.

So why are we lynching Oath if Math flips wolf?

Or at all?

He claimed not town.

Who gives a shit?

Why do you think Math and Oath are wolves together?

[Brian Skies]

@Brian, If the game is confirmed town and wolves, then the phantom unicorn third party that Oath claims doesn't exist.

It is town and wolves, yes. That doesn't mean there can't be third parties. Where does it say there can't be?

What in this game makes you believe the two could be scum together? So you think Math tries to force an Oath lynch on me last night, then rails on me today because I wouldn't...what? Lynch his buddy?

[Brian Skies]

I am not aware of third party not confirmed being a thing. I think you or Gamma said this game was wolves/humans. If Oath is a third party, he can be scum without being Math aligned.

One of each "race" makes sense for the hood as well. That makes sense on why Math attacks your slot for not killing Oath. Math wanted a crosskill.

What are you even talking about?

Where is this second wolfkill flavor?

This game is called LYNCH THE WOLVES! And this is almost certainly not multiball.

[Brian Skies]

I am not aware of third party not confirmed being a thing. I think you or Gamma said this game was wolves/humans. If Oath is a third party, he can be scum without being Math aligned.

One of each "race" makes sense for the hood as well. That makes sense on why Math attacks your slot for not killing Oath. Math wanted a crosskill.

What are you even talking about?

Where is this second wolfkill flavor?

This game is called LYNCH THE WOLVES! And this is almost certainly not multiball.

If it's not multiball, how can Oath exist?

Because Oath is probably a red herring to distract the town from doing what they're supposed to do (i.e. lynching the wolves).

[Brian Skies]

why would scum need to recruit a third scum to the neighborhood

just kill the town

@Brian, is it unaminity to kill or maj? Math made it sound like total agreement. I think that's Ank's hang up

It is literally impossible for us to lynch anyone unless everyone in the hood agrees to it.

We only need a majority to recruit.

[Brian Skies]

We also can't lynch anyone else in the neighborhood.

[Brian Skies]

?

[Brian Skies]

Pardon me for thinking it had literally anything to do with this game.

[Brian Skies]

I'm not going to sit here and explain the setup to Titus.

Let me know when I'm needed again.

[Brian Skies]

I

know that because I'm part of the lynch mob that lynched Theta (which is confirmed in both my Role PM and my Neighborhood with Gamma/Creature/Math) and the shooting killing flavor is verified to me in my Role PM.

And why would a lynching mob have a shooting flavour?

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Brian Skies]

but with outed scum

it’s better to shoot

. I have my reasons but can’t explain them

when scum!Skies is still in the hood

.

You're hilarious.

creature is probably scum whos never actually going to explode on anyone and mathblade is probably scum who recruited him into that hood to influence the kill

2) If this was the case me and Skies never would argue. Creature would just say no to whatever Skies wanted as Gamma was not in the hood so Me+Creature would have majority. The fact Theta died disproves that case

This actually does make some sense and disproves Math+Creature for me.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Muffin

[Brian Skies]

do you actually think i'm scum, brian?

I'm not sure what I believe anymore, Muffin.

[Brian Skies]

So why did you

drain

Hebi?

[Brian Skies]

Well, I was scumreading Math for his pants-on-head tunnel on me, but it's probably not him, and he's probably just legitimately pissed off that I strongarmed him onto Theta last night (which I'm still not apologizing for).

I don't think Math can be a wolf with Creature (I should actually probably be voting Creature again, at least to force him to prove he's a suicide bomber, but I don't think the other players in this game will do that).

I don't think Titus is town.

I don't think Ank is town (if she is, it's probably with Math, which I doubt). I also don't see why Ank doesn't want to massclaim unless she just has something to hide.

Oath I was okay with until she claimed a drain on hebi.

hebi, Vecna, and Nos I think are town, and HWS I guess by proxy.

I don't think I've read a single AA9 post in any detail at all this game, so I guess that slot

could

be a wolf, although it would be a PoE read and not because I actually believe that.

