That is why we should have waited for Volxen to defend himself...
(I admittedly wanted him sorted anyway due to TW’s request anyway).
No more quicklynching now, agreed?
I’m now gonna continue looking at my town read of Eragon.
Town-Eragon wins us the game IMO.
Did I read the thread wrong or did you just hammer him?
I think that labrat is townier than eragon.
waht d0 y0u think ab0ut my read 0n erag0n?
and seri0usIy, pIease, if y0u have s0me free time t0 spare, I'd be reaIIy gIad if I c0uId read s0me0ne's case 0n Keyser
It d0esn't reaIIy have t0 be y0urs, but y0u've been TRing him nearIy since the beginning, s0 it w0uId be just fitting
I kn0w I'm usuaIIy way t00 stubb0rn t0 just agree, s0 if y0u think that y0u d0n't want t0 waste y0ur time 0n it because I w0n't Iisten anyways, it's stiII 0k
but if n0t, Id be reaIIy gratefuI f0r that
thanks
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:29 am
by Ausuka
i'm sort of tight on free time?? since we have like tests coming up and i have to revise and i always take absolutely ages to write long posts and keyser has like a super gigantic ISO. but i'll do my best at least.
That is why we should have waited for Volxen to defend himself...
(I admittedly wanted him sorted anyway due to TW’s request anyway).
No more quicklynching now, agreed?
I’m now gonna continue looking at my town read of Eragon.
Town-Eragon wins us the game IMO.
Did I read the thread wrong or did you just hammer him?
I think that labrat is townier than eragon.
LabRat was non stop asking for Volxen’s quicklynch and to end the game.
After your quick vote, I gave LabRat what she wanted.
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:32 am
by LabRat01
In post 2405, Ausuka wrote:i'm sort of tight on free time?? since we have like tests coming up and i have to revise and i always take absolutely ages to write long posts and keyser has like a super gigantic ISO. but i'll do my best at least.
n0, it's 0k, I'II have t0 d0 it f0r myseIf anyways, s0 d0n't w0rry ab0ut it
That is why we should have waited for Volxen to defend himself...
(I admittedly wanted him sorted anyway due to TW’s request anyway).
No more quicklynching now, agreed?
I’m now gonna continue looking at my town read of Eragon.
Town-Eragon wins us the game IMO.
Did I read the thread wrong or did you just hammer him?
I think that labrat is townier than eragon.
LabRat was non stop asking for Volxen’s quicklynch and to end the game.
After your quick vote, I gave LabRat what she wanted.
s0rry
Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:36 am
by LabRat01
In post 2405, Ausuka wrote:i'm sort of tight on free time?? since we have like tests coming up and i have to revise and i always take absolutely ages to write long posts and keyser has like a super gigantic ISO. but i'll do my best at least.
ugh, but I'd be reaIIy gIad if y0u c0mmented 0n my case 0n erag0n
it w0n't take that much time and it's sth that actuaIIy matters m0re t0 me rn than the read 0n Keyser
s0 thx
Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2018 11:08 pm
by Keyser Söze
We can talk about (or go through) Eragon’s ISO:
First chapter:
- his town read on Creature
- his initial scum lean/suspicion on DrJ
- his one vs one with Relly
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 11:33 am
by Ausuka
In post 2331, LabRat01 wrote:tbh agree with that, that's p much a I0ck-t0wn read f0r me
if y0u want fresh stuff, just I00k at Erag0n's read pr0gressi0n in the Iast 2 pages and the way he answered my requests t0 quick-Iynch v0Ixen
At first he said that he thinks v0Ix is the m0st IikeIy 0ne t0 fIip scum and he d0esn't mind v0ting him, yet he didn't v0te and just f0cused 0n finding aII 0f th0se weak and undependabIe interacti0ns in Irre's IS0
then Iater 0n, when I enc0uraged him t0 v0te again, he refused, "because he wanted t0 anaIyze stuff f0r a bit I0nger", which feIt Iike he Iegit did intend t0 get s0me inf0 0ut 0f what he was d0ing
I find it rather unIikeIy that he'd be s0 set 0n g0ing thr0ugh aII 0f th0se p0sts when:
1- m0st 0f them were 0bvi0usIy undependabIe and REAIIY easy t0 fake, s0 unIess he'd suddenIy start finding reaIIy imp0rtant interacti0ns, his wh0Ie eff0rt w0uId m0st pr0b g0 t0 waste
2- IiteraIIy every0ne is TRing him rn and by 0ffering t0 quickIynch v0Ix rn, I was basicaIIy giving scum!erag0n an 0pp0rtunity t0 get quickIynched t0 heaven with0ut having t0 d0 much
3- Era v0ting v0Ix after I asked him t0 d0 it w0uId be 0k with his reads and if v0Ix fIipped t0wn, the wh0Ie bIame w0uId pr0b g0 0n me anyways
4- Erag0n said that he's busy and trying t0 retire fr0m FM, s0 he w0uIdn't even need t0 d0 anything s0 unrewarding/weak and time-c0nsuming f0r pe0pIe t0 keep TRing him. He w0uId be perfectIy fine with just writing sh0rt reads, faking s0me pushes and then pretending that he has t0 d0 0ther stuff and pe0pIe w0uId stiII have m0st IikeIy TR him
Erag0n being s0 set 0n I00king thr0ugh the scums' IS0s and anaIyzing abs0IuteIy everything feeIs very t0wn-m0tivated
In post 2292, LabRat01 wrote:Hi Erag0n, wanna wag0n v0Ix with me? I can thr0w in s0me memes as a c0mpensati0n
im not against it
Ego-wise i want Volxen to flip town and you to be the scum because that means i was only hard-wrong on one read this game
Spoiler:
legit-wise i feel you are the towniest of the bunch, and feel natural/solve-y. i dont know your skill level, due to being an alt, but i legit dont think that matters? It would have to be hella god-tier to post what you have done as scum(From my point of view) and i just dont vibe it,
volxen, i thought they were towny D1. But i also recognized that there was possibility of them being scum.
