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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:13 am

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Day 11


You killed the killah
Was he a villah?

No. He was town.
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:17 am

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Hold off the killings!!!

I just arrived, it's Day 11, and worse, the thread was locked!

There are only a few pages, but please give me a couple of hours to analyze what we've got, which is precious little.

Put your guns down, cow boys.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:24 am

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After 24 hours I'm wasting someone who hasn't killed yet (or next time I'm able to kill). Just putting that out there.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:48 am

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I just finished analyzing up to page 2, I'm halfway done.

But I had to check if I was still alive! If not I'd really be wasting my time.

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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:51 am

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Twomz wrote:After 24 hours I'm wasting someone who hasn't killed yet (or next time I'm able to kill). Just putting that out there.
What's the rationale for doing that? I understand that one point being made is that scum might want to hold their kill for later. However, this is the reasoning that has filled our cemetary with townies, and left us almost no evidence to aim at scum. It seems that all that is being done is random shooting of townies. No?
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:53 am

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I think there's no rationale here.

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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 9:58 am

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Beep! Beep! wrote:
Twomz wrote:After 24 hours I'm wasting someone who hasn't killed yet (or next time I'm able to kill). Just putting that out there.
What's the rationale for doing that? I understand that one point being made is that scum might want to hold their kill for later. However, this is the reasoning that has filled our cemetary with townies, and left us almost no evidence to aim at scum. It seems that all that is being done is random shooting of townies. No?
I'm still going to pay attention and make the right plays and stuff, but honestly I've kind of written this game off a little.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:27 am

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I'm telling that this town is heading for a hammering.

I am, obviously town Andy.
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:28 am

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Andycyca wrote:I think there's no rationale here.

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ARGH!!! Couldn't you wait FIVE minutes??? Random is NOT helping.

My analysis is ready to post, but I'll wait for the Mod to reveal SirT's alignment before posting it.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:29 am

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Also, Twomz's plan of killing off all people who haven't killed yet is idiotic. It is the mafia who have pre-emptive kills, so, it would be in their best interests to make sure every townie has killed atleast once.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:30 am

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I am town Beep! Beep! Carry on with your analysis.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:30 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:I am, obviously town.
How on earth are we supposed to know a player is scum or town... I guess no one is taking the game seriously at all.

That should be the take home message of my analysis...

Not that I have much material to work with.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:30 am

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Sir Tornado wrote:Also, Twomz's plan of killing off all people who haven't killed yet is idiotic. It is the mafia who have pre-emptive kills, so, it would be in their best interests to make sure every townie has killed atleast once.
How exactly does this work? I read it quickly, and I don't quite get it.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:32 am

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Beep! Beep! wrote: How on earth are we supposed to know a player is scum or town... I guess no one is taking the game seriously at all.
Well, if you notice, Andy agreed with my comments about people being too trigger happy. And then Twomz says we scum are likely to not kill, and guess what? Andy himself becomes trigger happy.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:40 am

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Day 12


With the game more than half-way over, I'm done with death poems. I'm going to start telling the real stories.

Andycyca sneaks up on SirTornado. Suspicious of his use of reason, Andycyca guns his chainsaw. You all stop in your tracks, staring in absolute horror as he raises the rusting, shrieking machine. You gasp together as the whirling blades slice through SirTonado's skull. In a swarm of brain tissue and fluid, SirTornado's head positively explodes over everyone. The blades stop right above his mouth, and you hear a stifled, unintelegible moan; SirTornado's last breath.

Covered in his muck, a brave soul among you gathers his composure, and searches through SirTornado's belongings. He exclaims, "He has a gun that hasn't been shot yet! He must be mafia, right!?"

I respond "No, idiot. Everyone can kill in this game. He was just a townie, trying to find the scum. I suggest you all do so, before it is too late..."
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 10:46 am

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CMON GUYS, WE CAN HAVE THE FIRST DAY-LONG GAME.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:00 am

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Primate wrote:CMON GUYS, WE CAN HAVE THE FIRST DAY-LONG GAME.
Amen.

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ooba*
Primate*
Mike O' Malley*
Andycyca*
creampuffeater*
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Korlash (by Jester, no reason)
PokerFace (by Cephrir, no reason)
Battle Mage (by Battle Mage, no reason)
Kinetic (by Mike O'Malley, no reason)
Cephrir - mafia (by Tarhalindur, for shooting down PokerFace)
The Jester (by Killah Nine, for being "over-defensive)
Simenon (by CPE, claiming he believes that Simenon is town!!!
TheStranger (by Primate, can't find reason)
Tarhalindur (by ooba, believing Tahalindur might have bused his buddy)
Killah Nine (by Twomz, urged by Tarhalindur the "day" before)
Sir Tornado (by Andycyca, claiming that there is no rationale here)

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The Jester (town) asks a question about Mafia pre-kills.
TheStranger (town) believes scum might reserve their kills for later.
Simenon (town) looks forward to Primate "solving the game".
Killah Nine (town) wishes people would give reasons before shooting.
Twomz shocked that it's Day 7 within a few hours. Suggests that the randomness stops.
Tarhalindur (town), having used his kill on a scum, wants someone else to shoot down Killah Nine. Reason: "he killed only after being told that mafia could daykill as well"
Primate arrives (too late to fulfill Simenon's wishes, haha) and asks why CPE did that. Then shoots TheStranger.
Primate makes an intelligent comment: "No-one who's already killed should kill again until everyones at * (this should really go without saying, but I'm going to say it anyway)."
Primate suggests we stop killing for a while.
SirTornado asks CPE why he killed a player he himself thought was town. Good question...
After killing Killah Nine for no reason other than at Tarhalindur's urging, says: " it would be a good idea to start getting rid of people who post but don't kill." Great, that we we can continue with random shootings.
After Andycyca's senseless kill, Primate states that he's written off the game to some extent.