I don't understand why you picked Theta. I know you explained it, just not what I would expect from an actual 'cop' role unless you just wanted to confirm a scumread or something. Idk, I didn't really put a lot of thought into voting you, and I've been kind of lazing about for a bit since I realized the deadline is 3 weeks long.

[Brian Skies]

Creature revoked his suicide bomber claim.

He could still be scum, I guess.

[Brian Skies]

So, what'd you get from Aronis/Gamma?

[Brian Skies]

Why not drain Titus?

[Brian Skies]

Okay, so why not try and Drain a wolfread?

[Brian Skies]

Brian, you are not subtle. Whatever issue you got with me, let's have it out.

What are you talking about?

She was wolfreading Math and Vecna (maybe someone else?), so I want to know why she picked hebi instead of one of them. Trying to drain hebi for an ability is an interesting choice, but since it comes with a roleblock, her action becomes a little circumspect.

@Oath: Also, on that note, are there any conditions you may be aware of that would cause your ability to fail?

[Brian Skies]

You asked him why not me then why not a wolfread. You have implied you suddenly find me scummy and Math suddenly town.

So whatever happened let's talk about it rather than trying to suggest I am scum.

Well, I think like half the playerlist is scummy, so...

I don't think you wanting to chain Math -> Oath is town-motivated. That's pretty much it.

I don't think Math and Oath can be partners, and you wanting to lynch Oath just because she claimed not town seems like you reaching for a free lynch. I get it requires Math to be scum, and you and Math are probably not scum together, it's just not a thought process I think town would have.

Especially since our only goal is to lynch Wolves, and lynching not-wolves, even if they've claimed not town, is just a distraction and waste of our time.

[Brian Skies]

and I can't prevent(roleblock) the kill because it's as a faction.

How do we (or you) know this?

[Brian Skies]

Titus, our win condition only says to lynch wolves.

I just don't see Math trying to force me to lynch Oath and then throwing a tantrum against me today for not lynching Oath if they're buddies.

[Brian Skies]

and I can't prevent(roleblock) the kill because it's as a faction.

How do we (or you) know this?

Because my role pm specifically outlines that I cannot block factional actions the same night I drain because THINK ABOUT IT - ex: scumz immediately have PT access at nightfall, the mod doesn't know who I'm going to drain (or what anyone else's night actions will result in) until submitted meaning they'll have already had the chance to begin discussions. If I successfully do drain all those factional abilities will be in effect the following night.

I know this because it was stated to me. My role pm is actually quite long, honestly and if it weren't for the fact that it's against the rules to quote I'd post it here. I have zero reason to lie about this. It's not like it makes me look good, so why would you think I'm wolf instead of Vampire? Seems like a reach.

Do you have a guilty conscience or something?

I was actually just curious if it was mentioned somewhere or if it was something specific to you.

The PT access being delayed makes sense to me and it was confirmed in our neighborhood when Gamma lost his access.

Abilities are : Drain- ability to target someone and block all active, passive, and factional abilities for that night except for PT that would be blocked the following night for obvious reasons

Also, you literally claimed that you can block factional abilities, so...

[Brian Skies]

Was that just a hammer?

Did I put Muffin to L-1?

Why did I think this game was larger than it actually is?

[Brian Skies]

The game is probably not going to end from this lynch, so I have no idea why you're suddenly accusing us of being quickhammering scum (especially since my vote was there for a while and I had no idea it was even at L-1).

[Brian Skies]

Unvote: Muffin

It was a false alarm guys.

We can all thank Gamma later.

I thought there was a reason I didn't think Muffin was at L-1 before.

[Brian Skies]

I believe Oath's claim. And I no longer have a huge issue with her draining Hebi if her intention was to copy or whatever. Honestly, outside of maybe Oath (which does seem like it would threaten wolves if it can seriously roleblock the NK, which is what she claimed

yesterday

), I feel like Hebi should have been the most likely to have drawn a kill last night just based on claim, so...

The werewolf kill is also still missing and Oath's role is the only one so far that seems able to have drawn a NK and survive.