Irrel's quick meta-read thing doesn't
really
feel like something scum does, at least what im used to
but i also remember irrel saying they love to WK their buddies
Ausuka's just kind of... there?
i do like their boldness, but scum can easily be bold.
If i had to say the most likely to flip scum reasonably, is ausuka.
if i had to say who i want to flip scum the most, its you(labrat)
if i had to say who i feel flips scum the most, volxen or ausuka.
basically, i feel lynching ausuka/volxen ends the game, and if it doesnt, i guess you just played a hell of a game.
and c'm0n, just I00k at this sad face
Iike, I d0n't kn0w if I can even expIain it pr0erIy, but everything he did rn makes s0 much sense c0ming fr0m t0wn p0v im0
This is what you're talking about right Lab? I don't see why Eragon couldn't just have done it to look town; I wouldn't say his victory is literally a guarantee. And many people don't, like, think about everything they do as scum, they just try and emulate their towngame as much as possible until they win; Eragon might just have done that because that's what he would always do as town and he plays scum like he's playing town.
my keyb0ard is br0ken, s0 in a few days it'd be 0bvi0us anyways ┐(￣ヘ￣)┌
BAHAHAHHA I KNEW IT.
I just had that feel.
Yea ok I think lab is town, pretty confident
Which makes me pretty confident Ausuka is the last scum by PoE
Keyser/Lab is actually a kinda hard choice, I’d
probably
choose keyser, but both of them see like they are very towny.
Ausuka I’ve gotten some pings, but also they haven’t done that much really.
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:04 pm
by Eragon
In post 2384, LabRat01 wrote:wait, I have t0 ping manatee that there was a fIip
he d0esn't visit the site 0ften s0 it c0uId take ages if we just wait f0r him n0rmaIIy
Welcome to my life
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 12:05 pm
by Eragon
In post 2391, LabRat01 wrote:I'm reaIIy s0rry, I was s0 incredibIy c0nfident taht y0u'd fIip scum
I know I really shouldn’t be townreading this, but I am
That is why we should have waited for Volxen to defend himself...
(I admittedly wanted him sorted anyway due to TW’s request anyway).
No more quicklynching now, agreed?
I’m now gonna continue looking at my town read of Eragon.
Town-Eragon wins us the game IMO.
Did I read the thread wrong or did you just hammer him?
I think that labrat is townier than eragon.
LabRat was non stop asking for Volxen’s quicklynch and to end the game.
After your quick vote, I gave LabRat what she wanted.
This is another thing I want to TR Lab for, why would they hard push a town to get quickhammered when it puts considerable suspicion on them and it’s nist not worth it for scum.
If they wanted the game over and they weren’t gonna win, they would probs just concede
Posted: Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:26 pm
by Keyser Söze
Yes, the WIFOM route on LabRat is in her favour.
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:20 pm
by LabRat01
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
I 0versIept and my sister’s d0g ate my p0sts, it was n0t my fauIt xd
h0w the heck did I n0t get pr0dded
Anyways, I needed that break :/
games with0ut night phases are t0ugh
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:21 pm
by LabRat01
FrankIy, I d0n’t have much time t0day and I have t0 get up earIy t0m0rr0w, s0 I’II Ieave the time-c0nsuming stuff f0r t0m0rr0w after cIasses
It sh0uId be way better f0r me than t0day
It’s a shitty thing t0 d0 and I’m aware 0f it, but I’II be m0stIy pr0dging t0day
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:22 pm
by LabRat01
And tbh I d0n’t even kn0w what t0 start with anyways
Ima0, I was acting s0 high and mighty when it came t0 yeIIing at pe0pIe Iast phase, but n0w I’m the 0ne running away fr0m everything
It’s kinda pathetic
In post 1521, LabRat01 wrote:I’m not going to use that as an argument, but actually, the fact that you said “he should be getting TRs from TRing creat” already makes it a valid scum motivation.
