Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[Krazy]

Votecount 1.19

Performer(6)

~ Mitillos(37), Nauci(151), Not_Mafia(11), the worst(271), Mewtaph(18), Irrelephant11(117)

Mewtaph(2)

~ skitter30(116), Varsoon(131)

Kokichi Oma(2)

~ Shoshin(157), AlmostNancy(346)

Xtoxm(1)

~ Performer(54)

Creature(1)

~ Creature(114)


Not Voting (3): Keyser Söze(78), Xtoxm(56), Kokichi Oma(34)

With 15 alive it takes 8 to lynch.

Day 1 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-13 17:15:09)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

[Performer]

I love starcraft..anyone wanna tell me anything I should know?

Irrel claimed PGO, Mitil said he's informed that that there's no ninja iirc

[Performer]

I can give you a couple reasons NM's town. His opening post isn't how I expect him to enter the game as scum. He didn't quickhammer when given the opportunity, which is very towny for him unless Xtom's his partner. And he just felt much less awkwardly self-conscious than when he's scum.

I see what you're saying, but how many games have you played with nm? I probably played 10+ with him , with him as either alignment. He's done all sorts of entrances , voted all sorts of ways. He did the EXACT same thing by not voting someone as scum in Robocalypse, which tricked FL AND me into losing the game, committed a no kill shockingly, AND he did a similar thing by unvoting or not voting someone (I think it was FL).

Nm is absolutely on the table , with the posts he's been making.

[Performer]

Performer got quiet again

I think this is the 3rd? time I'm saying this but I was busy over the weekend, which is the case for most if not all weekends.

[Irrelephant11]

VOTE: kokichi

[Performer]

ellitell

A wot

Something that some players think they're super clever in doing to try to circumvent site rules, which becomes a headache to the moderator because it's flirting with violating or actually violating the site rule of speaking about ongoing games.

It's not clever, it's just rebellious and violates site rules....making it not fun for anyone when the player has to be warned or replaced.

[Performer]

It's like, I made a choice between pushing Performer, Kokichi/Saudade, Xtoxm and like, I may have made the wrong decision here. But if he's not posting here then he's not making the choice any easier and that's what worries me. If he's going to give this game a "bye" pass because he feels that it's already over, then what can I really do about that? At least I can do something with Performer, at least I can do something with Kokichi/Saudade. I could defo be wrong especially considering my reasons to townread Xtoxm are much better than Performer.

Maaaybe I should probably ditch my Performer vague condition that's not really worth much at all in reality considering he's doing the exact same thing as Xtoxm and I'm just choosing to be blind towards it.

I feel like this is a misrep about giving the game a "bye" pass . I said I was busy over the weekend, both you & nauci decided to vote me for it?

Except in nauci's case, it looked like she was at least sorting somewhat, when she voted me, then you, then me again.

But you just unvote, say I "gave up and that must be scum perf," and decided to vote me. If this isn't opportunistic, then I must be on Bizarro world.

[Performer]

joining Shoshin, worst, Vars, and irrel (all four being players he has claimed suspicions on),

I'm scummy because I'm here to lynch scum? You're saying my play is scummy because I didn't say L-1 - I dont always say L-1 for people. With Krazy's constant votecounts, anyone could've just followed up with reading the previous vc.

And that I was voting someone but I should not have because I was suspicious of others? I dont share the approach that if I vote A, I would jump off that wagon because I suspected or am suspecting others on the wagon . I keep it straight and just focus on finding scum and voting scum.

[Performer]

Mitillos(37), Nauci(151), Not_Mafia(11), the worst(271), Mewtaph(18), Irrelephant11(117)

I would say I am townreading mitil & irrel is null for me , on the wagon.
Honestly don't understand how tw or nauci are voting me - was it tone & poe ?

Almost Nancy, Keyser, & Mitil are my townreads .

[Kokichi Oma]

alright i finally have some time. who wants to have a conversation

[Kokichi Oma]

VOTE: kokichi

why are you voting me? iirc, you've played with me when I was scum and you were town. how does this game parallel that at all right now?

[Kokichi Oma]

In Heroes, Kokichi had no clue what was going on in that game and hadn’t been paying attention but despite that, he still nevertheless managed to get a couple of reads in. So, dunno about Performer, don’t really want to vote Mewtaph. Probably between Xtoxm and Kokichi rn but I’ll vote Performer to avoid a no lynch.

Well you're comparing a whole game to 1 real life day of me replacing in. Especially when I was busy. How come you aren't factoring in that I would have to catch up and read 60 pages or so? I'm guessing this is A50 and not Nancy, cause if it's Nancy I'm voting you right now and not changing.

[Mitillos]

@Performer: No, you are scummy because of your vote on Shoshin with an explanation that doesn't really follow (what with her being scummy for not voting Varsoon, and then again for voting Varsoon), for your OMGUS FoS streak, then for switching your vote without explaining what makes Xtoxm scummy and joining a wagon full of those you suspect (instead of voting one of them).

