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In post 446, Carcalilly wrote:Tchill you're honestly worrying me right now

I don't think I am because I strongly feel that you are scum.

Why no mention of killing wilky? I asked about that too.

Are you OK with town deciding who you should shoot?

In post 428, nonny wrote:Rundo I think you are reading my tone or motivation wrong(or I’m wording it wrong). I understand why the request for votes, was more curious about Gamma’s personal motivation and if his goal was met. Which with his latest post adds up.

Well if that was your goal, then you probably should've been more upfront about it. I thought the answer he gave was fairly obvious -- what kind of responses were you expecting from this? Still waiting for the rest of your reply.

In post 431, Tchill13 wrote:This is the obvious place to move. Carca acted too shady earlier, will always be scum read now.

We need to kill one of the lurkers if carca is indeed town.

This takes away 2 potential mislynches for scum if both are town. If carca is scum, which I'm assuming, then that's even better.

Carca doesn't count as a "taking away a potential mislynch" if we're literally just going to lynch her. What's even the point of taking away "potential mislynches for scum"? Wouldn't it be better to just let scum jump on these easy mislynches and rat them out with VCA?

In post 434, Tchill13 wrote:And before people start saying "we should be trying to lynch scum"

That's what I'm trying to do. With every lynch you should weigh every outcome from an objective perspective. What happens if they're scum? Always good news. What happens if they're town? This is important too. Because not every lynch is scum. So you need to be able to weigh the risk/reward of a lynch if you're not almost certain it'll be a scum flip.

I mean, you didn't evaluate "risk/reward" more than "oh, this person's lurking, that seems like a good lynch/veng-kill". Like, sure, I can see the motive behind saving someone who'd be valuable as town for later if you think they're only slightly scummy, but really it's more important to emphasize scum equity over getting rid of people whom you deem useless to town without even considering their alignment.

In post 440, Tchill13 wrote:Fa's hesitance to control her shot makes me worry about him.

What's the point of this? He clearly explained why he didn't think town should control Carca's shot. You could've engaged with him and talked through your thought process, but instead you decided to completely ignore his questions and throw this useless shade at him.


Lynching Carca because she's "likely to be scum" is actually terrible. Like 90% of why people are scum-reading her was because of the weird anti-town posts she made earlier, and no one scum-reading her is even bothering to reconsider her anti-town actions in light of her claiming a role where she'd be much more content to be lynched than normal, or whether softing and fake-claiming a role that would guarantee her lynch in Lylo would even make sense from scum. Lynching Carca for the veng-kill also seems pretty bad -- if Carca's lynched today, flips vengeful, and the veng-kill misses, then we're at Mylo tomorrow with even numbers, and I'm not willing to take that risk just to lynch someone I'm fairly confident is town. Most players seem on board with making wilky the veng-kill -- I say it's better to just lynch him today and leave Carca for later.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: wilky

Wilky, popo and Dave should be the options.

Reundo threw shade at me that whole post then voted someone else lol.

Pipo is una

In post 453, Tchill13 wrote:Reundo threw shade at me that whole post then voted someone else lol.

What's your point here? Is voting you a requirement for "throwing shade at you"? I can point out things I don't like from players without automatically placing them as my #1 pick for scum. There's other players I'd much rather see lynched today that are also much more likely to actually be lynched today.

In post 449, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 446, Carcalilly wrote:Tchill you're honestly worrying me right now

Gfdi I wanna refit that meme from mountainish mafia but idk where the original is from so idk how to fix up the text box

In post 450, Tchill13 wrote:

In post 446, Carcalilly wrote:Tchill you're honestly worrying me right now

I don't think I am because I strongly feel that you are scum.

Why no mention of killing wilky? I asked about that too.

Are you OK with town deciding who you should shoot?

I'm not opposed to wilky but whatever you guys think

And yes, I'd rather they all get to a consensus, because I don't trust myself to make a good shot lmao

If you're going to tunnel me I might as well be a real vengeful and shoot you

I’m down for shooting FA/Wilky, Carca.

Question, for your vengeful do the people have to be on your wagon, though? Because if so, that kinda makes this pointless.

Tchill, what do you think of FA? They only have thirteen posts, so they have been mostly lurking this game. How does that affect your opinion of him? You said you liked some of his posts in 306 and didn't understand why people were voting him in 396. You've also stated he worries you in 440. Would you describe your overall read of him as a townread or scumread? If Carca is lynched, would you be okay with him being killed?

Flavor Leaf, I think vengeful townies can kill anyone, not just people on their wagon.

In post 447, Completly Trustworthy wrote:FA, you didn't answer my question.
UNVOTE: UnaBombaH

My read on you has not changed a whole lot. You are null. You are not an option today considering your claim and no real reason to doubt it.

Fa, why did you never take your vote off me then? Can you tell me who you scumread throughout day 1 and why you didn't vote them?

On second thought, I don't really think that lynching Carca is a good decision. There are probably 8 townies and 3 mafia assuming a 10:3 setup. Lynching Carca creates a scenario where killing a townie results in mylo if the night kill succeeds. There will probably be seven townies and 3 mafia if Carca is lynched, so the risk of that scenario is 70%. Its a better move for everyone to say who they would prefer Carca to vengekill and then to lynch whoever is suspected the most.

I would want either Nonny or FA to be killed if Carca were lynched.

In post 452, Tchill13 wrote:Wilky, popo and Dave should be the options.

Did I townbin you too early after all?

wilky or dave should be shot.

In post 460, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Tchill, what do you think of FA? They only have thirteen posts, so they have been mostly lurking this game. How does that affect your opinion of him? You said you liked some of his posts in 306 and didn't understand why people were voting him in 396. You've also stated he worries you in 440. Would you describe your overall read of him as a townread or scumread? If Carca is lynched, would you be okay with him being killed?

well i think he's staying in the middle. he'd be an ok kill but not my pick. If he continues to lurk then sure.

The yard sale yesterday earned us a little money, but I got basically nothing else done which spilled over into a busy day today.

In post 453, Tchill13 wrote:Reundo threw shade at me that whole post then voted someone else lol.

So what do you actually think about it?

In post 434, Tchill13 wrote: <snip> I hate slow games with tons of lurkers. I'll stir the pot if need be.

TBH I have to agree with this, and I know I'm part of the problem due to work last week. I don't like to replace out merely for activity reasons, especially because it's a crapshoot on whether you'll get someone else worse.

In post 232, nonny wrote:

In post 231, Flavor Leaf wrote:

In post 229, Flavor Leaf wrote:Not gonna lie, I’m pretty pissed about that night kill.

But it makes sense.

Which is why this next part is gonna be fun.

I’m an odd night watcher. 2 people targeted Profii last night.

I am disappoint. Very disappointed.

You don’t have to say names but do you know which two?

This could be scum trying to check whether it's safe to lie or not.

In post 455, Reundo wrote:

In post 453, Tchill13 wrote:Reundo threw shade at me that whole post then voted someone else lol.

What's your point here? Is voting you a requirement for "throwing shade at you"? I can point out things I don't like from players without automatically placing them as my #1 pick for scum. There's other players I'd much rather see lynched today that are also much more likely to actually be lynched today.

Yes but do you have an actual reason for your vote? More to the point, you say other players but it's not clear who they are.