GE also did lose access to the PT last night, which I've said on at least one or two occasions already. And it was verified by Jingle at the beginning of Night 2.

I've walked in a giant circle, but I'm back to wanting to lynch Math or Titus. I really don't care which one at this point, but I'm currently leaning Math since he really really wanted Oath last night (and I think going for a double whammy on a self-reviving Vampire seems like something Maf would want).

VOTE: MathBlade

[Brian Skies]

.... Yeah after me demonstrating logic to you and working with you you’re back to me scum. Ugh can we like not repeat day two please?

I am tired of trying to stop the silliness.

I can do Titus.

Like I said, not picky.

Anyone else, I'd probably need to be convinced.

[Brian Skies]

I'm not a wolf, but whatever.

VOTE: Titus

[Brian Skies]

Oh I am pretty sure you are. Titus’s flip would prove it.

How would a Titus flip prove it?

[Brian Skies]

Oh I am pretty sure you are. Titus’s flip would prove it.

How would a Titus flip prove it?

Titus replaced RC.
RC faked a guilty on Luna Nova
RC then turned around and faked a guilty on me and got proven false.
He was so destructive the mod force replaced him. He was disgusting as fuck.

Have you caught up yet?

What does any of this have to do with me?

[Brian Skies]

Oh I am pretty sure you are. Titus’s flip would prove it.

How would a Titus flip prove it?

Titus replaced RC.
RC faked a guilty on Luna Nova
RC then turned around and faked a guilty on me and got proven false.
He was so destructive the mod force replaced him. He was disgusting as fuck.

Have you caught up yet?

What does any of this have to do with me?

1) It is extremely likely there is scum in the hood.
2) If Titus flips town I would be shocked but it would be highly indicative of me which would be a frame job which means you. Gamma/Aronis wouldn’t have had enough influence it’d have to have been you’re predecessor who flakes and we almost pushed til they showed up.
3) If Titus flips scum this means I am pretty much confTown which means we are back to you and Gamma/Aronis

Or there is an all town hood which with how Titus was denied to me I am leaning you if Titus flips scum and you’re bussing for cred.

And yes you’ve ranted you didn’t deny it but anyone can read that hood and see you did.

1) Maybe, but I'm not a wolf. And I don't think Gamma is either.
2) I've done zero framing, but sure, I can maybe see you thinking this (there are probably only so many people that can be scum at this point, so sure). However, if you're oh so convinced she's scum, why are you suddenly putting a qualifier here?
3) Extremely likely doesn't mean definitely, and this

still

doesn't prove I'm a wolf, regardless of what Titus flips.

Also, once again, this doesn't explain why Titus flipping

any alignment

proves that I'd be a wolf.

Gamma has access to the hood. Why don't you ask him if I've lied or misrepresented

literally anything

that's gone on in there.

[Brian Skies]

1) Yes it fucking does
Just because you say it doesn’t doesn’t make that true.

2) I don’t have to ask. I can read. However if Gamma wishes to chime in I am sure he would back me up on it because it is reality that you vetoed everything I said and were a stick in the mud on Theta

1) What?

2) Yeah, I was stubborn about Theta. What's your point? I still didn't veto RC, but keep thinking that.

[Brian Skies]

Ank is still scummy.

[Brian Skies]

Anyhow, we can always just lynch RC tonight, and I'm getting tired of stopping a lynch on a claimed not-town.

[Brian Skies]

My mind is melting right now.

[Brian Skies]

Not really, I just think everything is jumbled and makes little sense.

[Brian Skies]

I still think hebi, Vecna, and Nos are town and won't vote any of those. I'm mostly still ignoring HWS by proxy. Also still ignoring AA9 (whose posts I still refuse to read through and what little I have glanced at don't seem scummy anyway).

I'm still not lynching Oath in the absence of a wolf kill or really

anything else that could have stopped a kill

.

I don't believe Ankamius' soulread on Math and it still smells like bs. I will throw as much shade as necessary until this slot does something I think is actually townish. Also still lol'ing at her issue with massclaiming this game.

