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Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:12 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3563, Wisdom wrote:singleton is also scum

but nobody listens
I’m not opposed to voting them.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:53 am
by Wisdom
why is gamma town

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:15 pm
by Flavor Leaf
Nancy, the Wisdom case is flawed.

He was following a guilty. Even if he thought it was a fake guilty, as town, he would have went there.

And Light’s scum, so...

Wisdom has zero reason to side with Xtoxm and I here after that Mastina wagon.

Him town reading the entirety of the neighborhood is not scum minded.

He was correct with Ausuka being off.

Wisdom’s not happening today.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:15 pm
by Flavor Leaf
And Wisdom’s been trying for Gamma since before I was even in this game.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:57 pm
by TheBrie
In post 3563, Wisdom wrote:singleton is also scum

but nobody listens
I tried town casing Single yesterday, but it was half depending on Ausuka being scum. They clearly weren't w/w. But Ausuka wasn't scum, and single's recent posts feel off.
In post 3565, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 3563, Wisdom wrote:singleton is also scum

but nobody listens
In post 1218, singletonking wrote:VOTE: Gamma Emerald
I think I'd lynch this over Varsoon. His posts today have been terrible: Most of them are about Theta, and even those that aren't are reactive.
Meanwhile Varsoon's play here is easy in the sense that it was easy to make.

So both Gamma and Varsoon are being terrible here and while I see both as scummy, I see Gamma as slightly more scummy. I also slightly townread Varsoon's entrance on reread.
Single and Gamma are never w/w here, so you’re wrong about at least one of them.
Agree. And it's the posts like that that made me think Single is town. They're hesitant, but feel genuine.


So, what am I saying? Is Single scum? I really don't know. And with lack of deadlines, I can't be bothered to push this day to go anywhere in a hurry.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:57 pm
by TheBrie
Yesterday, as in Day 3. Not as in the 30/31st of January.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:05 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
Okay, here’s where I’m at. I’m not sure on Gamma being scum but I am confident that town!Wisdom can correctly read Gamma, so Wisdom needs to be resolved and I think Single’s most recent play, has been uberscummy.


So, I think we lynch Single today and Single red flip, townspews Wisdom. I trust town!Wisdom Gamma read, so I think we should lynch Single today.

VOTE: Singletonic

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:21 pm
by Wisdom
or we just lynch gamma

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:23 pm
by Wisdom
like im way more confident on gamma than singleton

the last thing i need is a town singleton flip to he used as an excuse to not lynch gamma

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:28 pm
by Wisdom
Why is gamma town, nancy?

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:47 pm
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3583, Wisdom wrote:like im way more confident on gamma than singleton

the last thing i need is a town singleton flip to he used as an excuse to not lynch gamma
In post 3584, Wisdom wrote:Why is gamma town, nancy?
I’m more confident on Single being scum than Gamma.

Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:48 pm
by Wisdom
then you don't have a townread on gamma?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:06 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3586, Wisdom wrote:then you don't have a townread on gamma?
Purr hardtown reads her as did Wag, iirc. And no, I’m not convinced he’s scum but I think Single is obscum due to his most recent actions: Getting Xtoxm to L-2? I think, unvoting the asking you a question you already answered and then voting you before you could even respond. All of that, read super scummy to me but no, I’m not yet convinced on Gamma scum but I’m not 100% convinced on town!you but I don’t think you and Single are w/w so Single red flip, spews you probable town and once I feel confident about your alignment - one way or the other - it helps me to resolve Gamma.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:12 am
by Wisdom
im back in scum Nancy camp

i dont like her avoiding giving a clear stance on gamma, her reasoning for scumreading singleton is weak bs and looks like shes just trying to fuel my scumread there, and her "lets lynch singleton to resolve wisdom and gamma" feels like a way to save gamma and push me after single flips town

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:37 am
by Flavor Leaf
In post 3583, Wisdom wrote:like im way more confident on gamma than singleton

the last thing i need is a town singleton flip to he used as an excuse to not lynch gamma
This is where I’m at as well.

If Single greens, I would still want Gamma.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:39 am
by Flavor Leaf
Xtoxm-Wisdom-FL triangle needs to get broken up for scum. I think a Single green flip would have people going after Wisdom.

An Xtoxm green flip let’s them go after Light tomorrow if Light is town.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:43 am
by Wisdom
how is nancy in the hood, fl?

do you think she could be scum?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:51 am
by Flavor Leaf
She’s hard pushing Single over Gamma to help sort you.

