In post 2985, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oooh talk about your spicy McQueen read, Ramcius. I would be fine lynching in DrewVa/McQueen/SS today.
~ C
Again, you’re scumreading drew off something stupid thanos said. Yet I’m a viable lynch for defending him? Who else here is doing wagon analysis btw? Yet you pick me out of 20 to pick on for it
Something_smart I’m still unsure of, but I’ve leantowned him most of the game
You're becoming scummier and scummier as you complain about my push on you. It's not about you not doing wagon analysis it's about the mismatch in your intent - only bothering to analyse half a wagon. It wouldnt have caught my attention if you'd done none at all.
You're not listening to why I said I personally scunread DrewVa and now you're saying you're flustered (why the hell are you?) and attempting to discredit me via misrep. You're quickly heading to my first lock-scum read.
If there is a bullet point,
that means they have voted
to end day.
Don't tell me how my reads work Mary Poppins.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:31 am
by Cheeky Dancer
Ram is obv town because he clearly doesn't care about dying - the only world where it would make sense for him to vote a potential Saint as scum is to be scum with him and think the wagon isn't going through. There's probably value in looking back at who wanted TLK dead until their claim.
~ C
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:37 am
by RCEnigma
In post 3003, Cheeky Dancer wrote:Ram is obv town because he clearly doesn't care about dying - the only world where it would make sense for him to vote a potential Saint as scum is to be scum with him and think the wagon isn't going through. There's probably value in looking back at who wanted TLK dead until their claim.
~ C
This is what I was saying. Beyond that though, all of his reads are based on omgus and all hinge on Gamma being scum. I think he's linking things that may or may not be there to support his read in a way that's sloppy but not slimy, if that makes sense.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:39 am
by Cheeky Dancer
Yeah I agree will need to relook at gamma but I remember thinking he's town here.
~ C
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:41 am
by Thanos
I agree with cheeky dancer's reads/posts, but there might be a chance ram is conf scum in future. Just saying.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:45 am
by Cheeky Dancer
Yeah I'm not ruling BEF's theory out in future, just don't think we should lynch based on that today.
~ C
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:45 am
by RCEnigma
Possibly, is the factional ability from scum one shot or can they nominate a day rep as they see fit?
Lockscum is a very serious claim. It really shouldn't be based on a bunch of little things, to the point where you're "almost there". A bunch of little things might increase the chance someone is scum a lot, but in order to lockscum someone you need something that you literally cannot see as coming from town. Either you have something like that or you don't. If you're describing someone as close to lockscum, you're probably not using the term right, and you're using it in a way that's probably going to make you resistant to changing your mind.
Sure, you can characterize your reads however you like. But I don't think it's a good idea to characterize that read like that.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:50 am
by davesaz
At bottom of 113.
First why all the speculation that winning BOONus rounds has anything to do with next day reps, and then furthermore why does the day rep who didn't win a BOONus round need to be the scum of the group if there is one?
If Ram is town, someone pushing Ram as the scum dayrep (if there is one) is trying to deflect suspicion from the actual scum among the dayreps, if any.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:51 am
by Elsa Jay
Maybe if I type in blue text, I'll be recognized more...
Maybe if I type in blue text, I'll be recognized more...
VOTE: Elsa
is that enough recognition?
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:07 am
by CheekyTeeky
In post 3010, davesaz wrote:If Ram is town, someone pushing Ram as the scum dayrep (if there is one) is trying to deflect suspicion from the actual scum among the dayreps, if any.
This is a good point and why I want to wait to see if it's misdirection or legit as the next phases should clear it up.
First why all the speculation that winning BOONus rounds has anything to do with next day reps, and then furthermore why does the day rep who didn't win a BOONus round need to be the scum of the group if there is one?
If Ram is town, someone pushing Ram as the scum dayrep (if there is one) is trying to deflect suspicion from the actual scum among the dayreps, if any.
It's all an IF kind of situation. Because IF day reps are chosen based on boonus round winners then one of the winners was booted as a rep by a scum nomination (Ram in this case).
That doesn't clear any of the other day reps btw. Any of them could be scum. No one was told the method day reps would be chosen therefore scum wouldn't know who day reps would be before making a nomination.
In post 2987, Elsa Jay wrote:Has literally nobody asked why AC was killed? We kinda glossed over that.
I take it you want to lynch theta
Don't put words in my mouth. I just want to talk about apart of the game I can contribute too. I can't do that with this Boon game since I wasnt in any of them. I also can't do anything with the dayrep thing either. So NK and VC analysis is all I got left.
So you could start with “I see AC was killed and I think it means ______”
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:03 pm
by davesaz
Kinda interested to know what Elsa Jay thinks was ignored.
Also that color is very hard to read.
Finally caught up to the posts quoting the "more apparent" thing from Boon. OK, maybe there is a connection. Or maybe there isn't. I'm on record in countless games as being against making assumptions like that.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:08 pm
by davesaz
I can rule out "oldest vote" as not likely to be the method of choosing day reps. Thought that might be another plausible method given the age of my vote and Karm's. But there were several older D1 votes.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:22 pm
by RCEnigma
I don't think the method would have anything to do with confessional threads as there isn't anything that can be apparent from that.
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:23 pm
by Nev and Max
Speaking of karm, slot has 1 post today and is a vote on RCE, thoughts on that?
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:37 pm
by Cheeky Dancer
I'm fine not lynching anyone on the TLK wagon today.
The Last Knight [3]: - Karmeleon [12/19, 08:19], Emperors New Groove [12/24, 08:34], Ramcius [12/24, 11:45]
In post 2985, CheekyTeeky wrote:Oooh talk about your spicy McQueen read, Ramcius. I would be fine lynching in DrewVa/McQueen/SS today.
~ C
Again, you’re scumreading drew off something stupid thanos said. Yet I’m a viable lynch for defending him? Who else here is doing wagon analysis btw? Yet you pick me out of 20 to pick on for it
Something_smart I’m still unsure of, but I’ve leantowned him most of the game
You're becoming scummier and scummier as you complain about my push on you. It's not about you not doing wagon analysis it's about the mismatch in your intent - only bothering to analyse half a wagon. It wouldnt have caught my attention if you'd done none at all.
You're not listening to why I said I personally scunread DrewVa and now you're saying you're flustered (why the hell are you?) and attempting to discredit me via misrep. You're quickly heading to my first lock-scum read.
Didnt Analyze half the wagon even though i explained why. You were already a townread and the flip didnt change that, only your horrible push on me and drewva is. Alonzo needed to be conftowned because in my last game with him i townread him most of the way and he was svum. His play is different here and lynching (as the lead on the wagon) efn makes him town. Drewva i was pointing out as i was still unsure
Xtoxm was still null. Why do i need to say that explicitly? I’m sorry if that bothers u so much, but I’m still sorting him. One of his more recent posts sparked me as town.
I can’t make good connections off these small wagons alone, so i pointed out what needed to be said. If someone had pushed alonzo, theyd have gotten my vote. Drew was a hot topic those few hours after the stary of d2 and i made sure to let people know i was unsure myself, with a scumlean.
Why do u keep hammering this home? Im misrepping u because its clear that if u cant even read the thread properly and understand the mechanics, ur push has no credible ground to stand on.