Projectmatt was widely scumread.
TheGoldenParadox, iirc, was pretty widely scumread.
Theta Alpine was widely scumread. All three were town.

Now?

Most of the playerlist is split on Oath and Mathblade is widely scumread. There's no strong defense of Math, similarly to the other slots that I mentioned before.

This shit is so obvious yet either town has already gone so far down the rabbit hole or scum have been stirring shit up way too hard for people to actually scum hunt instead of pissing the game away on setup nonsense that doesn't matter.

This post in and of itself is pretty nonsensical. Just because other players were widely scumread and flipped town doesn't make x-player that is widely scumread also town. It just means people think he's scummy. It's a fallacy and Ank needs to actually provide reasons for independently reading Math one way or another. Math also scumread all three of these (although I can't find evidence of Math scumreading TGP from a brief search outside of him just saying so), so ??? Also, his push on me today and insistence that I have to be scum for driving a lynch on a

mutual scumread

was awful. I also do think the lack of a wolfkill COULD indicate Math scum since he really wanted to lynch Oath last night and, ONCE AGAIN, there is no wolfkill today.

Like, if Ank is a mason with Math, then she should just claim so. It would make this game so much easier.

Normally I can bridge the gap between Titus' weird strains of logic, but I can't do this for the ones she has here. I still don't understand why she thought Math-scum -> Oath scum. I also still don't understand why she thinks her result incriminates Muffin, unless she has something that actually incriminates him and in which case we can just lynch him. I also don't see how wolves can't have investigative roles, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

I would lynch Creature.

Okay, I think we should do Oath because of his 1-shot BP

VOTE: Oath

Literally don't understand why Oath having a 1-Shot BP should even be a concern.

I should have more thoughts on Muffin, but really Cheeky and Muffin both opened Day 2 with a townread on Vecna, but neither did it in an obvious crumbing sort of way so I'm just not sure. The investigation check on Theta doesn't look great for him, but he was scumreading Theta yesterday so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. I wouldn't stand in the way of his lynch, but it's not my preferred lynch by any means.

I have a lot of thoughts on the setup but I won't share them unless we do a massclaim (or certain people flip certain things).

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, but even bad players can hit a bullseye if they throw enough darts.

Also, Creature claimed Suicide Bomber on Muffin.

[Brian Skies]

If town are so bad that their reads are almost all terrible, then scum don't need to do more than sheep

I don't care about baseless theories.

[Brian Skies]

Weren't you already voting me?

[Brian Skies]

I'm so scared.

[Brian Skies]

I probably forgot. It's been a while since I last looked at this game.

Why did you claim then?

[Brian Skies]

I never insinuated such a thing.

It's just that Cheeky did something similar and that gives me pause (mostly because it's Cheeky).

Also, would have liked giant neon lights from either of you.

[Brian Skies]

VOTE: Creature

[Brian Skies]

Jesus Christ

Can we not just start this shit with only three people weighing in on it

Also would probably have had a massclaim if not for this.

[Brian Skies]

Just saying.

[Brian Skies]

Actually, no. I'm definitely mentioning that to shade Ank some more.

[Brian Skies]

Yeah I'm not feeling Vecna scum based on activity. I also don't see scum asking to massclaim D2 lol although I think we can hold off for another day to see how tonight goes.

Like, this doesn't really seem like a crumb.

[Brian Skies]

"based on activity" That's pretty NAI though?

Like town cause they post a lot is shit.

I find activity can be AI for some players. And I mean it in the broader sense of how engaged he is with the game, I can't really go further into this explanation right now but I'm not voting vecna.

What is it that you're seeing?

Oh, wait, no. I take that back.

I just needed to read the next post.

[Brian Skies]

Yes, because your lone naked vote really does

so

much.

Or maybe you just ran out of fake analysis to contribute.

[Brian Skies]

He retracted ffs

I was responding to an inquiry by Nos.

[Brian Skies]

Can we have confirmation that Brian Skies specifically argued against a kill on both the Oath and RC slots?

I argued against the Oath lynch. I guess one could argue that I argued against the RC kill, although I mostly just pushed for a Theta lynch.

