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Yeah Profii pushed scum. Why do you think they shot him? Because he was trying to signal them he was the traitor and not me but it backfired. Or maybe not since he knew he wouldn't die.

Remember he knew the scum team. Not the other way around.

Why doesn't Profii just send Elsa the stickyfruit then if he knows her to be scum. It would semi confirm him as traitor to the scumteam.

In post 10370, Auro wrote:

In post 10368, Nero Cain wrote:I'm not really getting your point.

Oh sorry, some random quotes I plussed earlier made their way in. I was just responding to you that scum pushing Elsa doesn't auto make him town.

ok sure, but what makes her scum over RCE?

What our you thoughts on a supposed town invest giving away a shot?

In post 10371, RCEnigma wrote:I expect to be the Lynch here regardless so it's on me to find the missing piece that expose scum. I'm sure dead chat is pointing out that it's something obvious but I don't think I have it in me to put it together. So for that I'm sorry.

Dang it RCE emotional manipulation makes me double down, not unvote. If you're town, keep trying. But I also went the "defeated town" route as scum once. Didnt work out for me either.

In post 10376, RCEnigma wrote:Why doesn't Profii just send Elsa the stickyfruit then if he knows her to be scum. It would semi confirm him as traitor to the scumteam.

Profii didn't send any scum the fruit tho, did he?

no, he sent fruit to TLK

I haven't given up I just acknowledge there isn't much more I can offer up. That am I'm still not convinced I can rule out Elsa as scum.

So I'm already in a hole playing against both of the hands that can pull me out of it.

In post 10377, Nero Cain wrote:ok sure, but what makes her scum over RCE?

What our you thoughts on a supposed town invest giving away a shot?

Wasn't he only a Vanilla invest? And he maybe wanted to give away the prize and the shot was an add-on. As scum he'd want to keep the shot, no?

Not sure what makes her scum rn. I need to evaluate if the pushes on Jay were genuine. I'm gonna take all my time tho, sorry

In post 10381, RCEnigma wrote:I haven't given up I just acknowledge there isn't much more I can offer up. That am I'm still not convinced I can rule out Elsa as scum.

So I'm already in a hole playing against both of the hands that can pull me out of it.

You can case them. I'm not sold on scum!you yet. You also know that as confirmed town, my voice carries weight and I can get town out of the other two to agree with me if there's anything substantial.

mo rush, you have like 7 days

Np, fwiw I think SS gaming around Elsa to try and shake his Lynch is the strongest scumpush against her.

Err the strongest evidence against scum!Elsa if you take wifom out of the equation.

In post 10375, Elsa Jay wrote:Yeah Profii pushed scum. Why do you think they shot him? Because he was trying to signal them he was the traitor and not me but it backfired. Or maybe not since he knew he wouldn't die.

You're saying he pushed scum exclusively so he'd get shot, confirming traitor him?

In that case, why aren't you suspicious of Nero?

In post 10385, RCEnigma wrote:Np, fwiw I think SS gaming around Elsa to try and shake his Lynch is the strongest scumpush against her.

I'll need more elaborate cases, thanks. I've been skimming ISOs in free time and I don't see much that'll help solve. The lack of public votes suck.

SS' push on Jay makes him Towny. SS asked for Jay to be lynched before himself; even if Jay flipped scum, SS would be the next Lynch since he claimed a traitor result on Jay.

In post 10381, RCEnigma wrote:I haven't given up I just acknowledge there isn't much more I can offer up. That am I'm still not convinced I can rule out Elsa as scum.

So I'm already in a hole playing against both of the hands that can pull me out of it.

Fine. Let's play a game. Auro, since you want this right, I'll make this even simpler.

UNVOTE:

RC, vote yourself. I won't hammer. That proves I'm not scum to you so you can fully debate me a case why Nero is scum instead.

Do this and townclear me and I'll listen to what you'll say on the matter. Sound fair?

Pedit: I mentioned the possibility of Xtoxm defending Nero, didn't I? I just don't have a confirmation of where he got multitask.

In post 2110, profii wrote:

In post 2108, Elsa Jay wrote:Hey TLK, do me a solid and list everyone's preferred vigi shot instead of a VC count next.

{Nero / S_S }

Lynch one, shoot t’other

@Jay

In post 10382, Auro wrote:Wasn't he only a Vanilla invest?

yes

In post 10382, Auro wrote:As scum he'd want to keep the shot, no?

depends if he has a useful ability or not.

Yes Nero, but giving away the shot is NAI I think.

One ping about Elsa is how he didn't place the penultimate vote on TLK; as if he knew Smart was going to bail on it. Jay, explain again your rationale for what you did?

I don't know why town wouldn't want another invest? He's saying that he's not useful without mods but I don't get why a vanilla check is not useful.

RCE I'll need you to talk in real time about stuff to potentially sort you correctly. I have to go to bed in a bit, but yeah.

In post 10394, Nero Cain wrote:I don't know why town wouldn't want another invest? He's saying that he's not useful without mods but I don't get why a vanilla check is not useful.

No one has incentive to lie about Vanilla

In post 10393, Auro wrote:One ping about Elsa is how he didn't place the penultimate vote on TLK; as if he knew Smart was going to bail on it. Jay, explain again your rationale for what you did?

Did you not read the fact Smart openly posted his "crumbs" that said he wouldnt have ever hammered anyway? I picked up on it and knew people wanted me dead at the time. He even specified I should be the second to last vote.

If that isn't openly talking about my assassination I don't know what is.

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=78060&start=6550

Doesn't look like scum theater. Or is it? Hmm.

In post 6559, RCEnigma wrote:And I would definitely Lynch either after Elsa hangs.

Oh, RC siding with Smart on lynching me first. Sweet. Actual evidence of collusion with them.

Good spot Auro.