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Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 1:31 pm
by Nero Cain
nice, I'll be conf town tomorrow.
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 6:49 pm
by Nev and Max
Our vote is switched to xtox.
Posted: Sun Mar 10, 2019 7:02 pm
by Jingle
X gave the only potential town answer I could think of. Now I have to weigh the potentials of live and dead. I think dead is still probably the better choice, but more thought is required and I'm exhausted.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:15 am
by Xtoxm
jingle gave the only potential answer that wouldnt get him shouted at
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:17 am
by Xtoxm
i'll let out my bad day anger at elsa instead
fuck off you disingenuous cunt
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:32 am
by Elsa Jay
Tell me more, Xtoxm. That's a fascinating view on the game. Could you describe more on your point of "disingenuous cunt" for me though? I'm not as smart as you, of course, so please humor my mortal desires to impersonate a god such as yourself.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 5:34 am
by Nero Cain
the PC police gonna getcha.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:21 am
by Jingle
If we're gonna have offensive words that I'm not allowed to say, can we at least agree to make them the words that aren't fun to say?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:22 am
by Jingle
In post 10028, Xtoxm wrote:jingle gave the only potential answer that wouldnt get him shouted at
Is it too late to change my response to:
nuh uh. ur scum
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:24 am
by Jingle
The more I think about it the more I think that even with the possibility that X is town lynching him is the right play. If he's town, scum probably doesn't have anything to contend with 3 cop checks left anyway.
X, can you weigh in on my NA plan?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:27 am
by Xtoxm
sure, run me through it
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:35 am
by Jingle
In post 10009, Jingle wrote:Is this referring to the plan last night when I thought Creat was still alive?
Cause last night's plan is that EJ and Una are masonizers tonight and we dictate their targets, meaning a presumable hard town result. N&M has a doctor shot left, so that's potentially 2 hard town results. I'm gonna be unprotected, so hopefully scum kills me because I'm unlynchable at this point. If I'm right and X flips scum that's 4 potential hard town results from masonizing, because only one scum remains.
My vague thought would be EJ on Nero and Una on [RCE]. Dave has >rand scum equity from role, but the fact that his role has potential use for us means we leave him alone for today, he investigates N&M.
Tomorrow, Dave if dave has a result on N&M it's a 1v1. Thanos is probably still town even if X is scum, but I think he has another shot so he should pick someone who isn't likely to die from his PoV to target. I'd pick one of the masonizer targets.
This means there's a town result or implication on every player but me. And if you want to lynch me at this point your name is Nero.
Should tie together Nero/EJ and Una/RCE. Dave doesn't get shown to be town at all, but there's a potential for a 50/50 with him and N&M. N&M probably gets killed because last protective if town.
If you flip town Thanos is conftown. If you don't he's theoretically a viable lynch, but I don't think he's likely scum anyway.
That puts scum (assuming you flip town because your input is useless if you flip scum) as {Nero EJ} {Una RCE} or two of {Dave, Me, Thanos, N&M} barring any useful results. I feel like me and thanos can be completely removed from the lynch pool.
I feel confident there isn't another blocking role outside of you regardless of your alignment.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:40 am
by Jingle
Oooh. A thought occurs.
No lynch today, X neighborizes a universal townread (Thanos?) Scum have a nightkill. If we get viable results from that plan, we pretty much instawin. If we don't, we hope for additional Neighborizes to go to EJ and Una and try to make a 3p chain, full confing NC/EJ/UNA/RCE/2OTHERS.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:52 am
by Xtoxm
{nero,rce} => 3/2 lylo solved
worst case scenario
2 successful neighborizes claimed
no result claimed
=> possible dave + x, {nero, EJ}, {una, rce}
thing is, theyve both had a long time to erase the weak, so mechanically ej+x and una+x would still be mechanical possibilities on a corroborated neighborize.
so assuming thanos town (obv)
and you town (because you asked me to)
i dont think the game is mechanically solved
p-ed: i dont think no lynch is possible in this setup? its plurality lynches
i agree if i make it to night the neighborize has more value than the rb
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:54 am
by Xtoxm
its a solid plan, and the main weakness is if ej or una have managed to erase something
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:55 am
by Xtoxm
also nm ascetic possibilty (or anyone dave is chosen to target)
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:57 am
by RCEnigma
Hmm x neighborizing Thanos is just to avoid a scum kill targeted there yes? Scum have to choose between one of the 4 being alignment tied. In that case one of the 4 remaining is left in limbo but one pairing still resolves.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:58 am
by RCEnigma
Tbh I've lost track of prizes claimed. Afaik all prizes have been as claimed. Eraser has been present the last 2 night or is it 3?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 9:59 am
by davesaz
How are the neighborizes helping the solve? Is there some assumption of modifiers being accurately reported, and the modifiers applying to acquired actions like that?
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:00 am
by Xtoxm
right, i forgot that only became available late on
ascetic is much more likely
im not up to date with whats been accounted for
last night 4x nieghbor accounted for
2 nights back was gamma+thanos, so that was clean
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:02 am
by RCEnigma
Una/ej both have weak modifiers. If they don't then ej/Una is the team. Una received weak from Profii and EJ received weak from Una.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:12 am
by Jingle
Una recieved weak from me.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:14 am
by Jingle
Also, AFAICR, dave is the only one who could have received an erase as yet.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:15 am
by Jingle
In post 10041, RCEnigma wrote:Hmm x neighborizing Thanos is just to avoid a scum kill targeted there yes?
Nope. If x isn't multitasking he can't neighborize and roleblock.
Posted: Mon Mar 11, 2019 10:17 am
by RCEnigma
Disregard then.