I didn't think it would be quite this bad, I think it's faster than some of the other large games I've played at least. Besides I wanted to play anyway because Boon
I definitely didn't expect my reads to be this weak this far in, but I really didn't think about how damaging the lack of public votes is. Like I've said, I do think it will be better on future days.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 11:59 am
by Something_Smart
The other thing is, people have not been posting in a very accessible way. Most people have either been posting one-liners with no explanation at all or engaging in quote pyramids where the quotes are five times longer than the responses, which are a major pain in the ass to read.
I'd love to see some people summarize who they scumread most along with a 2-3 sentence explanation of why, with links to some posts that make them feel that way.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:01 pm
by Almost Chara
@The Last Knight:
I'll have you know we have not voted (or even considered voting) you ever during the course of this game. I had you down as my 2nd strongest TR and I've cited post #900 for it, and Chara agreed with most of my reads (Actually they didn't comment much on my TRs, but we discussed a lynch pool of 7 slots and they came back with 2 TR, 2 SRs & 3 Nulls from those specific 7, so I considered it an agreement we would lynch in 5 of them)
@Nero: I am not going to disclose my reads or our votes. You only get to know who we end up voting by EoD. I'll just tell you that you're not in my bottom 7 (i.e. not at all in our lynch pool).
~A50
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 12:03 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2177, Almost Chara wrote:I am not going to disclose my reads or our votes. You only get to know who we end up voting by EoD.
Hmm.
Do you have a reason for this beyond typical A50 mystification?
policy lynch the vengeful/supersaint claim then i guess
unless someone has a better idea
What if it’s true? The way he keeps on pushing this lolhammer thing, makes me think it’s real. I think if he was faking it, he would have backed down by now?
You also know that my strength early on is in forming strong townreads, so I find it very interesting you emphasizing that.
I have - your last reads list said you had no strong scum reads. I don't know anything about how you play except you post more than me as either alignment which is demoralising to say the least.
I’m “demoralizing” irrespective of alignment? Ouch, I’m wounded. LMFAO
We're down to the wire. Theta disappeared again. Sigh. I just wanted her to be useful.
I will give Theta 2 options. To vote TLK when she gets back as a safety net for everyone elsa here, or get lynched/shot at the discretion of the rest of the town.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 5:37 pm
by DrewVa
In post 2165, Nero Cain wrote:@Alzo
@Drew
@TLK
@Elsa
@Nev and Max
@Gamma
@Xtoxm
@a50
Who are your votes on?
I’m leaning to one of the emperors rn. I’m currently not liking them, CD or Profil.
We're down to the wire. Theta disappeared again. Sigh. I just wanted her to be useful.
I will give Theta 2 options. To vote TLK when she gets back as a safety net for everyone elsa here, or get lynched/shot at the discretion of the rest of the town.
policy lynch the vengeful/supersaint claim then i guess
unless someone has a better idea
I didn’t like this post, however. In this kind of setup, the odds favour a townie dying over scum. Why would you lynch a hardclaim TPR anyway? If TLK really is a supersaint, then it’s self-resolving anyhow.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:28 pm
by Nero Cain
b/c we get rid of two sketchy slots. I mean, not that I find TLK scummy but there are/were a
large
# of ppl scumreading him and his role can get rid of another. If I were an SS I'd be more than happy suiciding on someone I scumread and that's what he wants to do so...
Though I kinda don't see us being able to really coordinate this rn.
I'm not seeing the big fuss over ENG. I mean yeah, lurking and being useless are both heads scum game so it's certainly possible but your reaon for scum reading him isn't exactly correct. He's not really tunneling me, He questioned my town read and then when he was challenged he called me townish. So its more of a hedge than a tunnel...not that that makes him that much better. I think if you are deadset on deposing an emperor then EFN is maybe slightly scummier.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:42 pm
by Something_Smart
In post 2179, Almost Chara wrote:Do you have a reason for asking beyond typical S_S being overly silly?
