Open 737: Stack the Deck (Game Over)

[Enigma]

teehee

[Almost50]

Whoever casts the third vote on Sky gets a free pass from me for the rest of the day!

[Enigma]

Hey guys I'm traitor no shoot pls

VOTE: Almost50

I would be so upset if later this we find out that you weren't joking with this lol

[ruru]

Suppose you're a scum at L1 and you have to decide what to claim, you have information that town will probably believe n+1 PRs existing, so you claim PR

[skitter30]

@vex:

the qualifier was 'at this stage of the game' - it's helping us transition out of rvs so i'm fine with it for now; i wouldn't want to revert back to this discussion in several irl days after we've had legit wagons or something

for now it's fine since it's helping us get to the interesting things

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also i'm getting early scumpings from ruru

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@a50 why wagon sky?

[Vex Vience]

also enigma are u just generally against alts?
im getting that feeling from u

Nah doesn't bother me so much, meta only takes you so far when scumhunting

dont like meta arguements
thats why i made an alt

I think it's like actively antitown because it informs scum's decision of what to claim

Whilst I don't think its super productive, agree with Vex its fine to boot us out of RVS. I wouldn't say its helping scum unless people are literally softclaiming their TPRs, in which case helping scum CC is the least of our worries...

i agree on this
its not helping scum bc no one is softclaiming their prs
im still also waiting on what else we could be discussing

Whoever casts the third vote on Sky gets a free pass from me for the rest of the day!

where r u going with this?

Suppose you're a scum at L1 and you have to decide what to claim, you have information that town will probably believe n+1 PRs existing, so you claim PR

yes but what else is there to discuss rn is my point
ids the spec on what scum took hurting us
it got us out of rvs (which was sorta my purpose) and got discussion going
whats wrong with trying to get early discussion going?

@vex:

the qualifier was 'at this stage of the game' - it's helping us transition out of rvs so i'm fine with it for now; i wouldn't want to revert back to this discussion in several irl days after we've had legit wagons or something

for now it's fine since it's helping us get to the interesting things

duh im not planning on saying in like 3 irl days from now "what mods do u guys think scum took?"
rather get it done now bc that was the spec i did while waiting for scum to pick mods and to get my final rc

[Enigma]

Suppose you're a scum at L1 and you have to decide what to claim, you have information that town will probably believe n+1 PRs existing, so you claim PR

Why wouldn't scum just fake claim regardless of our discussion, claiming VT doesn't really help them out at L-1 anyways so at least could just take their chances with a CC bait or potentially get away with it?

[Skygazer]

creature's lurking through this, meta says he's obvscum, come on guys lets wagon this

[Skygazer]

srry for shitposting i have to go to class now ill be back late tonight

[Antihero]

hi

[Vex Vience]

Suppose you're a scum at L1 and you have to decide what to claim, you have information that town will probably believe n+1 PRs existing, so you claim PR

Why wouldn't scum just fake claim regardless of our discussion, claiming VT doesn't really help them out at L-1 anyways so at least could just take their chances with a CC bait or potentially get away with it?

i do agree with this:
theres three ways this could go for scum if they claim pr:
1) they get hung with no cc, we get it confirmed that whatever they claimed isnt in the game
2) no one ccs, they get off free
3) someone ccs, they get hung, cc'er gets nk'd

better question here is why wouldnt scum claim pr on stand?

creature's lurking through this, meta says he's obvscum, come on guys lets wagon this

ladies first

[Vex Vience]

Hey guys I'm traitor no shoot pls

VOTE: Almost50

I would be so upset if later this we find out that you weren't joking with this lol

idt scum would be

that

stupid to openly claim traitor

[ruru]

If scum really claimed pr every time then town could just confirm themselves by claiming vt

[Vex Vience]

If scum really claimed pr every time then town could just confirm themselves by claiming vt

hm interesting idea
but what makes you think that all 3 scum would claim pr on stand when at least one would get instantly cc'd?
ig as well that my question assumes all scum claim pr too

[Skygazer]

Guys you know how hypo innos are a thing?

Why don't we do hypo scum teams? If I'm the traitor then my partners are ruru and A50 pls dont crosskill me guys

[Enigma]

If scum really claimed pr every time then town could just confirm themselves by claiming vt

Hypothetically yes, but unfortunately town has a tendency to lynch VTs claims and let TPRs get off...
Another thing is that there is very little defence once a TPR is outed in this set up. No docs, watchers, JKs, etc. Bodyguard is less than ideal - i.e. very little to discourage scum NKing TPRs if they CC.

[ruru]

[Almost50]

@a50 why wagon sky?

Because it's fun.
And also bc it's good for the game.
Well, it's as good as any other wagon really, but my vote is already there and so is ruru's, so if you want to be our third I'd be obliged. (It's still be L-4 you know, and N_M isn't even in this game if it makes you feel any better)

[Enigma]

@a50 why wagon sky?

Because it's fun.
And also bc it's good for the game.
Well, it's as good as any other wagon really, but my vote is already there and so is ruru's, so if you want to be our third I'd be obliged. (It's still be L-4 you know, and N_M isn't even in this game if it makes you feel any better)

Someone should replace out so NM can replace in so we can lynch him

[Vex Vience]

Guys you know how hypo innos are a thing?

Why don't we do hypo scum teams? If I'm the traitor then my partners are ruru and A50 pls dont crosskill me guys

wdym?

If scum really claimed pr every time then town could just confirm themselves by claiming vt

Hypothetically yes, but unfortunately town has a tendency to lynch VTs claims and let TPRs get off...
Another thing is that there is very little defence once a TPR is outed in this set up. No docs, watchers, JKs, etc. Bodyguard is less than ideal - i.e. very little to discourage scum NKing TPRs if they CC.

yea that was something i was thinking about when specing
once a tpr gets outed, theyre dead which would discourage scum from claiming pr right?
if im scum and a tpr outs themselves im killing them 100% of the time which means that if someone outs themselves as a tpr why wouldnt scum kill them unless they were scum all along?
which ik that brings up the entire "what if they decide not to kill them to try to frame them as scum" argument but for simplicity rn, lets ignore it
we can always discuss it later

@a50 why wagon sky?

Because it's fun.
And also bc it's good for the game.
Well, it's as good as any other wagon really, but my vote is already there and so is ruru's, so if you want to be our third I'd be obliged. (It's still be L-4 you know, and N_M isn't even in this game if it makes you feel any better)

how is wagoning sky good for the game?

[HeWhoSwims]

It takes us away from RVS and generates pressure!

Vex feels townish so far even though it looks like some sort of newbtown enthusiasm. Eh. He's contributing much which is enough for the day.

And with that... I should probably go to sleep before trying to judge all the other posts. Tired af.

[Almost50]

where r u going with this?

Straight to the oval office, I guess!

[Antihero]

im assuming that creature just gets obvtowned early on?

yeah if creature doesn't fall into lurkerdom, he's town so kind of a waste of IC but thems the breaks

i like ruru's entrance

a50's not so much

VOTE: a50

[Antihero]

= I'd feel like I'd be more forgiving to newbies who don't really put forward reads or play unconventionally, while I'd expect less so from experienced players, but that's me

...we're gonna fight...

[Vex Vience]

currently am hesitant on liking a50