I was in the middle of writing this post when Andycyca shot down SirTornado.
We have zero information from the Cephrir scumkill, tragically.

I have but a few anemic conclusions.

Primate weakly pro-town for at least trying.
Ooba - could go either way after lynching Tarhalindur on suspicion of busing Cephrir.
Mike O'Malley - no read beyond using his kill early.
Twomz - leans scum for encouraging players to shoot pretty much at random, leading the town to a humiliating loss.
Andycyca - leans scum for agreeing with SirT about people shooting without thinking, then becoming trigger happy after Twomz's comment.
creampuffeater - leans scum for shooting a player he believed to be town!!!
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:04 am

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creampuffeater - leans scum for shooting a player he believed to be town!!!
You think he'd be that blatant about it?

PS: Beep, you need to kill next, you do realise this, yes? I'm certainly not rushing you or anything, just pointing it out.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:13 am

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Primate wrote:PS: Beep, you need to kill next, you do realise this, yes? I'm certainly not rushing you or anything, just pointing it out.
Why is that? I don't totally understand the reasoning behind this. Should I hurry before someone shoots me down???
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:17 am

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Primate wrote:PS: Beep, you need to kill next, you do realise this, yes? I'm certainly not rushing you or anything, just pointing it out.
Why is that? I don't totally understand the reasoning behind this. Should I hurry before someone shoots me down???
You're the only live player without a 24 hour delay. This is obviously for our benefit, not yours, but I'm sure you understand.

PS: I just quickly skimmed the living players again and the one read I kind of like is a 'slightly town' on Twomz.
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:23 am

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Primate wrote:You're the only live player without a 24 hour delay. This is obviously for our benefit, not yours, but I'm sure you understand.

PS: I just quickly skimmed the living players again and the one read I kind of like is a 'slightly town' on Twomz.
I'm the only one with ammo?

(1) How will it benefit anyone for me to make an uneducated kill?
(2) I know there's pretty much no information here, but what is it about Twomz that you find town, Primate? I tend to find him scum. By a tiny margin, from the interpretation of a single sentence.
(3) What are the consequences of my waiting like 12 hours to kill or something, so that we have have some discussion at last?
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:33 am

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Beep! Beep! wrote:
Primate wrote:You're the only live player without a 24 hour delay. This is obviously for our benefit, not yours, but I'm sure you understand.

PS: I just quickly skimmed the living players again and the one read I kind of like is a 'slightly town' on Twomz.
I'm the only one with ammo?

(1) How will it benefit anyone for me to make an uneducated kill?
(2) I know there's pretty much no information here, but what is it about Twomz that you find town, Primate? I tend to find him scum. By a tiny margin, from the interpretation of a single sentence.
(3) What are the consequences of my waiting like 12 hours to kill or something, so that we have have some discussion at last?
1)It doesn't benefit anyone for you to make an uneducated kill. Take two weeks if you want. But, when someone does actually kill, I'm pretty sure it should be you, otherwise we're a day further into danger, with you able to autokill before anyone else, if you get me.
2) I feel a Twomz that comes out with a dumb plan during the game is a more town than a scum Twomz, who I feel wouldn't bother coming out with a plan at all, he'd just play traditionally.
3) None at all. You risk one of the other townies shooting their load early, but they'd have to be stupid to do that.
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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:35 am

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I'm not calling you scum or anything, but I don't trust implicitly you based on four posts of read when the consequences of doing so are so inconsequential and the downside fairly sizable.
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Post Post #98 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:35 am

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Primate wrote:I'm not calling you scum or anything, but I don't trust implicitly you based on four
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of read when the consequences of doing so are so inconsequential and the downside fairly sizable.
Corrected.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon Feb 25, 2008 11:47 am

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Primate wrote:1)It doesn't benefit anyone for you to make an uneducated kill. Take two weeks if you want. But, when someone does actually kill, I'm pretty sure it should be you, otherwise we're a day further into danger, with you able to autokill before anyone else, if you get me.
2) I feel a Twomz that comes out with a dumb plan during the game is a more town than a scum Twomz, who I feel wouldn't bother coming out with a plan at all, he'd just play traditionally.
3) None at all. You risk one of the other townies shooting their load early, but they'd have to be stupid to do that.
(1) I don't get the mechanics behind this: "when someone does actually kill, I'm pretty sure it should be you, otherwise we're a day further into danger, with you able to autokill before anyone else, if you get me." - there has got to be some aspect of the game that I don't understand.
(2) So your assessment of Twomz is about as solid as mine! ;-)
(3) I certainly would like to wait a few hours.
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