Also, whatever angle you're trying to push with the <Brian, Vecna, Titus> scumteam is hilariously bad, but I can't say that it's unexpected coming from

you

. If you think Muffin is unlikely scum, then your Vecna scumread makes no sense at all since the idea of a wolf being immune to not one, but TWO 'prob-not-wolf' roles, according to you, is unlikely and just feels like a made up read.

[Brian Skies]

HWS needs to be prodded, and really, the 'townblock' (and Tor) need to start doing stuff since I'm getting pretty bored of the same circle jerk that's been going on since this day's started.

[Brian Skies]

or only mildly incorrect

I guess I can see Titus being scum, but that's about it.

[Brian Skies]

@Mod: Toranaga replaced in over 3 days ago. Can we get a prod or something?

<<< Yes. He was due for one earlier; I delivered one once I was able to. >>>

[Brian Skies]

Almost50

Ankamius

Luna Nova

projectmatt

TheGoldenParadox

Theta Alpine

Oath

Brian Skies

Titus

Vecna

Creature - Most Likely Scum (out of this list anyways)
HeWhoSwims - Wildcard, but not likely scum
Gamma Emerald - Potentially Scum
hebichan - Unlikely scum
MathBlade - Unlikely scum
Nosferatu - Not Scum
Toranaga - Wildcard
zMuffinMan - Unlikely Scum

I'm also lol'ing at your hilarious lack of townreads.

[Brian Skies]

Definitely not a townread, that's for sure.

[Brian Skies]

(Hint: Vampires are probably not the only 3p)

[Brian Skies]

Cool

So you understand why I would say "Unlikely Scum" rather than "Likely Town" then?

Nope. You're just hedging.

[Brian Skies]

Says you.

[Brian Skies]

Vecna

hebichan - Unlikely scum
zMuffinMan - Unlikely Scum

[Brian Skies]

Hey guys!
Apologies for the shitty modding, but that should be changing once I sort out the replacements!

We have the necessary number of players offering to replace into the slots that need replacements, it's just a matter of me doing my number/fact/policy-checking to confirm which players should be receiving which slots' roles.

Flavor?

Flavor will be placed here if mastina has the capacity to give it. No promises!

Votecount 2-22 (62) Simple

Theta Alpine - 5 (hebichan, zMuffinMan, Nosferatu, projectmatt, ArcAngel9)

MathBlade - 2 (NicoRobin, RadiantCowbells)

projectmatt - 2 (MathBlade, Gamma Emerald)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)
NicoRobin - 1 (Theta Alpine)
Gamma Emerald - 1 (Keychain)
hebichan - 1 (Ankamius)
zMuffinMan - 1 (Creature)

Not Voting - 1 (Vecna)

Mod Notes

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Seeking a Keychain replacement.
  
• Seeking a RadiantCowbells replacement.
  
• projectmatt is V/LA for a few days.
  
• NicoRobin failed to produce content in the time allotted, and will be replaced.
  
• mastina will generate a more advanced votecount if she has the capacity to give it. No promises!

<<< Oath replaces Keychain effective immediately.
Titus replaces RadiantCowbells effective immediately. >>>

this is like obvtown status

Also the fact that this literally says nothing.

[Brian Skies]

But hey, I'm the one speaking nonsense, right?

[Brian Skies]

What's stopping you from voting Creature, anyway?

[Brian Skies]

Then start thinking about what scum want to do.

If it doesn't smack you in the face why Oath claiming what he did is a mind numbingly dumb mafia play after that, then I don't know what to tell you.

If you've been reading my posts, you wouldn't be saying this to me.

[Brian Skies]

Lolololololol.

[Brian Skies]

Then you should see why that vote count strongly indicates Oath is town?

Spell it out for me.

[Brian Skies]

Because all I see is a wagon on Theta and two replacements.

[Brian Skies]

Idk Ank. I don't speak dipshit.

[Brian Skies]

You can try. It's never going to happen.

