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Post Post #200 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 2:59 pm

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In post 198, 123456789 wrote:Please don't forget that proposals 337, 340, 341, 342, 343, and 344 are still active. Unless you have a reason not to, make sure you are voting! (Don't just pocket-veto the proposals by letting them expire!)

Also, spending two points to gain two watermelons.

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I'm waiting on the results of previous proposals.
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Post Post #201 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:00 pm

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The light bulb market in the front page lists 2 investors, but states there is only one.
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Post Post #202 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:04 pm

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Everything is up to date except for that one error you pointed out. The list is correct.
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Post Post #203 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 3:57 pm

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In post 195, 123456789 wrote:
In post 191, skitter30 wrote:HEAL: 342
HEAL: 344

If I have any lightbulbs I'd like to invest in the lightbulb market.

I feel like vegetables and fruits and two distinct categories, and as such, if a lemon is a vegetable it is implied it is not a fruit because it cant be both.
The thing is, in Nomic, you can say whatever you like about a thing. For instance, we currently have a rule that bees are equivalent to Watermelons. Obviously, such a rule is preposterous in real life.

Thus, in Nomic, most things have to be explicit, and this is one of those things.
How pedantic can I get? Cuz then I would object to the notion that 'watermelons', 'lemons', 'oranges', and 'raspberries' are classified as fruit to begin with given that there is no rule stating such; the only thing proposed either way is that lemons should be classified as vegetables and that lightbulbs are not fruit.

Proposal 346: Objects do not inherently belong to any given food category; a rule must be passed to designate an object as belonging to a specific food category. Objects can only belong to one food category at a time.

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Post Post #204 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:10 pm

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I mean, I guess it is kind of a gray area with different possible interpretations. In the case of "watermelons", "lemons", "oranges", and "raspberries" being classified as fruit, I think that's valid because it is the natural way of classifying them if you understand what I mean. Perhaps it would have been better for me to state that things that differ from normal interpretations must be explicit.

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Proposal 347: Watermelons, oranges, apples, raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, and grapes are categorized as "Fruits".

HEAL: 347

I'll update tomorrow at some time.
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Post Post #205 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:17 pm

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Eh, fair enough :)

Proposal 348 (edit to 343? whichever is easier/the right way of doing this): Lemons are categorized as 'vegetables'.


abstain on 347 - I object to watermelons being classified as fruits given that they're bees. If you remove watermelons I'll vote it.

(these are words I never thought I'd be typing lol)

actually now that I think about it I don't know how 344 and 346 interact with each other

Am I allowed to change a vote I made previously?
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Post Post #206 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:22 pm

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In post 205, skitter30 wrote:Eh, fair enough :)

Proposal 348 (edit to 343? whichever is easier/the right way of doing this): Lemons are categorized as 'vegetables'.


abstain on 347 - I object to watermelons being classified as fruits given that they're bees. If you remove watermelons I'll vote it.

(these are words I never thought I'd be typing lol)

actually now that I think about it I don't know how 344 and 346 interact with each other

Am I allowed to change a vote I made previously?
Yes, you can change votes as long as the proposal hasn’t passed/rejected/expired yet. Just record.

I’ll accept 348 as a new proposal. You can self reject 343 if you like.
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Post Post #207 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:23 pm

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In post 204, 123456789 wrote:I mean, I guess it is kind of a gray area with different possible interpretations. In the case of "watermelons", "lemons", "oranges", and "raspberries" being classified as fruit, I think that's valid because it is the natural way of classifying them if you understand what I mean. Perhaps it would have been better for me to state that things that differ from normal interpretations must be explicit.

HEAL: 346

Proposal 347: Oranges, apples, raspberries, blueberries, blackberries, and grapes are categorized as "Fruits".

HEAL: 347

I'll update tomorrow at some time.
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Post Post #208 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:31 pm

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OK:

self-reject given later discussion: 343
HURT: 344
HURT: 345
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HEAL: 347
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Post Post #209 (ISO) » Thu Jun 21, 2018 4:55 pm

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self reject 345
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Post Post #210 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:47 am

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Invest lightbulbs.

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Post Post #211 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 2:35 pm

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I apologize but I'm gonna update this tomorrow.
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Post Post #212 (ISO) » Fri Jun 22, 2018 4:56 pm

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/out
I’ve had my fun but this is gonna start to take up too much of my time now that there’s a way to win

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Post Post #213 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:56 am

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VOTE: Yes 345
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Post Post #214 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:00 am

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Oh, and also VOTE: Yes 346, 347, and 348.
Proposal 349: Create a new rule that states "Watermelons are not bees, and they are fruits."
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Post Post #215 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:02 am

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349 FYI would have no effect.
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Post Post #216 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 5:34 am

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Proposal 350: Edit Rule 211 such that rules with higher ordinal numbers take precedence over rules with lower ordinal numbers.
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Post Post #217 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 6:43 am

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HURT: 350
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Post Post #218 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 11:54 am

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Not that it really matters. I mean, we can always just write the rules to specifically override the past rules.
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Post Post #219 (ISO) » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:54 pm

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You can’t vote neutral and the proper way to do it is by amending rules. Precedence is a really important thing to have; in fact, it ought to be transmuted to an immutable law as it is that important.

I was gonna update this today, but I didn’t realize I was going out in the evening so tomorrow for sure.
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Post Post #220 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 3:10 am

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In post 219, 123456789 wrote:You can’t vote neutral and the proper way to do it is by amending rules. Precedence is a really important thing to have; in fact, it ought to be transmuted to an immutable law as it is that important.

I was gonna update this today, but I didn’t realize I was going out in the evening so tomorrow for sure.
Proposal 351: Make rule 211 immutable

I mean, if the group likes your idea, then let it be. I do not care either way.
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Post Post #221 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:02 am

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HURT: 349
HURT: 350

I have to go see what 211 is
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Post Post #222 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 7:03 am

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I'm ambivalent on 351
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Post Post #223 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:13 am

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Post Post #224 (ISO) » Sun Jun 24, 2018 8:22 am

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HEAL: 348

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