@Nauci: Not necessarily. Another person in scumchat could have offhand said "That's an engineer" or something. That's not indicative of Irrel-Perf. I try to concentrate on personal tells rather than associative ones early on. In any case, in itself the engineer thing is not that big a deal; absent everything else I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

[Kokichi Oma]

Kokichi was given tons of "just replaced in" room even with the impending deadline

Yes, one day is a ton of replace room, which was during sunday when I was busy. So tell me what exactly I was supposed to do over that time?

[Kokichi Oma]

Mitillos, since you're here. Is your read on me from my previous slot or me?

[Kokichi Oma]

You and Nauci are two people I really want to reengage with about Xtoxm after I talk with Mewtaph. I think sorting him is a lot more valuable than going through it in detail rn though

You’re open to criticically seeing our perspective on him, I hope? I dunno, I’m not really seeing how Mewtaph is scum here.

I’m also a bit concerned that Kokichi hasn’t commented on anyone’s alignment yet but maybe it’s because he literally hasn’t read anything in the game so far. He seems townie so far but if he doesn’t give any reads soon, I may be a little worried.

Also, you posted this, yet less than 6 hours later you vote me? Especially when I said in that time I was busy and hadn't been able to catch up yet. Why?

[Kokichi Oma]

Actually think AlmostNancy could be scum here. That post from Nancy doesn't really feel like her genuinely trying to read me. Yes, they've posted a bunch of links about me, but they wouldn't even need to do that, nor has she ever attempted to do that to read me ever. Especially since I had just replaced in. Also trying to read me, when I hadn't read anything and was just entering seems a bit weird.

[Kokichi Oma]

I still don't see the reason for the Performer wagon, even after looking through the iso. Inactivity?

[Keyser Söze]

Performer re-read

(Post #1 - #22):

Hey Irrelephant, want to policy lynch Varsoon?

but! He has probably more large theme experience than any of us!
And he hasnt even posted yet

I think on the surface this looks LAMISTy from Performer but if you read it out in your head, I think the tone is more playful. I don't think scum-Performer would serious-defend Varsoon here in RVS (regardless of Varsoon's alignment). Posts like these echo my meta defense of Performer.

It's like people are actively making it hard for me to keep up in this game...sigh

I like these soliloquy type posts.

I dont like the way shoshin voted skitter, later voted me, then when vars came back to talk about shosh, shes still on me while saying votes on vars is good (sounds like setting up) , soon after she flies straight from me onto scatman without addressing posts. Makes me think, "coasting mafia. "
And her confidence in scatman being scum and saying he's doing a pointless debate - the posts from vars dont look like pointless debate, it actually looks like shoshin is just writing vars off as scum.
VOTE: Shoshin

I do not understand Performer's vote here. There is a narrative Performer has painted about Shoshin which I don't believe but it looks Performer believes. It's also quite a ballsy play for scum-Performer to vote Soshin who was already gaining town leans/reads.

I actually have (old) playhistory with Creature, Performer,

that's so old and I was so (and probably still? lol) terrible

Also FoS on tw, I don’t even understand his vote on me .

Openly happy to OMGUS

Also FoS on

add irrel as well to FoS. In the game we were in, I don't remember him just naked voting like he did on me.

OMGUS again, this time on Relly.

Does Performer OMGUS as a defensive mechanism as scum or does Performer do this as town?

Performer is showing that he doesn't live by the conventional rulebook of how to react to a vote I think Performer as town or scum would have been concerned with Relly's naked vote.



Thoughts so far?

Would actually like Performer's thoughts too.

[Keyser Söze]

@Nauci: Not necessarily. Another person in scumchat could have offhand said "That's an engineer" or something. That's not indicative of Irrel-Perf. I try to concentrate on personal tells rather than associative ones early on. In any case, in itself the engineer thing is not that big a deal; absent everything else I wouldn't even give it a second thought.

Can you explain the "engineer" part - I think I missed this?

Is it regarding flavour and Relly's claim?

[Kokichi Oma]

I haven't played with performer too much, but he seems like the lynchbaity type of player. Like would 488 really come from scum? Wouldn't they be more cautious than to openly OMGUS like that? Seems like a natural reaction. If I didn't like someone's vote on me, I would say something similar. I think I actually just did with Nancy's vote. Do you think I'm OMGUSing, Keyser?

[Nancy Drew 39]

UNVOTE:

For now

[AlmostNancy]

UNVOTE:

For now

UNVOTE:

For now

[AlmostNancy]

I haven't played with performer too much, but he seems like the lynchbaity type of player. Like would 488 really come from scum? Wouldn't they be more cautious than to openly OMGUS like that? Seems like a natural reaction. If I didn't like someone's vote on me, I would say something similar. I think I actually just did with Nancy's vote. Do you think I'm OMGUSing, Keyser?

You are if you’re ignoring my posts about beetle juicing you. You said nothing to make me think you could be town until now and THM was A50, not me.

Do you seriously think I post these links as scum? Please tell me the scum motivation for doing that?

[Kokichi Oma]

Yeah, I wasn't sure which one. But, that makes sense. What's your read on me so far?