[Brian Skies]

Like, the literal argument you have against me is that I don't see how Oath can be town...which isn't even true since I've been arguing against an Oath lynch all day.

And yet, here you are, presenting some half-baked moonlogic as some reason to obvtown Oath, when there's literally no premise, or even an argument, to be had from your posts.

[Brian Skies]

No, spell it out for me.

[Brian Skies]

Stop being lazy.

[Brian Skies]

First of all, scum don't generally vote together like that, which should tip you off right away that I'm probably no scum with RC (who I've also been trying to lynch at various points today and would've compromised on yesterday if I didn't get Theta).

Secondly, there's zero indication to assume that <me, RC-slot, Vecna> are a scumteam together unless you're just randomly picking out names from the VC.

[Brian Skies]

Also, Oath claimed partly to wagon/lynch Math/Creature.

And there is still NOTHING in that post to indicate why you think Oath is obvtown.

[Brian Skies]

I can't be assed to explain the bullshit I've been spouting for the last several days or so. So I'm just going to pretend that there's some secret mystery to be ordained from this that only I, the great Ankamius, can divine.

[Brian Skies]

Also, you're wrong anyway since I'm not a wolf.

And you're not even explaining what's been asked (which is how that VC indicates Obvtown Oath; as though Oath wasn't already most likely town just based on her claiming to protect Theta who flipped town).

[Brian Skies]

I'm going to dodge the question since it's all bullshit anyway.

[Brian Skies]

You're a troll.

[Brian Skies]

There is nothing in that post that even indicates that was your argument.

[Brian Skies]

No, you're just an awful.

You literally quotes a VC and Oath replacing in, and just assumed people would be like 'ah, yes, Oath is probably town' despite Oath having ZERO equity in the gamestate at that point.

[Brian Skies]

Stop acting like you gave us some amazing in sight when I literally said it here:

But why does Oath-scum claim 'not town' unprompted?

You could argue that it was to derail the Theta lynch, but Theta flipped town, so...?

[Brian Skies]

Hey guys!
Apologies for the shitty modding, but that should be changing once I sort out the replacements!

We have the necessary number of players offering to replace into the slots that need replacements, it's just a matter of me doing my number/fact/policy-checking to confirm which players should be receiving which slots' roles.

Flavor?

Flavor will be placed here if mastina has the capacity to give it. No promises!

Votecount 2-22 (62) Simple

Theta Alpine - 5 (hebichan, zMuffinMan, Nosferatu, projectmatt, ArcAngel9)

MathBlade - 2 (NicoRobin, RadiantCowbells)

projectmatt - 2 (MathBlade, Gamma Emerald)
Keychain - 1 (HeWhoSwims)
NicoRobin - 1 (Theta Alpine)
Gamma Emerald - 1 (Keychain)
hebichan - 1 (Ankamius)
zMuffinMan - 1 (Creature)

Not Voting - 1 (Vecna)

Mod Notes

• mastina, the moderator, is V/LA over weekends.
  
• Seeking a Keychain replacement.
  
• Seeking a RadiantCowbells replacement.
  
• projectmatt is V/LA for a few days.
  
• NicoRobin failed to produce content in the time allotted, and will be replaced.
  
• mastina will generate a more advanced votecount if she has the capacity to give it. No promises!

<<< Oath replaces Keychain effective immediately.
Titus replaces RadiantCowbells effective immediately. >>>

this is like obvtown status

TELL ME ANK!

WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU QUOTING HERE?

BECAUSE TO ME ALL WE HAVE IS A VOTECOUNT WITH THETA AS THE LEADING WAGON

AND OATH REPLACING IN

SO WHAT EQUITY DOES OATH HAVE HERE?

[Brian Skies]

Yeah, you're a fucking dipshit.

Since all you have to do is quote Oath's post where she claimed and Theta's flip.

Stop acting like your bullshit post means anything.

[Brian Skies]

and what Oath replacing in right afterwards indicates

Also, this doesn't even mean anything since Keychain had been gone for over a week.

[Brian Skies]

I actually asked to be replaced last night, so you can all save Mastina the hassle and lynch me.