It’s kinda scummy, but at the same time, Nancy’s been doing some crazy emotional manipulation stuff as scum if she is scum, and I don’t know if I believe that she does a lot of the stuff she’s been doing this entire game as scum. Honestly, if she is scum, after this game, she can’t ever use the “you should be able to read me” as an excuse again, because she’d have been proven to be able to manipulate with emotion, and I don’t think she throws that away here. I don’t know if that’s a good reason to town read her, but it’s where I’m at.

I kind of hope some investigative would hit her so I can be sure, but I don’t think she acts this way as scum. I think in her mind she just really thinks the best way to sort you is by going Singleton. I’ve never seen her scum game, however.

I feel like Gamma red flip clears you more than a singleton red flip, and a singleton green or red flip doesn’t mean a Wisdom red flip.

But a Gamma red flip would lock it in for me for Wisdom to be green.

I’m reading Wisdom as town anyways. He’d been going way out of his way if he were scum here for a lot of things.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:54 am
by Flavor Leaf
Also, she brought up not seeing Singleton/Gamma as S/S, which i disagree with.

Their dichotomy in regards to me feels like they’re taking both sides while reading me, and semi playing me.

By going xtoxm, it sets up Light as a mislynch if Light is town, and keeps me alive and in the middle of scum’s control to push Light, which is why I want Gamma over the others, mixed in with the reasons I stated earlier.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 12:59 am
by Flavor Leaf
Also, Gamma was hard pushing Theta for the claim based on mechanical reasons yet when Mastina came in and things went there side, he backed away, even though I had also flipped my read on that slot, as a i was one of Theta’s biggest defenders. I feel Gamma played me there.

Prior to me replacing in, Gamma and Varsoon was going at it, causing a lot of noise, but that wasn’t remembered as much as Varsoon-Sheep/PB because after Varsoon stayed they were replacing, Gamma hopped off the wagon. He also tamed me a bit by saying I was town.

That looks very political and more like he’s been trying to set himself up in specific political stances, while staying out of the direct heat.

Showing up to the party, finding the talking point, taking some pictures, but sneaking out early kinda deal.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:16 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3588, Wisdom wrote:im back in scum Nancy camp

i dont like her avoiding giving a clear stance on gamma, her reasoning for scumreading singleton is weak bs and looks like shes just trying to fuel my scumread there, and her "lets lynch singleton to resolve wisdom and gamma" feels like a way to save gamma and push me after single flips town
In post 3591, Wisdom wrote:how is nancy in the hood, fl?

do you think she could be scum?
Glad I didn’t trust you in that case. That’s the problem, I’m not convinced you aren’t scum here. Maybe I should vote you over Single?

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:16 am
by Nancy Drew 39
UNVOTE:

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:21 am
by Nancy Drew 39
In post 3592, Flavor Leaf wrote:She’s hard pushing Single over Gamma to help sort you.

It’s kinda scummy, but at the same time, Nancy’s been doing some crazy emotional manipulation stuff as scum if she is scum, and I don’t know if I believe that she does a lot of the stuff she’s been doing this entire game as scum. Honestly, if she is scum, after this game, she can’t ever use the “you should be able to read me” as an excuse again, because she’d have been proven to be able to manipulate with emotion, and I don’t think she throws that away here. I don’t know if that’s a good reason to town read her, but it’s where I’m at.

I kind of hope some investigative would hit her so I can be sure, but I don’t think she acts this way as scum. I think in her mind she just really thinks the best way to sort you is by going Singleton. I’ve never seen her scum game, however.

I feel like Gamma red flip clears you more than a singleton red flip, and a singleton green or red flip doesn’t mean a Wisdom red flip.

But a Gamma red flip would lock it in for me for Wisdom to be green.

I’m reading Wisdom as town anyways. He’d been going way out of his way if he were scum here for a lot of things.
That’s the problem for me, I don’t trust Wisdom in this game. \_0_/

And his continued flipflopping on me, just keeps reinforcing it. Town!Wisdom would recognize that is typical townsorting me in that post but he’s not for some reason and that legit concerns me.

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:24 am
by Wisdom
because it isnt

go ahead and vote me nancy, youre not getting me lynched anyway and it will only make me more confident im right

Posted: Fri Feb 01, 2019 1:25 am
by Nancy Drew 39
I invite anyone who is still not convinced I’m town yet, to find one single game, where I put that much effort into sorting anyone as scum. I know Wisdom is far too lazy but to anyone reading any of scumgames, this should be blatantly obvious.