~A50
I mean, it's an interesting strategy. I could think of several potential reasons why you might find it better to be secretive about your vote... but I could also see you doing it just because you feel like it. Hence why I asked.
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 6:55 pm
by DrewVa
In post 2187, Nero Cain wrote:b/c we get rid of two sketchy slots. I mean, not that I find TLK scummy but there are/were a
large
# of ppl scumreading him and his role can get rid of another. If I were an SS I'd be more than happy suiciding on someone I scumread and that's what he wants to do so...
Though I kinda don't see us being able to really coordinate this rn.
I'm not seeing the big fuss over ENG. I mean yeah, lurking and being useless are both heads scum game so it's certainly possible but your reaon for scum reading him isn't exactly correct. He's not really tunneling me, He questioned my town read and then when he was challenged he called me townish. So its more of a hedge than a tunnel...not that that makes him that much better. I think if you are deadset on deposing an emperor then EFN is maybe slightly scummier.
VOTE: Flippynips
DVa already voted in our confessional, so barring any better options. Alonzo has a pretty decent metacase.
You also know that my strength early on is in forming strong townreads, so I find it very interesting you emphasizing that.
I have - your last reads list said you had no strong scum reads. I don't know anything about how you play except you post more than me as either alignment which is demoralising to say the least.
I’m “demoralizing” irrespective of alignment? Ouch, I’m wounded. LMFAO
In post 1917, DrewVa wrote:Rn, Performer blatantly mischaracterizing our posts and implying he knows anything at all about how I play as scum, when he has never played with me as scum, is the scummiest thing I’ve read so far, this game.
Dude. I was one of the NRG reviewers for the scum game of yours with xwing. I followed that game closely.
Also, you and mcqueen saying I was buddying or acting weird with TLK, say what?? That was an off topic remark about another FM player in the bay area. Using a remark like that to put suspicion on someone, is actually scummy.
~ P
How tho? I’m not gonna lie I have no proof u were buddying, but the conversation in question felt like you two were gaining rapport with each other hidden behind being excited to both be from the Bay area. Buddying. That’s why i asked
In post 2042, mcqueen wrote:I agree with this. Your infatuation with lynching lurkers on day 1 is slightly bothersome.
I've yet to even vote for a lurker. (all my votes have been on RCE, Cheeky or Ram. Currently, I'm not voting anyone b/c I thought we were going to do the plan were we use TLK as a double lynch.) I'm just mature enough of a player to know that lurking is a good place for scum to hide out and of our lurkers, several of their scumgames/meta involve being a lurksack. Lurkers suck and I don't like them.
Why do I have to scum read active players?
I think Ram is just scum trying t make me look bad by claiming that I'm exclusively hunting lurkers. I also think that his "don't lynch in the lurkers!" means he has a buddy or two there.
Kinda obvious since Ram is active (and he’s ur scumread), but there’s always scummy active players, especially in a big game like this. Seems pretty weird of u to ask such a question tbh
Posted: Thu Dec 27, 2018 9:32 pm
by mcqueen
In post 2093, Alonzo wrote:I just want progress the game RN more than anything.
Here's some steamy Fresh my name is emperor flippynips and I lurk hard as scum meta
And this is even worse... DrewVa what the heck? You think this is good reasoning? I’ve got half a mind to scumread you for this... idc if Alonzo’s a tr of mine doesn’t mean his vote wasn’t stupid or I can’t be wrong.
I’ll wait on it a bit but ENG has altered the order of mine and Nero’s posts, to arrive at a false conclusion. Also, he accuses Nero for being “buthurt”, because he asked why was he scummy, which was hella weird.
Actually ur wrong. Nero mentioned Elsa was butthurt and ENG commented on that. ENG didnt call nero butthurt. I dont know kuch about ur post order and the false conclusion, i havent read pgs 62-82. But the unvote seems weird. Like u make a terrible vote agreeing with Alonzo then back off. Idk man.