But that’s more of a fun fact than anything
(
Thinking further on this today, when I looked at Eragon's D1 ISO - in my opinion, the nature of Eragon's town read of Creature and subsequent actions in D1 demonstrate he was not interested in town cred / winning town points
)
That’s not sth I’d personally like to rely on tbh.
The read felt ok to me, because it fit how I remembered Eragon get his reads normally, but I don’t think it should be indicative in either way. Even if he’s scum, I don’t think it would be that difficult for him to enter the game with making a honest read on a townie.
If he didn’t read the thread and he was asked to spontaneously read someone, the read would be 9/10 times a honest one regardless of alignment. I wouldn’t expect him to blatantly lie about that read even as scum, because without the knowledge of what happened on the thread, he’d have to base the read on his own “standard” scum-hunting ideas anyways.
That’s not a reason to push him imo, but I’m not gonna TR him for it either.
The SRs he got from that are a bit more interesting imo. I still kind of think that it would be weird for so many people to miss or misread eragon’s explanations at the same time (don’t remember who pushed him rn, but that might be a good way to start off later).
Tbh that’s the 0nIy thing that I reaIIy disagree with
I stiII think his read 0n DrJ is m0re IikeIy t0 c0me fr0m t0wn than scum.
Reas0ning same as bef0re
And the 0nIy thing I remember ab0ut the 1 vs 1 with irre was that it was started by Irre, then erag0n freaked 0ut, then irre freaked 0ut and in the end aII 0f it I00ked intense, but rather shaII0w/unimpressive fr0m b0th sides
Erag0n is fuIIy capabIe 0f hard-bussing, but tbh idk
If he reaIIy is scum here, his interacti0ns with his teammates w0uId be nearIy identicaI t0 his interacti0ns in the previ0us purgat0ry game [the scum-team hard-bussed each 0ther. They w0n, s0 I guess it paid 0ff,,,)
I think it’s rather safe t0 assume that scum!erag0n w0uId be reIying 0n his previ0us game experience in here
And again, if s0, I think his c0nfusi0n and Iack 0f presence in the 1-st heaven phase w0uId be weird c0ming f0rm scum
he:
1- Had experience
2- pIanned t0 pIay in the exact same way anyways
s0 being I0w-key after that enthusiastic start sh0uId be m0re t0wn-indicative f0r him im0 :/
But tbh I stiII want t0 re-read that
I’m g0ing 0ff my mem0ry here and it’s,,, ugh,,, n0t abs0IuteIy f00Ipr00f, s0 d0n’t take my w0rd f0r it
Posted: Tue Dec 11, 2018 1:32 pm
by LabRat01
In post 2411, Ausuka wrote:
This is what you're talking about right Lab? I don't see why Eragon couldn't just have done it to look town; I wouldn't say his victory is literally a guarantee. And many people don't, like, think about everything they do as scum, they just try and emulate their towngame as much as possible until they win; Eragon might just have done that because that's what he would always do as town and he plays scum like he's playing town.
Uhh, n0t 0nIy :[
I had m0re p0sts ab0ut it, but I guess I’II I00k f0r them Iater
IabRat01 wrote:
tbh, f0r me it is: as I0ng as erag0n is t0wn and TW thinks I'm m0re t0wnie than y0u
but that's unIikeIy t0 happen
I reaIIy want t0 say that the Iast scum is ausuka, but tbh I d0n't even kn0w
I feeI Iike I'm d0ing sth extremeIy wr0ng
Do you think keyser is scum?
N0t reaaaIIy? xd
But I’m having a hard time getting int0 his head
There were a I0t 0f stuff d1 and d2, which I SR previ0usIy, but I just reaIIy d0n’t kn0w what t0 think 0f them n0w
S0me 0f his interacti0ns, 0r m0tivati0ns in his reads/reacti0ns make abs0IuteIy n0 sense t0 me fr0m either p0v
Man, there’s a I0t 0f it :/ I d0n’t even kn0w what t0 start with
[-snip-
And tbh rn I d0n’t even have time f0r that :/ s0rry]
Idk, I’II be trying t0 get a better read 0n him anyways, but if y0u want me t0 eIab0rate 0n it, then teII me
I guess the way DrJ sheeped him d2 sh0uId be m0re indicative 0f T0wn!keyser, than scum!keyser, and the wh0Ie change fr0m "AtEing at E0D" t0 "pushing a teammate t0 heaven" w0uId be reaIIy baIIsy f0r scum t0 d0, but ugh
trying t0 determine h0w unIikeIy w0uId he be t0 d0 that as scum makes my brain turn int0 a d0nut
Iike, I have abs0IuteIy n0 idea what t0 expect fr0m him and h0w t0 determine his m0tivati0n, which adds a s0Iid Iayer 0f paran0ia when trying t0 read int0 his p0sts/interacti0ns
idk
It’s a t0wn read, but a reaIIy, reaIIy, reaIIy weird 0ne
I d0n’t even kn0w h0w t0 describe it tbh