In post 581, Irrelephant11 wrote:But why would mafia shoot someone so widely scumread? Others have pointed out that his role would die if he targeted informed roles
wait it would?
no I was wrong
In post 593, RCEnigma wrote:Looking at it now there are probably more alignments that could potentially kill or cause a fail when targeted. I wasnt thinking out of the box there.
Quick question. If Inquisitor doesn't die on mis-cult does that mean his recruit went through? Are we still dealing with a cult situation?
This is why I asked why you went straight to cult - his role PM doesn't even have the word "cult", and he only recruited on a failed kill... Now I'm paranoid that you're cult
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 5:53 am
by RCEnigma
It functions as a cult. It's third party that doesn't have a killing power. Is that not considered cult here?
I guess you guys expected the Spanish Inquisition... Damn...
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I didnt see that before. I assumed it was just a recruit type ability.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:12 am
by RCEnigma
So to get things straight, Doc has a killing power that recruits if his kill fails but does not kill him when he targets non-town alignments?
Meaning someone survived the kill or he targeted non town AND was targeted by mafia.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:20 am
by Irrelephant11
I mean he was certainly night killed by a role other than his own. It could literally be a ton of different kinds of roles but yes.
There's been a few times this game where it feels like most of the playerlist is unaware of the ridiculous possibilities in GIM...
But yeah, whoever he shot somehow survived.
I wonder if there's utility in massclaim at any point in a game with a Super Vanilla Townie
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:24 am
by RCEnigma
UNVOTE: Vaxkiller
I hate to say but unless the only world I see Vax as scum in is if the team is exactly Vax/Aero. Considering who Doc would have targeted in the night. And if that is the case then we could be in Mylo with an inquisitor between nonny/irrelephant/invis since there was only one kill in the night. Then Nonny probably would have hammered Vax already. So one between irrelephant/invis?
I think that's less likely than Doc hitting mafia in the night and that still leaves the same poe fmpov of at least one mafia in irrelephant/invis/nonny with nonny not hammering.
Sorry I'm jotting all this down on the fly I've got cable coming over any minute and I'm rushing but this is making my head spin atm.
If any of that isn't possible please point out the holes in my theories.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:27 am
by RCEnigma
Yeah but a VT wouldn't survive the inquisitor kill....VT is in play.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:45 am
by Irrelephant11
idk what you're saying in 609
Who would Doc have targeted in the night?
Also his kill only fails on bulletproofs/doctors etc, not on informed groups
His
recruit
, which happens on a failed kill, fails on informed groups
So yeah I think you're still misunderstanding the role but I'll UNVOTE: to have time to figure it out
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 6:48 am
by Irrelephant11
It's also possible both the kill and the recruit failed, like if he tried to shoot a bulletproof cultist
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:38 am
by RCEnigma
OK that makes more sense, I'm all over the place. Super VT is in play so he did not target a vanilla town, since there would have been a kill.
Meaning he hit a third party role or scum and both his kill/recruit failed. There's also the possibility of a roleblocker though.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 7:42 am
by RCEnigma
I've given my thoughts on who I think doc would have targeted. At least that's what makes sense to me. I think Invis' idea of sk makes sense unless scum has a roleblocker? Not sure if roleblocking SK makes SK target roleblocker here. If that's what scum were picking up on.
Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:18 am
by nonny
RB I don’t see becuaee why would scum RB someone they are killing. Or would the SK night action go through even if NK?
I think RCE's reasoning for DrD shooting at one of me/you/nonny makes some sense
DrD's kill didn't go through which means he may have successfully recruited someone
It wasn't me, and you're playing just like the last game day while nonny is noticeably quieter
that leaves nonny to be on the inquisitor team now - idk how she survived the kill but there's 101 options as to how, so
Even if she didn't get recruited I think that just points to her being on a scumteam of some kind
Also a smaller but significant reason is I'm curious what will happen if I sheep Aero
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:41 am
by Invisibility
too bad im never saying it
jk it was post 614
my pet inquis read was aero but that was 100% confbias
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:44 am
by Irrelephant11
I mean I didn't love 614 but mostly because it was a confusing set of hypotheticals
Do you still want a vax lynch? Also what do you think of RCE's recent fear that we're in lylo?
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 9:45 am
by Invisibility
i still want a vax lynch but nonny might actually be okay
RCE thing is nai i think? it doesnt really read i accidentally spilled hidden information
Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2018 7:46 pm
by Aeronaut
yo people, I'm here. No new computer, but I have access to some of our library ones during the week. Prob catching up tomorrow.